Risks of unprepared SN attempt

[SN;)]

I've had SN in my secret safe for 5 years now. Been hesitating and putting off my day of CTB for the past 5 years. By then my life has fallen apart completely. I'm thinking my day to CTB is coming soon. I know Stan's guide to SN recommends 8 hours fasting, and hiding away properly. However, these days I sometimes get impulsive thoughts that I really want to go to my secret safe and take the SN right now. What are the risks of an eventual emotional breakdown leading to taking the SN without the 8 hours fasting and without making sure that nobody finds me in time?

There is the risk that I die without properly having said goodbye to the people I wanted to. I feel an emotionally positive aspect of the impulsive scenario: I can go with no second thoughts and hesitation. And there's the risk that I survive, either by vomiting it out (I don't 100% trust my antiemetic). Or getting found. I read in the PPH that if methylene blue is injected in time SN poisoning is reversible and the risk of ending up in a coma or similar are low. So I either die or it gets reversed, right? I'd be risking getting locked up in a mental hospital, but the more grave question is, would I be risking having to live on with permanent damage?

 

[Adûnâi]

Is this 8 hour fasting for people who go to the toilet multiple times a day?

 

[SN;)]

"If your stomach feels empty after 4 hours, take a 4 hours fast. Some sources say 8 hours is needed." I'm not so sure, but I think I have an average pace metabolism, so I thought I'd go with the higher number.

 

[Onelegman]

I've had SN in my secret safe for 5 years now. Been hesitating and putting off my day of CTB for the past 5 years. By then my life has fallen apart completely. I'm thinking my day to CTB is coming soon. I know Stan's guide to SN recommends 8 hours fasting, and hiding away properly. However, these days I sometimes get impulsive thoughts that I really want to go to my secret safe and take the SN right now. What are the risks of an eventual emotional breakdown leading to taking the SN without the 8 hours fasting and without making sure that nobody finds me in time?

There is the risk that I die without properly having said goodbye to the people I wanted to. I feel an emotionally positive aspect of the impulsive scenario: I can go with no second thoughts and hesitation. And there's the risk that I survive, either by vomiting it out (I don't 100% trust my antiemetic). Or getting found. I read in the PPH that if methylene blue is injected in time SN poisoning is reversible and the risk of ending up in a coma or similar are low. So I either die or it gets reversed, right? I'd be risking getting locked up in a mental hospital, but the more grave question is, would I be risking having to live on with permanent damage?

Isn't it expired after 5 years?

Is this 8 hour fasting for people who go to the toilet multiple times a day?

Going to the bathroom empties your intestine, not your stomach, fasting is so that the stomach is as eager as possible to process food, but we give it poison.

 

[Valky]

Isn't it expired after 5 years?

It can last indefinitely if it is properly sealed!

Going to the bathroom empties your intestine, not your stomach, fasting is so that the stomach is as eager as possible to process food, but we give it poison.

I second this, never heard of an 8 hour fast before. Wishing you all the best with your decision tho!!

 

[ferrie]

It can last indefinitely if it is properly sealed!

This is theoretically true, but in practice the nitrite will slowly degrade to nitrate even if the packaging is never opened. Food grade SN will stay within the assay reported levels for about three years, after which you can no longer guarantee the purity

 

[Forveleth]

This thread might be of use to you. Someone compiled outcomes of SN tries, both successful and not.

SN Successful and Unsuccessful cases 2023 update

I have combined and added all the brief summary of all the attempts, assumed successful and unsuccessful, of SN suicide. These are all posts that the member has made to document the method, news articles, and scientific articles. If I have missed any I apologise and it would be great if you can...

sanctioned-suicide.net

 

[Valky]

This is theoretically true, but in practice the nitrite will slowly degrade to nitrate even if the packaging is never opened. Food grade SN will stay within the assay reported levels for about three years, after which you can no longer guarantee the purity

That is true but like said, it is very depending on the container and where it is kept. Doing an aquarium test beforehand is what I would recommend to be sure.

 

[rozeske]

I've had SN in my secret safe for 5 years now. Been hesitating and putting off my day of CTB for the past 5 years. By then my life has fallen apart completely. I'm thinking my day to CTB is coming soon. I know Stan's guide to SN recommends 8 hours fasting, and hiding away properly. However, these days I sometimes get impulsive thoughts that I really want to go to my secret safe and take the SN right now. What are the risks of an eventual emotional breakdown leading to taking the SN without the 8 hours fasting and without making sure that nobody finds me in time?

There is the risk that I die without properly having said goodbye to the people I wanted to. I feel an emotionally positive aspect of the impulsive scenario: I can go with no second thoughts and hesitation. And there's the risk that I survive, either by vomiting it out (I don't 100% trust my antiemetic). Or getting found. I read in the PPH that if methylene blue is injected in time SN poisoning is reversible and the risk of ending up in a coma or similar are low. So I either die or it gets reversed, right? I'd be risking getting locked up in a mental hospital, but the more grave question is, would I be risking having to live on with permanent damage?

People have accidentally died from it with no preparation and very little amount of SN. They also have survived it. Impulsive and unplanned attempt is not ideal . It's not always a die or reverse thing. Depending on a lot of factors you could be saved fine or sustain damage.

 

[SN;)]

Yeah I also read that it has an indefinite shelf life. But good point, I'll do an aquarium test. Although I'm pretty sure it doesn't contact air in my container.

 

[Unknown21]

The worst that may happen is brain damage or amputation (uncommon or unlikely), although you do not reach the stage of brain damage because death often occurs before that and the cause is cardiac arrest. This explains why most of the failed cases do not have brain damage, but in return they can have heart \ kidney \ bladder problems.
If your SN is pure enough, you will die of cardiac arrest while unconscious within 40 minutes or less.

 

[Dark-Knight]

The worst that may happen is brain damage or amputation (uncommon or unlikely), although you do not reach the stage of brain damage because death often occurs before that and the cause is cardiac arrest. This explains why most of the failed cases do not have brain damage, but in return they can have heart \ kidney \ bladder problems.
If your SN is pure enough, you will die of cardiac arrest while unconscious within 40 minutes or less.

What can get amputated? And why would amputation be required?

 

[Unknown21]

What can get amputated? And why would amputation be required?

There are no cases of amputation due to SN so far. I am just assuming the worst scenario. I assumed this because I read in an article previously about a case who was suffering from sepsis and had one of her limbs amputated and there was a high level of methemoglobin in the blood. Also, theoretically, hypoxia causes tissue damage, which can lead to amputation.

 

[Edgerunner]

Even if it works and gets the job done, I don't think it is worth crossing the bridge while freaking about how it could go sideways :/