Removal of N from M from PPeH

[nozomu]

Unfortunately M has been removed from PPeH. You should consider yourself scammed if you placed an order.

Shared from Exit forums:

Bad news - post from Philip Nitschke on PPeH forum:

Removal of N supplier from PPeH

Too many reports of non-response or delivery by 'M',

Removed from eHandbook and added to the NembutalScams website www.nembutalscams.com

 

[jasmineck]

Yes and this new email already deleted because recently i send email to him and response come account recently deleted, and it is bad news that i loss my 500usd

 

[nozomu]

Yes and this new email already deleted because recently i send email to him and response come account recently deleted, and it is bad news that i loss my 500usd

Sorry to hear. Sadly this is always a risk in sourcing.

 

[Sk3le]

How he was verified in the First Place?

 

[mondo9k]

How he was verified in the First Place?

For a period of time people were reporting success getting N from that email. Exit International even did tests to prove the product was legit. Then gradually more and more people would not get a delivery or even a response.

 

[jasmineck]

How he was verified in the First Place?

This source added into ppeh book since november 2022 but this source dont send product to anyone, i think he is deliver only nearby mexico, and scam other people, and his reply from mail are copy of D, he just change name M in place of D.now he is gone from book due to scamming,and currently no new realiable supplier

 

[nozomu]

This source added into ppeh book since november 2022 but this source dont send product to anyone, i think he is deliver only nearby mexico, and scam other people, and his reply from mail are copy of D, he just change name M in place of D.now he is gone from book due to scamming,and currently no new realiable supplier

He delivered at least one known order. But that's all we know about

 

[jasmineck]

He delivered at least one known order. But that's all we know about

He also send product to me but it is plastic empty bottle,nothing inside

 

[nozomu]

He also send product to me but it is plastic empty bottle,nothing inside

That is really tragic... The person I'm in contact with has the product and it's verified but they seem to be the only one who got it.

 

[rationaltake]

That is really tragic... The person I'm in contact with has the product and it's verified but they seem to be the only one who got it.

Thanks for letting us know.

 

[nozomu]

Thanks for letting us know.

No problem. Hoping another vendor turns up eventually.

 

[Lost in a Dream]

Hopefully they can find another supplier to replace this one. It's bad enough when people scam those who are suffering and desperate for a solution, but for a legit seller to turn into a scammer just feels like the worst betrayal imaginable.

Sometimes I wish assisted suicide was legal so we could buy N from a delivery service, like the ones that bring food to your door. It would be amazing to have access to something like that, without it being illegal.

 

[nozomu]

Hopefully they can find another supplier to replace this one. It's bad enough when people scam those who are suffering and desperate for a solution, but for a legit seller to turn into a scammer just feels like the worst betrayal imaginable.

Sadly this has happened many times before, and will definitely happen again.

 

[Diacon]

Shit.. Any other supplier around?

 

[nozomu]

Shit.. Any other supplier around?

No. He was the first since D left

 

[Diacon]

No. He was the first since D left

Shit... I was really hoping we can finally buy N.. I hope there will be someone as soon as possible.

 

[nozomu]

Shit... I was really hoping we can finally buy N.. I hope there will be someone as soon as possible.

I'm sorry, it really sucks that we have an unreliable situation wrt N

 

[Departme]

I'm not a fan of PPH I think its just a big money spinner for the guy with little substance that any person could search out themselves on the net. Then there is the number of people who have lost serious money trying to source N through his contacts.

 

[nozomu]

I'm not a fan of PPH I think its just a big money spinner for the guy with little substance that any person could search out themselves on the net. Then there is the number of people who have lost serious money trying to source N through his contacts.

Exit has never guaranteed the contacts. You cannot guarantee illegal transactions pretty much ever, so.. also the information in PPeH is quite useful but I don't think it should be restricted to 50+

 

[Disaster]

Hopefully they can find another supplier to replace this one. It's bad enough when people scam those who are suffering and desperate for a solution, but for a legit seller to turn into a scammer just feels like the worst betrayal imaginable.

Sometimes I wish assisted suicide was legal so we could buy N from a delivery service, like the ones that bring food to your door. It would be amazing to have access to something like that, without it being illegal.

Nice fantasy, but not a good idea considering how shitty actually people are. Imagine all the people tricking others into taking it, administering it by force or coercion or blackmail of something worse and less peaceful. Imagine people using it to get rid of political opponents and alike. It's a nice idea to have it, but in real world in real society anyone allowed to order it just like you order pizza is something that could work only in complete anarchy.

