Reason #419000 to not end up at a psychiatric hospital

[AmbleNorth]

 

[Walilamdzi]

What the fuck?

 

[CoolGuy9]

What a piece of shit.

 

[uiop]

This is terrible. I don't understand why anyone would do that. It's painful to watch. You could see the blood splatter while the cop was hitting him....

 

[AmbleNorth]

This is terrible. I don't understand why anyone would do that. It's painful to watch. You could see the blood splatter while the cop was hitting him....

As autonomy and rights are purged, often people are treated as less than human in these places. They are of no consequence. Just think if cell phone cameras didn't exist - this would just be another day.

 

[Walilamdzi]

I wish there was accountability in these places.

 

[KiraLittleOwl]

The cop was held accountable only because of they were investigating his drug dealing activities and stumbled upon this video on his phone.
Like he broke the guys eye socket bone.. and nobody did nothing about it.

 

[Walilamdzi]

The cop was held accountable only because of they were investigating his drug dealing activities and stumbled upon this video on his phone.
Like he broke the guys eye socket bone.. and nobody did nothing about it.

What a bastard. I hope he got some serious time...

 

[Cookiedough8956]

Wtf!? Stupid fucking cop

 

[Redt2go]

He was bleeding :( is this a recent video?

 

[CoolGuy9]

He was bleeding :( is this a recent video?

If i'm correct then yes, but not sure.

 

[Redt2go]

If i'm correct then yes, but not sure.

Posted 4 days ago... I can't tell if I'm overly sensitive and overreacting but this makes me really sad ... He's so powerless ...

 

[uiop]

Posted 4 days ago... I can't tell if I'm overly sensitive and overreacting but this makes me really sad ... He's so powerless ...

I try to see the good in people, and I truly want to believe that nobody can be this coldhearted. I'm still trying to make sense as to why someone in a position of power can be so hateful. He's a police officer; he's supposed to be keeping people safe. This is just a speculation, but I think something awful happened to him on the job, and, as repulsive as it is, this is how he copes with the trauma. He needs help.

 

[Angst Filled Fuck Up]

I try to see the good in people, and I truly want to believe that nobody can be this coldhearted. I'm still trying to make sense as to why someone in a position of power can be so hateful. He's a police officer; he's supposed to be keeping people safe. This is just a speculation, but I think something awful happened to him on the job, and, as repulsive as it is, this is how he copes with the trauma. He needs help.

If by help you mean inserting a large pole into his backside, then absolutely. I'm tired of these incorrigible assholes with a chip on their shoulder, trying to mouth off behind the safety of the badge to impress their loser cop buddies. This isn't trauma, it's pure evil.

 

[TAW122]

Ugh, this is just cold-hearted and I'm glad that the cop got charged and sentenced to more than five years in prison. Cops like him give all the other cops a bad name.

 

[Mr. Hang Man]

Ugh, this is just cold-hearted and I'm glad that the cop got charged and sentenced to more than five years in prison. Cops like him give all the other cops a bad name.

Honestly, I don't necessarily like cops but I see thier necessity in society. This cop was an absolute asshole for doing what he did, especially to someone who most likley already had a low self esteem to start with. What made it worse was that smile the officer with the camera was doing, like he's doing a favor for the community.

 

[color_me_gone]

this is how he copes with the trauma

Nop! This cop is 100% sack of garbage.
He was stealing drugs from crime scenes, to resell.
That is why he is going to prison.
Nothing redeemable about him.
I hope he goes to a prison with hardened criminals.
When the hardened criminals learn of what he has done, he will not live long.
Good riddance!

 

[snowman626]

I try to see the good in people, and I truly want to believe that nobody can be this coldhearted. I'm still trying to make sense as to why someone in a position of power can be so hateful. He's a police officer; he's supposed to be keeping people safe. This is just a speculation, but I think something awful happened to him on the job, and, as repulsive as it is, this is how he copes with the trauma. He needs help.

what he needs is a taste of his own medicine. i hope he gets a good pounding in prison that will wipe that stupid smile off his face.

things like this just enforces what I already know, that the system as a whole is not there to help you, it's there to ensure you suffer. this is why they treat people who wants suicide badly. if you live = you have to suffer more. if you die = no more suffering. pro life means pro suffering, they don't give a shit about you, they just want to keep you around so you can keep on suffering while they laugh and enjoy seeing you in pain. this is how evil this world is.

