Omega7
Alien
- Apr 10, 2019
- 37
I need to CTB (I know I will) but I'm completely frightened. Is anyone else crippled with fear? If not how I do overcome it?
VikingWinger
Lost soul
- Mar 26, 2019
- 123
It's hard to answer as I am also still alive. First, I think one must realize that there is a matter of fear involved for the majority of suicidal people and those who have succeeded. I believe that if the will to die is strong enough, and the method feels right, fear will be conquered. But fear will be there for most of us. Alcohol also helps.
Escaper Boy
累坏了...
- Apr 11, 2019
- 245
Last night, I couldn't sleep peacefully due to overwhelming fear regarding my upcoming ctb. I put my playlist on the loop in order to at least "numb" my psyche. It didn't work.
I despised waking up again and again. I want to end it. But, the whole things are so scary, full of unknown variables I have no way of knowing.
I despised waking up again and again. I want to end it. But, the whole things are so scary, full of unknown variables I have no way of knowing.
everyone is afraid… Do you really need to kill yourself? I can't take the physical issues that's why I want out of here my life is compromised I don't want to live this way because that's no way to live… I hate to see people taking their lives if they have things that might be good happening in the future I would never ever consider suicide in my past....
GeorgeJL
Enlightened
- Mar 7, 2019
- 1,621
For me personally I have literally no fear of taking my life. The reason why is that I know that I will exhaust all my options, live the best life I can until I go, and I will wait as long as I can, and I will end my life with nembutal. The number one euthanasia drug in the world.
I am so nearing my end and am utterly petrified and saddened by this whole affair. I just kinda replied to your question in the thread "does anyone feel like they have no valid motives". I just started writing and it turned out I was replying to the wrong thread. Go figure.
omw/2/ctb
Nothing in his life became him like the leaving it
- Mar 29, 2019
- 53
GeorgeJL
Enlightened
- Mar 7, 2019
- 1,621
omw/2/ctb
Nothing in his life became him like the leaving it
- Mar 29, 2019
- 53
That was my sentiment exactly. Someone started a thread about fear, and you responded with what sounds like a paid plug...really?
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GeorgeJL
Enlightened
- Mar 7, 2019
- 1,621
I said really because everyone in the euthanasia community knows that Nembutal is king of euthanasia drugs. And I didn't even post a link.
omw/2/ctb
Nothing in his life became him like the leaving it
- Mar 29, 2019
- 53
That's just it. You have repeatedly plugged that drug (at least 7 times that I can see) and you keep using that phrase which is extremely imprecise, but sounds remarkably like a marketing slogan. Considering you're not actually here because you're contemplating suicide, it does seem a little invasive and disingenuous for you to be pushing substances on others that you have no intention of using yourself (or at least not this side of 2050!).
I've seen several N videos. All of them seem to be very carefully stage managed. The drug represents a monopoly held by A. He is not a philanthropist but a capitalist and it's pretty clear the videos I've seen were designed to be marketing materials. Despite the careful presentation, and doubtless careful selection of subjects, if you look closely it's obvious that the subjects react badly to the experience of ingestion and then show signs of distress at the end. Of course there are many other substances which are equally (or more) lethal, less unpleasant, far more readily available, and far less expensive. Calling it "king" seems designed only to serve its profitability and does no service to people in distress who need good factual information.
OK so now that you've gotten everyone's interest what are all of these other substances?
GeorgeJL
Enlightened
- Mar 7, 2019
- 1,621
Stop making of false things about me. For one I already have N in my refrigerator right now ready to use as insurance for my dignity. Secondly I recommend many other suicide methods too besides N. Like I mention quite frequently about using the cogen, inert gas, and sodium nitrite. Many people here including myself know and get the idea that N is king because Dr Philip Nitschke recommends it as the top euthanasia drug. Granted it's probably no perfect but it's the best we are going to get. For one there is no other option that is more peaceful without the toxic effect of something like CO has on rescue crew. So again I stand by what I said that N is king. If you think there is a better option then please I want to know. But you must provide a doctor that admits that it's better and more peaceful than N. I don't think you will find any such information. But I am willing to hear out what other option is better than N.
omw/2/ctb
Nothing in his life became him like the leaving it
- Mar 29, 2019
- 53
I'd appreciate if you could point out one false thing I said about you.
Also, can you reference any case where first responders were injured by a CO suicide?
