Story Rape in Hamas captivity

[Pessimist]

It was already known and female hostages who were released talked about it... but I hope the stories can reach more people now.

 

[Pathetic and Sad]

Brother, are you Israel's propaganda tool in SaSu? You entire post history is about simping Israel, at least ty to make it a bit subtle.

 

[Pessimist]

Brother, are you Israel's propaganda tool in SaSu? You entire post history is about simping Israel, at least ty to make it a bit subtle.

I live in Israel so the war affects me, but I'm currently against a continuation of the war, and I prefer a sustainable deal with Hamas. I think it's safe to say that Benjamin Netanyahu is a war criminal, but I can also understand wanting a very big war when your enemies are Islamist terrorist groups that just massacred and kidnapped a lot of people.

 

[Pathetic and Sad]

Like I understand wanting to post things happening in your country, but like why here? 99% of those in this site care little about the war and you will get like, I dunno 5 interested audience following you post? If you really wanna do it do it on places like reddit or twitter were hundreds will interact with you post. I think that will generate much more impact than making 5 people here sympathize to you cause.

 

[wristcutangel]

why even post propaganda on sasu of all places why spread awareness in a group where people are only there because they wanna die.

 

[Pessimist]

Like I understand wanting to post things happening in your country, but like why here?

We are in the political section of the offtopic forum.

why even post propaganda on sasu of all places why spread awareness in a group where people are only there because they wanna die.

Why are you in the political section of the offtopic forum?

 

[Pathetic and Sad]

We are in the political section of the offtopic forum.

Why are you in the political section of the offtopic forum?

No, you account seems quite suspicious. Like I can't see a single suicide related post while there are hundreds of post related to this conflict. But yea, you do you ig. I just found your conduct interesting and that's it.

 

[todienomore]

This hasbara has been brutally debunked in the last for months, see



If you dont have a twitter account this is the same thread https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1793321389518176440.html?utm_campaign=topunroll

Israeli propagandist behind Hamas ‘mass rape’ narrative exposed as grifter, fraud - The Grayzone

Cochav Elkayam-Levy, the Israeli lawyer at the center of the campaign accusing Hamas of systematic sexual violence on October 7, now stands accused by Israeli media of scamming donors and spreading misinformation. The allegations appeared just days after Elkayam-Levy received the prestigious...

thegrayzone.com

In one short video


The deepest irony perhaps is that these girls would have been observing and reporting the build up to the attack for months. They were sacrificed by their own government, Israel supported Hamas and the attack to achieve a specific outcome:

This Israeli made a documentary about ziontologist insanity in 2009.

Kids are brainwashed into this starting with the no-anaesthesia circumcision. Circumcisions cause brain damage and extreme trauma when a baby should be bonding with the mother.

 

[Pessimist]

This hasbara has been brutally debunked in the last for months, see

Yeah, Hamas is known for only kidnapping soldiers...

 

[todienomore]

Yea both sides have committed war crimes. Ironically Israel probably blew those kids away with friendly fire on October 7 or with months AI directed bombing:

Hannibal Directive - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

‘Lavender’: The AI machine directing Israel’s bombing spree in Gaza

The Israeli army has marked tens of thousands of Gazans as suspects for assassination, using an AI targeting system with little human oversight and a permissive policy for casualties, +972 and Local Call reveal.

www.972mag.com

Haaretz confirms Grayzone reporting it dismissed as ‘conspiracy’ showing Israel killed own festivalgoers - The Grayzone

Haaretz has yet to admit it jumped the gun when it dismissed The Grayzone’s Max Blumenthal as a ‘conspiracy theorist’ for documenting crucial evidence that Israeli forces killed Israelis on October 7. But new reports by the same outlet show we were right all along. Israeli outlet Haaretz has...

thegrayzone.com

Israeli October 7 posterchild was killed by Israeli tank, eyewitnesses reveal - The Grayzone

Eyewitnesses to the October 7 hostage standoff in Kibbutz Be'eri have exposed Israel for misleading the world about the killings of 12-year-old Liel Hetzroni, her family and her neighbors. Update: A video transcript of Yasmin Porat's testimony translated by David Sheen for Electronic Intifada...

thegrayzone.com

Yes as this israeli born professor explains you are locked into competitive victimhood psychosis (video below)

Israel wanted/kept Hamas in power and let the attacks happen. Its explained at length in one of those threads in my previous post.



