Discussion Responses when 'beautiful' people suicide.

[Forever Sleep]

I know this has been commented on before and obviously, I hope this lady is now resting in peace. Plus, whoever the person and their level of attractiveness, families I'm sure suffer the same grief.

However, have you become aware of this story:



Obviously, she was especially attractive. It's difficult not to notice but, so many people remark on it in the comments. I suppose they believe someone that attractive just has everything going for them. Not necessarily though. There is a sense though that it is especially a waste when a person is beautiful.

Maybe the sexist part of me thinks: What is it you're expecting her to stay alive for? So she can get shafted or oogled over by a lot of men? What else is being phenominally attractive going to do for you? Asides from gain approval from men? Maybe that wasn't enough for her. Maybe her other struggles were bigger than being lusted over.

I suppose I find it odd when men want to be attractive women. Not in terms of trans and it being a genuine feeling. More the whole incel- women have it so easy. Or, at least attractive women anyhow. Really though- isn't it the idea that attractive women will attract wealthy men- attractive or not- to look after them? So- do they actually have the power or, is it the men still that do? What if they're attractive but asexual? Or, lesbian? How will they 'make it' in the world then- on their own possibly, if they don't want a man? I guess in some way, they still need to play on their looks to get by.

I don't know. Just a bit of a sexist rant really. Do attractive male suicides get the same response? I'm not sure. It's kind of sad though. It's all human life that is lost when someone ends their life or, even goes missing. It is kind of weird the way so much emphasis or alarmed response is placed on the beautiful ones. A bit like 'Missing White Woman Syndrome', which refers to the disproportionate media attention that goes on white woman that go missing.

The worst thing is- I find myself doing it too- she was so beautiful. I wouldn't say it out loud though. I tend to check myself to say- she was beautiful but it's sad when any life pushes someone to suicide.

 

[WatchmeBurn]

It's sad that the way she chose to commit suicide involved traumatising the person who dived with her. I think even if you are suicidal you still have an ethical responsibility to avoid harming others if possible.

 

[Forever Sleep]

It's sad that the way she chose to commit suicide involved traumatising the person who dived with her. I think even if you are suicidal you still have an ethical responsibility to avoid harming others if possible.

Yes- that's a valid point. I think people on the ground witnessed it too. It's very tricky with any public suicide really. Personally, I'd also want to avoid something public. However, part of the blame has (in my mind) to go on our law makers. If they keep on restricting other more private methods so heavily (which I also do understand- to be fair,) it's likely more people will become desperate enough to attempt more brutal and publicly visable methods.

The ideal of course would be to legalise assisted suicide in clinics where it could be properly regulated and spare people these sorts of sights. Realistically though, even if they do bring it in, it will only 'benefit' a tiny fraction of the people who want it so, I expect to see more cases like this. Especially with the further clamp downs on substances like SN.

 

[roommate]

This video shows multiple pictures of her being beautifull, also none of her personal story is told.
As if this loss is worse because she is supposed to be a higher human being or some sort just because of her looks.
I think it is very subjective what they are doing to present it this way.

You would also might say these kind of people must really mean their suicide because they probably were given more chances.
Just some thoughts for debate really, but don't take me too serious on this.

It's sad that she has come to this and that's the bottomline for me.

 

[bankai]

She suffered just like everyone else who wants to off themselves. When you get up in the morning, you're not thinking about how good looking you are. You're thinking, why am I still alive? How do I get through another day?

 

[Forever Sleep]

You would also might say these kind of people must really mean their suicide because they probably were given more chances.

That's an interesting idea. That things would have to be especially bad because we again assume they have more opportunities than other, less attractive people.

Still- as someone in the comments wrote: Perhaps she was sick of her worth being tied in with her looks the whole time. (Paraphrasing there.) The trouble with being that attractive I imagine is that you are also very open to being exploited.

Plus, not all attractive people enjoy others ogling over them. I worked with a stunning lady once in retail and many of the customers would make highly personal remarks. I guess because they imagined they were complimentary, they thought it was ok but, she felt uncomfortable about it.

Ultimately, it may have been nothing tp do with her looks. Regardless though, I agree- it's sad that anyone's life brings them to that point.

 

[Cauliflour]

I don't give a crap if she was pretty, why'd she do it? No speculation or guesses? She left a note, what did it say? Come on...

 

[Forever Sleep]

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I don't give a crap if she was pretty, why'd she do it? No speculation or guesses? She left a note, what did it say? Come on...

Maybe more details will emerge later. Still, sometimes families prefer to maintain privacy I suppose.

Initially, lots of people wouldn't believe it. Again- probably because she was so attractive. Many were saying it was likely sabotage. That has happened in the UK too- a husband interfering with his wifes parachute.

 

[roommate]

That's an interesting idea. That things would have to be especially bad because we again assume they have more opportunities than other, less attractive people.

Still- as someone in the comments wrote: Perhaps she was sick of her worth being tied in with her looks the whole time. (Paraphrasing there.) The trouble with being that attractive I imagine is that you are also very open to being exploited.

Plus, not all attractive people enjoy others ogling over them. I worked with a stunning lady once in retail and many of the customers would make highly personal remarks. I guess because they imagined they were complimentary, they thought it was ok but, she felt uncomfortable about it.

Ultimately, it may have been nothing tp do with her looks. Regardless though, I agree- it's sad that anyone's life brings them to that point.