 

[uiop]

If by help you mean inserting a large pole into his backside, then absolutely. I'm tired of these incorrigible assholes with a chip on their shoulder, trying to mouth off behind the safety of the badge to impress their loser cop buddies. This isn't trauma, it's pure evil.

The strategies we use to manage our agonizing experiences are different for everyone. As a single individual, I would never do something that cop did, even if I had that position of power. But I feel that it is important that we do not reason about his actions through black and white thinking - it is a very dangerous way of interpreting the world. Cops risk their lives everyday, even for others. I cannot fathom how many life threatening / stupid shit they've experience on a daily basis. They need a way to unwind and let the stress go, and as socially abhorrent as it may be, they need to release all those pent-up emotions somehow.

I'm not condoning this man's action, I'm just trying to see it from his perspective, and make interpretations given the information I have, because that's all I can do.

Nop! This cop is 100% sack of garbage.
He was stealing drugs from crime scenes, to resell.
That is why he is going to prison.
Nothing redeemable about him.
I hope he goes to a prison with hardened criminals.
When the hardened criminals learn of what he has done, he will not live long.
Good riddance!

It here nothing anybody can do to help him? Given his age, I understand that it may be too late for him. As much as want to I hate the man, all I can feel is sorrow, both for the patient and the cop.

I want to believe that all people are born good in this world. I want to believe that babies come to this world undisposed to innatism. They come out of their mother wombs with a "blank slate", without an understanding of the ideas of morality. It is through life experiences, and what they learned from their social institutions, that their moral compass begins to mature, ultimately dictating their actions. Instead of punishing an individual, I feel that we should examine society. I understand that incarnation is easy: it separates the criminals from the 'normals', but it's only a bandaid.

I believe that someone could have prevented this incident. Individuals learn the normative culture by way of schools, family, peers, and the media. Yes he is a despicable person, a disgrace to humankind, his actions unforgivable. Yet I feel that by examining his past relative to his choice of law enforcement, and finally correlating the data we collected, we can come to an understanding of his situation.

I don't hate the cop as much as you guys do. I don't know how I should be feeling. I just want to understand. I want to cry, and almost did after watching the video, but the meds are preventing me to do so.

Again, I am sorry for the long and wordy replies. I know most of you guys will not read this, but it doesn't matter to me: I need an outlet to figure out my thoughts and express my emotions.

 

[FTL.Wanderer]

A lot of us have shared on this site and elsewhere about our experiences with the police and the "mental health" services on being forcibly committed. People almost never believe us. Until it happens to them.

This is terrible. I don't understand why anyone would do that. It's painful to watch. You could see the blood splatter while the cop was hitting him....

This is what we citizens have allowed, that those we fund with our tax dollars get to break the law indiscriminately and be protected while doing it. We're enabling this.

I try to see the good in people, and I truly want to believe that nobody can be this coldhearted. I'm still trying to make sense as to why someone in a position of power can be so hateful. He's a police officer; he's supposed to be keeping people safe. This is just a speculation, but I think something awful happened to him on the job, and, as repulsive as it is, this is how he copes with the trauma. He needs help.

SCOTUS ruled 2005 that US police EVERYWHERE do NOT have any constitutional duty to protect citizens. No one cared. We got the government we allowed.

 

[Psilo]

WTF?

 

[Memento Mori]

This is what we citizens have allowed, that those we fund with our tax dollars get to break the law indiscriminately and be protected while doing it. We're enabling this.

we can't sort out all the bad ones so we either live with them or completely live without police. dunno how anarchy would end up, guess we have to drink the less bitter poison for the greater good or some shit like that

 

[drakewantstogo]

What the fuck.

Fuck cops. 1312.

 

[Ruffian]

Fuck the police comin straight outta Compton. NWA was right.

 

[color_me_gone]

As much as want to I hate the man, all I can feel is sorrow

You are a better person than me!
I congratulate you on that. :)

 

[uiop]

You are a better person than me!
I congratulate you on that. :)

Then why do I feel worthless all the time..? ):

This is what we citizens have allowed, that those we fund with our tax dollars get to break the law indiscriminately and be protected while doing it. We're enabling this.