"There is a trauma response playing on both sides. Israel is a product of the Holocaust and the Palestinians have their Naqba.

The Israeli-Palestinian conflict is a form of competitive victimhood: a clash between two entitled and self-centred dysempathic victimhood movements.

Like every conflict in history, it gives rise to:

Paranoid ideation and conspiracism

Narcissistic defenses (cognitive distortions such as grandiosity),

Impaired reality testing,

Magical thinking,

Splitting (dichotomous thinking): We are all good, our enemies are all bad.

Reactance (defiance and contumaciousness),

Recklessness,

Mood lability and emotional dysregulation,

Suicidal ideation coupled with religious righteousness (Masada, shahada)

The parties to the conflict abuse and manipulate each other by

externalizing aggression,

gaslighting,

and projective identification (provoking the other party to behave in a way that conforms to expectations and negates a negative self-image)."


'You cant argue with crazy/stupid' is one of my life rules, so I will not continue to post in this thread. We don't exist in the same reality. You had the most kafkaesque, totalitarian cult in the world dropped on your heads for centuries, I actually feel sorry for y'all.

No one will read something this long, but here is a sephardic jewish community leader from nyc explaining how ashkenazi rabbinic judaism made a tradition reinterpreting religious laws with endless word games, 'pilpul.' Im not gonna argue with people who literally trained for centuries in psychotic abuse, who think they can trick god, and that god wants them to perform a long list of commandments (mitzvahs) so that daddy will come back--

Pilpul

PILPUL as a Psychological Disorder

groups.google.com

beating a goose to fullfil a mitzvah https://matzav.com/lakewood-police-...laims-children-were-beating-the-mother-goose/

tricking god with a wire

The Men Who Fix Manhattan's Symbolic Shabbat Boundaries

Maintaining one very long wire that defines a holy space.

www.atlasobscura.com

Here is another good documentary

Have fun killing Esau, erasing Amalek, or whatever bronze age millenarian nonsense you are trying to fulfill.

 

[Blue Elephant]

Reported! From my point of view propaganda should not be posted here on this forum.

 

[Hvergelmir]

The Israeli-Palestinian conflict is a form of competitive victimhood: a clash between two entitled and self-centred dysempathic victimhood movements.

I will not dig into all the sources, but I'd like to show my appreciation for your attempt to provide a factual and balanced view.

Reported! From my point of view propaganda should not be posted here on this forum.

I sympathize with you reporting it, giving the mods a chance to judge. Publicly announcing it is just asking for drama, though.

 

[Blue Elephant]

I will not dig into all the sources, but I'd like to show my appreciation for your attempt to provide a factual and balanced view.

I sympathize with you reporting it, giving the mods a chance to judge. Publicly announcing it is just asking for drama, though.

Negative! This is not about drama! If I get attacked I will not engage.

The reason I annouce it is because some people don't report bad things unless they see others do it first. I do this in the physical realm as well and this is how I get support for my actions. You have no idea how scared some people are to ask for help from the police or report other crimes or injustices.

This is also a warning for the offenders.

 

[Pessimist]

Yea both sides have committed war crimes.

So why did you post a video of the Tantura massacre? It happened a century ago. That's like talking about Re'im music festival massacre and bringing up the 1929 Hebron massacre instead. Also the Islamists of Hamas are not trying to hide their crimes of genocidal rape and massacre; this is just a confession from today:



And here are many more:

Mass Rapes | Hamas Massacre

www.hamas-massacre.net

So maybe you can ask them to do a better job and try to hide it instead of being proud of it.

Reported! From my point of view propaganda should not be posted here on this forum.

Denouncing militant Islamist jihadism isn't propaganda.

No, you account seems quite suspicious. Like I can't see a single suicide related post while there are hundreds of post related to this conflict. But yea, you do you ig. I just found your conduct interesting and that's it.

Search better. I joined this website three years ago. You joined it three days ago.

