Story "SaSu is full of horrible people" A Retrospective

[NormallyNeurotic]

When I first joined this forum at 18, "sent here" by Tantacunt's hate video, it was partially needing a place with less censorship—but also partially the same self-harm urge that drove me to places that were as close to 4Chan as I could get without actually being on 4Chan.

I would have never expected the people I met here. At this point, you have to manually pick threads and users to actually get a picture of this forum that isn't at the very least sympathetic.

For one, you'd have to completely avoid so many posts by @whywere and of course anything by @webb&flow. Not to mention the other people here who I honestly like to call my friends (I'm aware of the irony), who show so much humanity and willingness to see nuance, debate freely, show compassion (even when it's hard), help others recover/survive/thrive, etc...

If you wanted to properly villainize this forum, you need to make us all look like unintellectual, nihilistic, uncompassionate, selfish sadomasochists. That's hard to do, even in the Suicide Section. So many people talk others down from impulsive, regrettable suicides daily. There's a reason my therapist knows I'm on here—this is exactly the type of place a proper psychologally-inclined person should find necessary, not inherently dangerous.

Freely talking about suicide should not be restricted outside of allowing trigger warnings and the like for suicide attempt/suicidal ideation survivors. Full stop.

 

[tonicer]

I'm pretty new here but so far i only read and interacted with sensible people. I like this place since i feel like i am not alone with my curse. I think talking about something is better than trying to ignore it. Suicide is a nono topic in most places even though it happens all the time and takes a lot of good people daily.

 

[Grog]

Don't be so naive to think that this place is a sanctuary either though. Some people here do hide foul intent.
Always be careful about what information you share, where you are sharing it, and with whom.

 

[NormallyNeurotic]

Don't be so naive to think that this place is a sanctuary either though. Some people here do hide foul intent.
Always be careful about what information you share, where you are sharing it, and with whom.

Oh, definitely. But that's just basic internet safety. Sharing personal info on Twitter is probably more dangerous nowadays tbh

 

[MyLifeisHell]

Tantacrul did not deserve to choose a name that evoked Pokemon

 

[martyrdom]

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[NormallyNeurotic]

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[Always-in-trouble]

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I think UK be a good example. Everything here is one fat culture war (especially immigrants which make up a subtantial amount of our workforce and population so the arguments basically boild down to greed and racism) and the current leadership are fence-sitters. Also, sorry if this a weird question, do you think if people have a genuinely good support work and an a person wants to attempt, should they have the right to prevent them. , especially with specific conditionslike depressions or problems which are not really that world-ending?

 

[martyrdom]

Also, sorry if this a weird question, do you think if people have a genuinely good support work and an a person wants to attempt, should they have the right to prevent them. , especially with specific conditionslike depressions or problems which are not really that world-ending?

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[Always-in-trouble]

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Thanks for the answer. Wasn't there a thing about waiting letters being discussed with certain conditions which permit suicides without criminalisation. (Non-government isssued ones, too much to go wrong there even with this). I feel like that is a solution that gives the receipent a good chance to think about their life in the whole capacity, preventing impulsiveness.

 

[martyrdom]

Thanks for the answer. Wasn't there a thing about waiting letters being discussed with certain conditions which permit suicides without criminalisation. (Non-government isssued ones, too much to go wrong there even with this). I feel like that is a solution that gives the receipent a good chance to think about their life in the whole capacity, preventing impulsiveness.

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[doomedbynarrative]

I mean even if there was a large population of unintellectual, nihilistic, uncompassionate, selfish sadomasochists on here at least they have a place where they can speak freely? They're human beings too.

People will be people. Some nice and some not so nice. Admin and whatnot are not saints and neither are the rest of us.

This place is ultimately what the users make of it and what has been made of it so far is not wholly "evil" and cannot be painted with such a broad brush.

 

[Always-in-trouble]

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Sectioning is what I meant. It is really a gamble on whether an hospital is being funded a decent budget for facillities and attentive staff members. The waiting letters haven't been implemented in any country yet - and definitely not in the UK as they only recently approved MAID for the terminally ill, I see if I can their origin somwhere

Sectioning is what I meant. It is really a gamble on whether an hospital is being funded a decent budget for facillities and attentive staff members. The waiting letters haven't been implemented in any country yet - and definitely not in the UK as they only recently approved MAID for the terminally ill, I see if I can their origin somewhere

 

[vyvanceandvodka]

When I first joined this forum at 18, "sent here" by Tantacunt's hate video, it was partially needing a place with less censorship—but also partially the same self-harm urge that drove me to places that were as close to 4Chan as I could get without actually being on 4Chan.

I would have never expected the people I met here. At this point, you have to manually pick threads and users to actually get a picture of this forum that isn't at the very least sympathetic.

For one, you'd have to completely avoid so many posts by @whywere and of course anything by @webb&flow. Not to mention the other people here who I honestly like to call my friends (I'm aware of the irony), who show so much humanity and willingness to see nuance, debate freely, show compassion (even when it's hard), help others recover/survive/thrive, etc...

If you wanted to properly villainize this forum, you need to make us all look like unintellectual, nihilistic, uncompassionate, selfish sadomasochists. That's hard to do, even in the Suicide Section. So many people talk others down from impulsive, regrettable suicides daily. There's a reason my therapist knows I'm on here—this is exactly the type of place a proper psychologally-inclined person should find necessary, not inherently dangerous.