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Memento Mori
shambling garbage
- Jan 24, 2019
- 573
omw/2/ctb
Nothing in his life became him like the leaving it
- Mar 29, 2019
- 53
Which you have repeatedly said you do not intend to use for another 30 to 50 YEARS (i.e. between 2050 and 2070)
You mentioned N seven times in a single post and said it's king twice, so, yeah, I guess I can see where you'd have a hard time understanding me thinking you're plugging a product.
And I'm sorry if I made it sound like N is the only thing you are pushing...to be fair, you also spend a lot of time pushing a particular psychedelic drug and a particular online drug supplier,
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Cubashii
One second in Valhalla Is all I really would want.
- Oct 22, 2018
- 144
Ive never experienced fear because everytime ive tried i was full of sadness and hate. They drowned out the fear completely. If you really want to ctb you will do it instantly without looking back. im not saying you dont but when you get to that complete breaking point fear is gone.
GeorgeJL
Enlightened
- Mar 7, 2019
- 1,621
I don't have to provide a link to people that died of carbon monoxide poising. I read it a long time ago and I am not going to waste my time trying to convince you when it's completely plausible that that could happen. I mean for Gods sake it colorless, orderliness, and highly toxic, what more do you need to know.
Well for starters let's see at the most your accusing me of making money off of peoples suicides. At the least your implying so.
Are you implying that I work for alldaychemist.com and that I get a cut of every sale on anti-emetics from that site? What a joke. Are you fucking serious? Don't you understand how marketing even works? OK let's play this out. I would have to provide an affiliate link to get any kind of compensation. (which alldaychemist.com isn't an affiliate link) And as soon as alldaychemist.com found out that I was marketing to suicidal people they would cut ties immediately to avoid bad publicity. Hum no your logic is way off.
As far as psychedelics, well shit man name one other substance that has the potential to help people mentally and spiritually than psychedelics? You won't find any. And again I provide no affiliate link. Which makes your claim look cook-coo.
And who gives a shit whether I will use N tomorrow or in 30 years. I have it and I will use it. Stop trying to undermine my understanding of N and how I advise people.
And you still haven't told me a better euthanasia drug, especially that is recommended by a doctor.
What that I called N the king of euthanasia? LOL What a joke. Name one other euthanasia method that is better than N and is recommeneded by a doctor? I already provided that Dr Philip Nitschke recommends N as the top euthanasia drug.
I think am going to stop responding to such petty claims as these. I know some of you's are mentally challenged but fuck man, use some common sense.
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Omega7
Alien
- Apr 10, 2019
- 37
Memento Mori
shambling garbage
- Jan 24, 2019
- 573
why do you people even discuss with that self-called god of euthanasia and great help for humanity to make it a better place? lolz
no it's not about that. if you're that intelligent, you would rembember why I find you dubios. yeah you shouldn't respond to such "petty claims" since you just rhymed yourself together what u wanted to hear instead of figuring out what's meant. i know, some people are mentally challegend with god complexes and can't see no errors in their behaiour as saviour of SS and all suicidals á la: "el preventino! me haz 1000 score god will love me" but calm the fuck down, it's no coindicende that many on this forum don't think a fantastic individual about you as yourself may do.
btw: there's no need to repeat in every third of your posts that you have N in your refrigerator. have read that enough times now. uo sound more penetrating than the people who try to fake-sell N here
also it seems' like we've got another one who is praising N to the heavens. theres no surance for that too, only one of the highest chsnces, but i guess you already know that, same goes for the fact that not many ppl can afford N
no it's not about that. if you're that intelligent, you would rembember why I find you dubios. yeah you shouldn't respond to such "petty claims" since you just rhymed yourself together what u wanted to hear instead of figuring out what's meant. i know, some people are mentally challegend with god complexes and can't see no errors in their behaiour as saviour of SS and all suicidals á la: "el preventino! me haz 1000 score god will love me" but calm the fuck down, it's no coindicende that many on this forum don't think a fantastic individual about you as yourself may do.
btw: there's no need to repeat in every third of your posts that you have N in your refrigerator. have read that enough times now. uo sound more penetrating than the people who try to fake-sell N here
also it seems' like we've got another one who is praising N to the heavens. theres no surance for that too, only one of the highest chsnces, but i guess you already know that, same goes for the fact that not many ppl can afford N
GeorgeJL
Enlightened
- Mar 7, 2019
- 1,621
Still waiting for that method that is suppose to be better than nembutal. If you don't have it I'm done here.