 

[Pessimist]

Also, for all the people talking about alleged friendly fire from the IDF on October 7... are you aware that Islamist terrorists in Gaza are killing their own people very often? So I guess the civilian casualties should be blamed on them?

 

[Hvergelmir]

Denouncing militant Islamist jihadism isn't propaganda.

Well... it could be.
"The systematic propagation of a doctrine or cause or of information reflecting the views and interests of those advocating such a doctrine or cause." - The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition
You're definitely systematically propagating information reflecting your views and interest, but I'm not really sure about your doctrine or cause.

What is your intent with this thread, though? What value does this presentation of war crimes provide to the SaSu demographic, or yourself?
If we understand the threads intent we might be able to provide more valuable input.

 

[Pessimist]

Well... it could be.
"The systematic propagation of a doctrine or cause or of information reflecting the views and interests of those advocating such a doctrine or cause." - The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition
You're definitely systematically propagating information reflecting your views and interest, but I'm not really sure about your doctrine or cause.

What is your intent with this thread, though? What value does this presentation of war crimes provide to the SaSu demographic, or yourself?
If we understand the threads intent we might be able to provide more valuable input.

My intent is to discuss Hamas, the war in Gaza, etc. That's why I'm in the political section of the offtopic forum.

@todienomore Hamas referring to the Israeli women as sexual slaves has not been debunked. "Sabaya" means sexual slaves in Islam, and it's popular among jihadis.

 

[todienomore]

https://translate.google.com/?sl=ar&tl=en&text=%D8%B3%D8%A8%D8%A7%D9%8A%D8%A7&op=translate

more insanity

The Gonzo Insanity of 1960s Israeli Holocaust Porn - Flashbak

Stalag fiction was perhaps the ultimate taboo-busting literature: Holocaust pornography.

flashbak.com

The Child-Rape Assembly Line

Rabbi Nuchem Rosenberg—who is 63 with a long, graying beard—recently sat down with me to explain what he described as a "child-rape assembly line" among sects of fundamentalist Jews.

www.vice.com

 

[Pathetic and Sad]

So why did you post a video of the Tantura massacre? It happened a century ago. That's like talking about Re'im music festival massacre and bringing up the 1929 Hebron massacre instead. Also the Islamists of Hamas are not trying to hide their crimes of genocidal rape and massacre; this is just a confession from today:



And here are many more:

Mass Rapes | Hamas Massacre

www.hamas-massacre.net

So maybe you can ask them to do a better job and try to hide it instead of being proud of it.

Denouncing militant Islamist jihadism isn't propaganda.

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Search better. I joined this website three years ago. You joined it three days ago.

Wow, you lost me when you showed the Hamas Charter 1988. Intentionally covering some information to meet your narrative, if that's not propaganda then I dunno what is. The latest Hamas Charter is 2017.

 

[Pessimist]

The Gonzo Insanity of 1960s Israeli Holocaust Porn - Flashbak

Stalag fiction was perhaps the ultimate taboo-busting literature: Holocaust pornography.

flashbak.com

The Child-Rape Assembly Line

Rabbi Nuchem Rosenberg—who is 63 with a long, graying beard—recently sat down with me to explain what he described as a "child-rape assembly line" among sects of fundamentalist Jews.

www.vice.com

You have perverted sexual interests.

Wow, you lost me when you showed the Hamas Charter 1988. Intentionally covering some information to meet your narrative, if that's not propaganda then I dunno what is. The latest Hamas Charter is 2017.

It's the same jihadist policies written in a "politically correct" manner.






Next thing they need to do is to change the emblem of the Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades, because it looks too aggressive in the eyes of the Western leftist.





@todienomore also, do you want a list of all the Israeli women and girls who were raped and murdered by Palestinians before October 7? Because that would be a huge list, and it would also include children like 8-year-old Lipaz Himi who was brutally raped and murdered by a Palestinian. That's not a new tactic for their Islamist cause.

 

[Pessimist]

 

[Coconut blue]

SaSu isn't a platform for political debates, and most of the users here aren't that passionate about politics, much less the Israel/hamas situation. i'd say your time can be better used doing hasbara on more mainstream platforms if your goal is to improve israel's reputation among the public...