Freely talking about suicide should not be restricted outside of allowing trigger warnings and the like for suicide attempt/suicidal ideation survivors. Full stop.

Can I ask how you told your therapist you're on here? I want to tell mine, but I'm worried it might cause an issue.

 

[NormallyNeurotic]

Can I ask how you told your therapist you're on here? I want to tell mine, but I'm worried it might cause an issue.

I phrased it as "a forum where I can discuss my darkest thoughts and hardest issues without people judging." I offhandedly commented that "it focuses on suicide but has a lot of different unrelated forum sections" and made it clear that I don't plan to use advice here to kill myself in the foreseeable future, in faxt this forum has kept me alive. I only went more into it recently when discovering how this forum seems safer than real life for me.

It's common knowledge with my therapist that I spent my whole childhood unable to outwardly express the feelings, pain, and intrusive thoughts in a productive way. I was never able to have a place like this (or even similar but less "toxic") as a kid, and that led to severe emotional repression and identity fracturing/dissociation.

I get at my worst when I have to hide my suffering for my safety, and my therapist has seen that. They knew I needed this, because it's a place of personal expression. I reiterated that I was being safe many times.

If your therapist is more stingy on exposure to suicide, it might backfire, but I talk about ideation to mine frequently. According to them, you're only legally required to call mental health services on a client if they INTEND to kill themselves, and just having ideation doesn't equal intention. Some (most) therapists are just paranoid and a bit "trigger happy."

I mean even if there was a large population of unintellectual, nihilistic, uncompassionate, selfish sadomasochists on here at least they have a place where they can speak freely? They're human beings too.

True, but anyone who's been in a group with a lot of those types knows it becomes an echo-chamber of suffering really fast.

This place is honestly the opposite of an echo-chamber for me. I already believed in Death With Dignity and such before I came here, and that's basically the only belief that everyone here shares to a certain extent. Opinions are so variable here.

 

[WhatCouldHaveBeen32]

I don't think SaSu is full of horrible people.

I think we're just people that want to talk about suicide without being censored.

However, if suicide was something more normalized or not taboo, I think 95% of the people here would not even talk to eachother if they found themselves on the vast internet or in real life.

I wouldn't personally and I'm not afraid of saying that.

 

[whywere]

When I first joined this forum at 18, "sent here" by Tantacunt's hate video, it was partially needing a place with less censorship—but also partially the same self-harm urge that drove me to places that were as close to 4Chan as I could get without actually being on 4Chan.

I would have never expected the people I met here. At this point, you have to manually pick threads and users to actually get a picture of this forum that isn't at the very least sympathetic.

For one, you'd have to completely avoid so many posts by @whywere and of course anything by @webb&flow. Not to mention the other people here who I honestly like to call my friends (I'm aware of the irony), who show so much humanity and willingness to see nuance, debate freely, show compassion (even when it's hard), help others recover/survive/thrive, etc...

If you wanted to properly villainize this forum, you need to make us all look like unintellectual, nihilistic, uncompassionate, selfish sadomasochists. That's hard to do, even in the Suicide Section. So many people talk others down from impulsive, regrettable suicides daily. There's a reason my therapist knows I'm on here—this is exactly the type of place a proper psychologally-inclined person should find necessary, not inherently dangerous.

Freely talking about suicide should not be restricted outside of allowing trigger warnings and the like for suicide attempt/suicidal ideation survivors. Full stop.

THANK YOU so much for the very kind shout out!

This place and everyone here are all family to/for me and I wish for everyone to have an excellent day!

You are a wonderful friend and like you this site is FAMILY and full of loving and caring souls.

I never listen to the BBC or any naysayers ever.

We are family yet each individual, and one aspect that i have learned in a hard way through all the decades is to never listen to negative, down at the mouth people, never.

WE are all beautiful people!

Walter

 

[Scythe]

It's like the survey Rain and Sadness did one time before, "does this site benefit you in any way?" And there was like 98%+ for yes. Idk what are the precentages now but I can say for certain if you did the same survey on Twitter, Insta, or any other social media the results would be different.

 

[Arvayn]

Tantacrul did not deserve to choose a name that evoked Pokemon

Behold the face of SaSu Anti-Christ. Gaze upon its terrifying PRO-LIFE visage and weep, you souls!

 

[Bad Karma]

i think most people on this forum are genuinely sympathetic and well intentioned. there's real care here and a lot of quiet human support that doesn't get talked about enough.

that said it doesn't take many bad actors to change the feel of a place. a small number of detractors, nihilists, or predators can easily overshadow the good. especially when they treat vulnerability like something to exploit. i've had a bad experience here myself and once that happens the sense of safety never fully comes back.

from the outside those moments are what get noticed and talked about. a group of people simply being there for each other isn't especially loud or shocking but harm is. so the stigma sticks even if it doesn't tell the whole story.

i can hold both things as true, that this forum has real compassion in it, and that it will never feel entirely safe for some people, myself included. and I don't think acknowledging that takes away from the good it just names the cost of sharing space with the worst parts of humanity too.