As much as I would like to somehow reverse all of this, I do not think it is possible to go back to our primitive ways before the abomination of organized modern society. Humans, by nature, are social animals. We learn from history that we can achieve more when we cooperate with one another. Given a group of anarchists, there will always be a leader - whether formal or informal - and he/she assumes responsibility for the community, and gains influence by means of rationality, patriarchy, or charisma. Overtime, this community will establish some sort of government. Although I agree with you that we, as a society, allowed this to happen, I posit that seeking leadership is an innate part of us. We need guidance, a will to live, and people to learn from, even if all of it is an illusion.

SCOTUS ruled 2005 that US police EVERYWHERE do NOT have any constitutional duty to protect citizens. No one cared. We got the government we allowed.

Sadly, there exists a social contract between the members of civil society and the government entity. With reference to that contract, we can assume the exchange between citizens and government exists by way of a two way street. The members of society surrender certain rights to the governmental institutions by means of taxation, which ultimately provides funding for the federal agencies. In return, those agencies - to maintain order - provide to the citizens protection to their remaining civil rights, distributing those liberties as widely as possible relative to the amendments delineated in the Constitution.

I was wrong to say that a police officer's job was to keep people safe. Thank you for addressing the error. I am not familiar with the Supreme Court's ruling in 2005, but I'll read up on it. But I am familiar with the late 1900s court case Warren v. District of Columbia. The court ruled that the police are not obligated to help any particular individual; they have a duty to protect society as a whole. When individuals decide to become police officers, they do not relinquish the social contract that exists between citizens and government; rather, they take on extra responsibilities to protect the social system. It is their duty to protect society as a whole, so they should not be required the risk their lives for a single person / group of people unless for it's for self-defense. They are humans like everybody else. They are are allowed to make sentient decisions to preserve their lives.

But yes, fuck that guy.

EDIT: why are my posts so long and convoluted all the time? I'll try to keep my sentences short and to the point next time, promise!

 

[FTL.Wanderer]

we can't sort out all the bad ones so we either live with them or completely live without police. dunno how anarchy would end up, guess we have to drink the less bitter poison for the greater good or some shit like that

We don't have to sort out the bad ones. We simply have to hold officers and court officials (lawyers, judges...) to the same or higher standards as/than the rest of us are held to. I've had enough experiences with police to be confident there's a broad feeling of entitlement to break the very laws they're enforcing (or to not even know what the law is) because they don't have to fear the repercussions.

 

[Ruffian]

If by help you mean inserting a large pole into his backside, then absolutely. I'm tired of these incorrigible assholes with a chip on their shoulder, trying to mouth off behind the safety of the badge to impress their loser cop buddies. This isn't trauma, it's pure evil.

Evil is exactly what is - it is inexcusable and makes me so angry. Unfortunately I have dealt with the police A LOT. No, not for MAJOR crimes or anything, but I've had a lot of car accidents, I have been arrested, and here if you call for ambulance (or someone calls to try to have you committed, or you call the paramedics if you feel suicidal, but don't want to actually do it) the police show up first. Any time I had a "mental health emergency," they were unbelievably nice. Even when I was in a pretty bad accident that was eventually deemed my fault, the cop was telling me not to worry, it was a bad intersection, and other stuff to calm me down. Now as a rule, I would rather not deal with them and have had them be really nasty when they've pulled me over. But this is unbelievable. Yes, this is so evil it's unreal. I hope he gets charged with assault in addition to his other charges, but I think the police are like education. It's all who you know.

 

[HelensNepenthe]

They shouldn't have sent him to a federal prison. People in the State would have fucked his day up.

 

[Weeping Garbage Can]

Even if that patient (which is laying down, obviously not a fucking threat or nuisance to anyone) was causing a disturbance, the way those two policemen went about it was completely unprofessional. Slaps weren't necessary, the "bitch" slur wasn't necessary, I don't care if the patient was "asking for it". I wonder what would have happened if this wasn't recorded; would the hospital staff just let this happen? And what about the chief officer; what would their reaction be? (sorry for this verbose response, I'm trying to get my thoughts together).