Less attractive people are often more depressed because they feel limited.
They might have to work harder for opportunities so there might be more things to explore.
While the more attractive person might already have had those oppertunities and didn't care for them.
So the attractive person might have exchausted their options faster to get out of the missery.

Yea being attractive and having this attention from people who only cares for her looks is also a sad reality.
I could argue that she might not be that good looking to be in that position, but I can only tell from a few pictures and it's all very subjective.
But if her attractiveness would be the reason for her suicide, the news reporting and showing of her beauty is then even worse.

But yea from my side pure theory on some speculaton thoughts.

 

[Cauliflour]

Maybe more details will emerge later. Still, sometimes families prefer to maintain privacy I suppose.

Initially, lots of people wouldn't believe it. Again- probably because she was so attractive. Many were saying it was likely sabotage. That has happened in the UK too- a husband interfering with his wifes parachute.

I just feel like asking why she did it should've been on peoples' radars not the fact that she was pretty. People kill themselves for a reason and finding out said reason can bring closure and awareness. Maybe I'm just nosey idk.

 

[divinemistress36]

Mental illness doesnt discriminate. It doesnt matter how attractive you are if the wiring is off in your brain

 

[Forever Sleep]

I just feel like asking why she did it should've been on peoples' radars not the fact that she was pretty. People kill themselves for a reason and finding out said reason can bring closure and awareness. Maybe I'm just nosey idk.

I don't think it's nosey. It shows concern. Plus, any society that sincerely wants to prevent suicide should be asking. They might be able to do more to prevent people's situations from getting that bad to begin with.

Of course, it may be the families choice to not want to share the details publicly- which should also be respected.

 

[Knoc]

Mental illness doesnt discriminate. It doesnt matter how attractive you are if the wiring is off in your brain

My wiring was done by a professional, an artist, a savant. Perfectly designed to optimize misery.

Put some respect on his name.

 

[Jiroscope]

It's sad that the way she chose to commit suicide involved traumatising the person who dived with her. I think even if you are suicidal you still have an ethical responsibility to avoid harming others if possible.

I'm trying to, but they keep banning all the other reliable methods that don't harm others. In Canada they're sending wellness checks for SN again. It's pushing me to methods like trains...

 

[SilentSadness]

So many pro life comments, some of them are fairly kind although they draw unnecessary attention to her appearance but most are obnoxious and clueless. The vast majority of people are genuinely so horrible and disgusting to be around, they couldn't care less about anyone else's suffering and are usually directly responsible for mass suffering of others. Also the idea that it was selfish of her because the poor paramedics had to clean up her body has to be one of the most sadistic things, these people are the same group responsible for her not having another way out. They are villains.

 

[divinemistress36]

So many pro life comments, some of them are fairly kind although they draw unnecessary attention to her appearance but most are obnoxious and clueless. The vast majority of people are genuinely so horrible and disgusting to be around, they couldn't care less about anyone else's suffering and are usually directly responsible for mass suffering of others. Also the idea that it was selfish of her because the poor paramedics had to clean up her body has to be one of the most sadistic things, these people are the same group responsible for her not having another way out. They are villains.

Most people dont understand clinical depression and Paramedics are use to seeing that shit

 

[bankai]

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I don't give a crap if she was pretty, why'd she do it? No speculation or guesses? She left a note, what did it say? Come on...

It's said,'I'm too beautiful for this cruel world'

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I'm guessing though

 

[moonflow3r]

It's said,'I'm too beautiful for this cruel world'

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I'm guessing though

I was hoping to see your beautiful face behind the spoiler , im so intrigued¡

 

[bankai]

I was hoping to see your beautiful face behind the spoiler , im so intrigued¡

Ooh la la!Don't make me bid adieu too soon.I'm still doing research here on the best bus to take. It's taking time, of course, since, you know, I was blessed with beauty, but not much brains.

 

[Valhala]

People do not understand that each of us has special priorities, different points of tolerance for frustration and suffering pain. So what is an absolute priority for someone and the lack of that something is unbearable for someone else, it means almost nothing to someone else, whether he had it or not (here it can be about external appearance, success, position in society, etc.). So, most people who are of average or below average appearance and belong to "prolifers" are not able to understand how someone who is in something far superior to them and many doors are open to him on his life's path, he can perform CTB. People are superficial and mostly are not able to go a little deeper into the problem, but they judge lightly, mostly from themselves.

 

[victim4]

Ha, you should read how Korean men comments on attractive women's suicide on the internet. It's mostly about how the dead girl should have been raped/fucked by them before the suicide. The girl gets a cyber rape even after her suicide, and the comments are worse if the girl had more attractive appearance. Sometimes they comment how they want to rape/fuck the dead girl's body. Everytime I read those, I feel disgusted.

 

[Valhala]

Ha, you should read how Korean men comments on attractive women's suicide on the internet. It's mostly about how the dead girl should have been raped/fucked by them before the suicide. The girl gets a cyber rape even after her suicide, and the comments are worse if the girl had more attractive appearance. Sometimes they comment how they want to rape/fuck the dead girl's body. Everytime I read those, I feel disgusted.

What perverted idiots, they would probably rape her even if she was dead. But just think how much of an idiot you have to be to even think something like that, let alone write it and publish it publicly.

 

[victim4]

What perverted idiots, they would probably rape her even if she was dead. But just think how much of an idiot you have to be to even think something like that, let alone write it and publish it publicly.

It is commonly happening in the culture, especially on the internet. Majority of korean men see women just as sexual objects, but come on it's a dead girl. So disrespectful for the dead! I feel disgusted everytime.