Memento Mori
shambling garbage
- Jan 24, 2019
- 573
nice evade, if we have to go that way: falling from 10km height an (getiting conscious from panic)
walking right into a forest fire
inject a hundret times lethal dose of animal venom
you specified nothing about painless so i'm just gonna reply the way you do and avoid what i don't want to think/answer about. i'm done here now too
@OT SI is just a matter of attitude. doesn't depend on if you drink N or jump from somewhere. rather depends on the pain of some methods that scare you. when i'm ready to go i wont spent a thought about the end of this, i wont even try to enjoy, the mind has to be free from earthly bound feelings to sucessfully go trough with a ctb. everything else stands in the way and should be solved first. this may be harder for some people than others
GeorgeJL
Enlightened
- Mar 7, 2019
- 1,621
I answered way more of your questions than you did mine so don't try to play this childish game with me talking about "i'm just gonna reply the way you do and avoid what i don't want to think/answer about"
No so fast, you were the one that said that "Of course there are many other substances which are equally (or more) lethal, less unpleasant, far more readily available, and far less expensive." I didn't say that you did. So what are they? Look I know all the main methods. I know that there is none that is better than N because I've read up about all of them quite extensively. The only one that comes close is sodium nitrite with anti-emetics but even that isn't as good as N. I am not expecting a good reply, but hey you just might surprise me.
omw/2/ctb
Nothing in his life became him like the leaving it
- Mar 29, 2019
- 53
So you respond by making ANOTHER series of irrelevant plugs and failing to supply valid information.
i.e. You can't... Obviously you don't have to, but you would if you could...for god's sake, man, you're on your computer, how hard could it be? If you can't support your claims, don't make them.
I never said you are profiting from anything (though it would be perfectly consistent with your posts) what I said is you SOUND like you're marketing and you are failing to provide valid useful information.
And, since you just repeated your marketing claims for N and posted the full web address of your online pharmacy three times each, you're pretty much proving my point yourself.
Naturally, since you can't make a reasoned response, you make an offensive comment. This one will be reported to the admin and it's very revealing about the way you view the rest of us from your position as a suicide tourist.
The ORIGINAL question here was about the fears that suicidal people have...
Who are you to answer this question? You're not even suicidal. Of course it makes a difference that you're not actually suicidal (no mater what you claim to have in your fridge). Who are you to advise people about fears you don't have?! It's very disturbing that you are creeping around here telling other people how to die like you're some kind of Doctor (c.f. the profile picture) when in fact you're here for your own strange reasons.
Your constant repetition of what sounds like marketing and the tone of contempt in your responses betrays the fact that you're not here out of compassion for others. But if you have any decency, you'll stop doubling down with your plugs and your petulant replies.
i.e. You can't... Obviously you don't have to, but you would if you could...for god's sake, man, you're on your computer, how hard could it be? If you can't support your claims, don't make them.
I never said you are profiting from anything (though it would be perfectly consistent with your posts) what I said is you SOUND like you're marketing and you are failing to provide valid useful information.
And, since you just repeated your marketing claims for N and posted the full web address of your online pharmacy three times each, you're pretty much proving my point yourself.
Naturally, since you can't make a reasoned response, you make an offensive comment. This one will be reported to the admin and it's very revealing about the way you view the rest of us from your position as a suicide tourist.
The ORIGINAL question here was about the fears that suicidal people have...
Who are you to answer this question? You're not even suicidal. Of course it makes a difference that you're not actually suicidal (no mater what you claim to have in your fridge). Who are you to advise people about fears you don't have?! It's very disturbing that you are creeping around here telling other people how to die like you're some kind of Doctor (c.f. the profile picture) when in fact you're here for your own strange reasons.
Your constant repetition of what sounds like marketing and the tone of contempt in your responses betrays the fact that you're not here out of compassion for others. But if you have any decency, you'll stop doubling down with your plugs and your petulant replies.
GeorgeJL
Enlightened
- Mar 7, 2019
- 1,621
I supported many of my claims and you ignored most of them while refusing to answer the one main question I had for you. And there is nothing wrong with being mentally challenged just use some common sense. Yeah I'm done.