 

[Pessimist]

SaSu isn't a platform for political debates, and most of the users here aren't that passionate about politics

Why are you in the political section of the offtopic forum if you're not interested in politics?

 

[LilysAngel]

The world makes me sick.

 

[Coconut blue]

Why are you in the political section of the offtopic forum if you're not interested in politics?

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i follow these fopics personally but my point is they're not the focus of this forum, most users come on here because they're dealing with suicidal ideation or are experiencing an emotional crisis. i doubt many ppl in that state of mind would give a damn abt terrorism happening halfway across the world. I'm assuming your purpose is to get more ppl to see why hamas is bad/why we should support israel (?) personally im not pro Israel but since your post history is centered around these topics and you don't talk about much else it might be a better idea to move the content to a different platform where you'd get more meaningful engagement. i do see interaction and discussion going on here but just saying debating ppl who are anti israel on reddit or x or smth is probably gonna contribute more to the cause of your country

 

[Pessimist]

i follow these fopics personally but my point is they're not the focus of this forum, most users come on here because they're dealing with suicidal ideation or are experiencing an emotional crisis. i doubt many ppl in that state of mind would give a damn abt terrorism happening halfway across the world. I'm assuming your purpose is to get more ppl to see why hamas is bad/why we should support israel (?) personally im not pro Israel but since your post history is centered around these topics and you don't talk about much else it might be a better idea to move the content to a different platform where you'd get more meaningful engagement. i do see interaction and discussion going on here but just saying debating ppl who are anti israel on reddit or x or smth is probably gonna contribute more to the cause of your country

I called Benjamin Netanyahu a war criminal, so I'm not as pro-Israel as you might think. I also joined the website because of suicidal ideation, but after more than three years of being here, it's no longer the only thing I talk about. You have joined SS this month so that's probably why you're surprised to see different topics being discussed here.

 

[Coconut blue]

I called Benjamin Netanyahu a war criminal, so I'm not as pro-Israel as you might think. I also joined the website because of suicidal ideation, but after more than three years of being here, it's no longer the only thing I talk about. You have joined SS this month so that's probably why you're surprised to see different topics being discussed here.

I'm not surprised at seeing offtopic/politics-related discussions on Sasu. just saying you're probably gonna contribute more at making israel more popular internationally if you debate your stance on the israel palestine issue on mainstream platforms meant for political discourse. I'm not invalidating your argument or your right to post here, i do think its good we can find a diversified content on this forum

 

[Pessimist]

just saying you're probably gonna contribute more at making israel more popular internationally if you debate your stance on the israel palestine issue on mainstream platforms meant for political discourse.

Good thing that's not what I want to do, I'm not some paid propaganda activist.

 

[ironically living]

I am politically neutral on the war, however I find it absurd that so many people are attacking @Pessimist just for posting about politics in a section about discussing politics. It is "Offtopic", so it doesn't matter what SaSu is about, this is the offtopic category, and it is in the politics section. (I will not be responding to replies to this, I do not wish to get into arguments)

 

[LilysAngel]

i follow these fopics personally but my point is they're not the focus of this forum, most users come on here because they're dealing with suicidal ideation or are experiencing an emotional crisis. i doubt many ppl in that state of mind would give a damn abt terrorism happening halfway across the world. I'm assuming your purpose is to get more ppl to see why hamas is bad/why we should support israel (?) personally im not pro Israel but since your post history is centered around these topics and you don't talk about much else it might be a better idea to move the content to a different platform where you'd get more meaningful engagement. i do see interaction and discussion going on here but just saying debating ppl who are anti israel on reddit or x or smth is probably gonna contribute more to the cause of your country

If says you've been in this website for like a week. Respectfully, do you know the culture of the website? Arguable, SaSu is a lot more than dealing with an emotional crisis.

I do not think that censoring what people feel the need to talk about on SaSu, or posting something that is important to them & making them feel bad about it is a wonderful idea. Like if you don't give a shit about the thread topic, that's fine. But why come on here and make someone feel bad about it?

OP, you did nothing wrong. I'm sorry the thread has turned into this.