 

[Lost in a Dream]

Nice fantasy, but not a good idea considering how shitty actually people are. Imagine all the people tricking others into taking it, administering it by force or coercion or blackmail of something worse and less peaceful. Imagine people using it to get rid of political opponents and alike. It's a nice idea to have it, but in real world in real society anyone allowed to order it just like you order pizza is something that could work only in complete anarchy.

You're totally right and it sucks. Oh well, a guy can dream right?

 

[nozomu]

You're totally right and it sucks. Oh well, a guy can dream right?

Well, it says you're lost in a dream *ba dum tiss*

 

[intr0verse]

Nice fantasy, but not a good idea considering how shitty actually people are. Imagine all the people tricking others into taking it, administering it by force or coercion or blackmail of something worse and less peaceful. Imagine people using it to get rid of political opponents and alike. It's a nice idea to have it, but in real world in real society anyone allowed to order it just like you order pizza is something that could work only in complete anarchy.

You do realize that Nembutal (and other powerful barbiturates) was available as a sleeping pill back in the days? To get it, it was just as easy as today's ordering a pizza. This BS argument against AS and making reliable, peaceful options available comes mainly from pro-lifers. Anything can be used for any of the scenarios you mentioned.


And for kids,




Now, stop chewing pro-lifers arguments and imagine yourself having a walk to the nearest pharmacy and buy 15 grams of N with the equivalent of 35 swiss francs or something...

 

[Disaster]

You do realize that Nembutal (and other powerful barbiturates) was available as a sleeping pill back in the days? To get it, it was just as easy as today's ordering a pizza. This BS argument against AS and making reliable, peaceful options available comes mainly from pro-lifers. Anything can be used for any of the scenarios you mentioned.
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Now, stop chewing pro-lifers arguments and imagine yourself having a walk to the nearest pharmacy and buy 15 grams of N with the equivalent of 35 swiss francs or something...

I am not a pro-lifer and I will kindly ask you to stop insulting me like that. I am pro-choice, which means actually minding if people want to die or not. Many cultures have killed the elderly and sick, for example by taking them outside in the winter, and tbh it still happens in modern world in a socially acceptable way by keeping them for weeks or months in understaffed nursing homes, getting bedsores and other complications.
I wish we lived in a world where peoples choices were actually respected regardless of others prefer to have them alive or dead. Next best thing to humanity never happening at all.

 

[lastwords.com]

For a period of time people were reporting success getting N from that email. Exit International even did tests to prove the product was legit. Then gradually more and more people would not get a delivery or even a response.

Unfortunately there's people these days able to sneakily deliver emotional messages with the support of AI and are also able to make fake things seem real to mislead people and deliver misinformation linked to their scams through different channels like cloning their profiles with different names or messages etc..

It's sad I know, but we just gotta be more cautious and see what it is at face value when encountering such statements and do a bit of investigating to find the real truth/value of it by confirming/researching wether one's actually saying the truth, as to not get scammed like others did here in the forums, unfortunately.

I hope them the best and to you and all what's going on in life, it's heartbreaking to see this happening especially in the situation people are in, it's just really sickening what this world has become these days.

 

[lifeisbutadream]

You do realize that Nembutal (and other powerful barbiturates) was available as a sleeping pill back in the days? To get it, it was just as easy as today's ordering a pizza. This BS argument against AS and making reliable, peaceful options available comes mainly from pro-lifers. Anything can be used for any of the scenarios you mentioned.
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And for kids,

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Now, stop chewing pro-lifers arguments and imagine yourself having a walk to the nearest pharmacy and buy 15 grams of N with the equivalent of 35 swiss francs or something...

Not quite as easy as buying pizza though. I think it always required a prescription in the US, but that would have been easy to get. I wonder how much of the old stuff is in old medicine cabinets still. I'm not sure about the liquid n, but the sleeping pills would probably still be fine.

 

[nozomu]

Not quite as easy as buying pizza though. I think it always required a prescription in the US, but that would have been easy to get. I wonder how much of the old stuff is in old medicine cabinets still. I'm not sure about the liquid n, but the sleeping pills would probably still be fine.

Nah, the sleeping pills are over 20 years old atp since they stopped prescribing them long ago

 

[lifeisbutadream]

Nah, the sleeping pills are over 20 years old atp since they stopped prescribing them long ago

I think the powder, or tablets, is very stable. I tested some that was I think about nine years old, kept dry, but subject to temperature extremes, especially high heat. It seemed to be good as new.

 

[nozomu]

I think the powder, or tablets, is very stable. I tested some that was I think about nine years old, kept dry, but subject to temperature extremes, especially high heat. It seemed to be good as new.

Tested as in how? Chemical purity testing or ingestion?

 

[lifeisbutadream]

Tested as in how? Chemical purity testing or ingestion?

Ingestion.