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omw/2/ctb
Nothing in his life became him like the leaving it
- Mar 29, 2019
- 53
I'm desperately afraid of ingesting poison, it's been one of my lifelong fears, so I can relate to how you're feeling. For that reason I have done a lot of research into accidental deaths to see what substances have the highest toxicity.
Helium, nitrogen, argon, hydrogen sulfide (h2s) and carbon monoxide (co). All of these are deadly and, because they're easily inhaled, (at lethal levels) they do not cause discomfort but rapidly lead to death. The last two are the easiest to produce and are the most (irreversibly) toxic.
The fear of what it feels like to ingest poison is why the gasses seem more appealing to me. I intend to fill a confined space then enter when a lethal level has been achieved. Both co and h2s result in almost immediate unconsciousness and death within 3 to 5 minutes.
I'm not sure how I'll deal with SI when my time comes but I've been running trials on my method to make sure that I don't botch the attempt, another huge fear for me.
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GeorgeJL
Enlightened
- Mar 7, 2019
- 1,621
Finally after many posts you decide to list these other methods that are better than nembutal, bravo, I knew you could do it. OK first of all you didn't list the doctor that recommends these as being better than N generally speaking. OK inert gases are good but they are not as peaceful as N. Hydrogen sulfide definitely isn't peaceful and totally not worth it. Carbon monoxide is probably the most peaceful out of all of these, but it's highly toxic to rescue crews which is why Dr Philip Nitschke doesn't promote it that much.
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omw/2/ctb
Nothing in his life became him like the leaving it
- Mar 29, 2019
- 53
You are again factually incorrect. With the first breath h2s paralyses the olfactory sense and by the 3rd paralyses the respiratory reflex. In the case of all of these substances it is reported that the bodies appear peaceful. The rapidity of effect is what makes h2s so peaceful but also dangerous to first responders (unlike co).
AGAIN I'm going to suggest that you respect what this thread is about and ask you to PLEASE stop making your plugs.
Factual information on gas methods:
'Nitrogen Preferred as Most Humane Method for Capital Punishment'
'Nitrogen Induced Hypoxia as a Form of Capital Punishment'
Nitschke promotes euthanasia by nitrogen gas
A euthanasia expert just unveiled his ‘suicide machine’ at an Amsterdam funeral fair - The Peaceful Pill Handbook
Share on TwitterShare on Facebook It is not the most cheerful offering. But euthanasia activist Philip Nitschke thinks he is about to revolutionize how we die. At a funeral fair in Amsterdam last week, he showed off his “suicide machine.” The “Sarco,” short for sarcophagus, is designed to...
www.peacefulpillhandbook.com
'Carbon monoxide (CO) poisoning'
Carbon monoxide (CO) poisoning - Lost All Hope
In the past, using car exhaust fumes to commit suicide was a well known method. Whether that was by running a car engine continuously in an enclosed space like a garage, or by running a pipe from the exhaust directly into the car, again, ideally in a garage. But that was before the days of […]
lostallhope.com
'Carbon monoxide kills in minutes'
Carbon monoxide kills in minutes | Life
Swift, undetectable, deadly. Don't fall victim to CO poisoning.
Info on several methods including Carbon Monoxide and Helium
The many ways to hasten death - The World Federation of Right to Die Societies
The sixth meeting of NuTech was held in Seattle in January to continue the quest to develop new technologies for self-deliverance. It was attended by 20 people from six countries including several member organizations of the World Federation.
www.worldrtd.net
Suicide By Asphyxiation Due to Helium Inhalation
Hydrogen Sulfide Suicide, Latest Technique Hazardous to First Responders and the Public
Chemical (Hydrogen Sulfide) Suicides: The Risk to Emergency Responders
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GeorgeJL
Enlightened
- Mar 7, 2019
- 1,621
This is by a pro-self-euthanasia website.
Suicide by painful chemical gas – not the way to go! https://exiteuthanasia.wordpress.com/2011/03/01/suicide-by-painful-chemical-gas-not-the-way-to-go/
Oh and as far as that link. Well yeah, but that same Dr recommends N above nitrogen in his book.
And inert gas is rated 7/10 on the peacefulness scale whereas N is rated 10/10. By the same guy you linked to in the website you posted.
See for yourself here.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1-2NX0jVOjCrOJycMsy3KLXHMSGL3MSnV
Again I know what I am talking about.
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