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PleaseHelpMi

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Dec 16, 2022
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So I am planning on ordering SN from 2 different places. Not sure which one is reliable. Both might be unreliable. Still I want to hope atleast one of them is and so when I do get them and try to ctb i want to make things 100% sure. I have read many threads here and so I know most things but still I want to clarify them since there have been some contradictory stuff too. First main questions though -
1) How do I weigh SN without the small gram weighing machine? I have a weighing machine the large one for human use. Do i use it to measure empty glass? Then glass + sn and subtract the difference to get sn weight? How accurate will that be? Is there a better method? I have a way to measure water levels using cooking spoons.
2) I am currently in talks with someone to partner with for ctb. Hopefully it works out. So I'll need to store the sn for some time. I plan on using a drawer that I never open in my cupboard to store it. Is there a better place? And should i wrap it in a polythene to make sure no moisture goes inside? Or something else?
3) When I do get to using it i plan on conducting a blood test beforehand. From what i saw on the thread that's in the suicide resource compilation the blood turns from red to completely brown like chocolate. But from other threads i have seen blood just turning a little brown or light brown and some with mixture of brown and red. How brown does it need to be ideally? Also if i mix a bit extra blood with little sn or a bit extra sn with little sn what color is it supposed to be? It's a bit hard to mix it perfectly.
4) after blood test how long before sn goes bad? I live in a fairly humid country. I plan on using it within 10-12 hours of blood test though.
5) the amount mentioned in Stan's guide is 20-25 mg in 50ml. The solubility of sn in water at room temperature is 84.2g/100ml which means mixing 40g in 50 ml should be good. Isn't it more sn better chances? Atleast that's what I was planning before reading Stan's guide. I was actually planning on mixing 170g in 200ml and then drinking as much as i could before feeling the need to vomit. Now i plan on making 4 glasses of 50ml. and mixing atleast 30g in each. Should I go for 40g instead or stick to 30g?
6) also i plan on drinking a glass and waiting 30s - 1min and seeing if i feel like vomiting and if not then drink another glass. Similarly if i vomit then drink another glass and wait for 30s - 1min and then drink another glass. Basically have two glasses worth of sn. If I initially don't vomit it's fine to do it this way but if I do vomit then should i not force two more glasses and instead drink one more only?
7) The fast. I am on a two time diet daily. I have breakfast at 10-10;30am and dinner at 5:30-6pm. I drink a bit of juice and eat some biscuits at 8am and 2pm. I thought that i would only eat the 8am juice and biscuits and 10am breakfast and then wouldn't eat anything till i ctb around 11pm+. So a fast of 12+ hours. But it says that 4 hour fast is enough so should I eat dinner at 6pm and then ctb at 11pm+ or just the juice and biscuits at 2pm? Or maybe have an early dinner at 4-5?
8) should I follow 2 day regime or stat dose? I was planning on stat dose but which works better? Also is antacid no good anymore? I saw many posts debating it. I do plan on taking an antiemetic. Previously i only planned on that and sn. But now I guess adding paracetamol is good too. Right for paracetamol too i have the 650mg tablets. Will taking 1,300mg be bad? Should I look for 500mg tabs and take 1,000mg instead? Also for antiemetic i have domperidone. 30g of that is enough right? So 1 hour before paracetamol, 30 or 45 mins before antiemetic and then finally SN.
9) since loss of consciousness is not instant and some people have complained about panic etc i plan on reading a novel on my phone after taking everything. Will that be bad? Will that cause Loss of consciousness to be delayed or anything?
10) there are also reports of wetting the bed and sometimes even vomit and excretion after loss of consciousness. I don't want that but it can't be helped can it? But what if I survive? So should I cover the bed with something? Or in case of survival that doesn't happen? Since muscles don't loosen after death?


That's all for now. I have a few more but I don't want to turn this into a thread with no replies. In fact 10 questions is already too much i think. I am quite insecure and paranoid. I really want to succeed 100% since the consequences for failing are quite bad for my situation. So I hope people can answer these. Thank You in advance.
 
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Dubito

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Nov 5, 2022
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To question 1: better buy a kitchen scales. There are not expensive. Human scales are not accurate enough for low weight.
I have a way to measure water levels using cooking spoons.
Explain that more precise:)
To question 4: 10-12 hours should be no problem. You can close it again after the test.
 
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PleaseHelpMi

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Dec 16, 2022
550
To question 1: better buy a kitchen scales. There are not expensive. Human scales are not accurate enough for low weight.

Explain that more precise:)
I know about kitchen scales. Can't buy them though. Human scales are not accurate. Therefore I was asking for a method that doesn't involve scales. Some trick kind of thing. And i meant the measuring spoons and cup set. You can google the exact same words to find out what i mean.
 
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Dubito

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Nov 5, 2022
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You mean using a spoon measure things up? That should also work, but not so accurate. In the search you should find something about that.
To question 7: I will stop eating 8 hours before and stop drinking 2 hours before. But as Stan wrote everbody is different.
 
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PleaseHelpMi

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Dec 16, 2022
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You mean using a spoon measure things up? That should also work, but not so accurate. In the search you should find something about that.
To question 7: I will stop eating 8 hours before and stop drinking 2 hours before. But as Stan wrote everbody is different.
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I meant this. It is accurate to measure ml since that is what it is used for. I want to know how to measure grams without scales if possible. As for 7) I see. I too will probably then not have dinner and instead drink more juice have something light as a snack around 2 giving me 10-12 hours of fasting. And no water for 2 hours is fine. In fact I won't drink anything for 3-4 hours.
 
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Dubito

Student
Nov 5, 2022
192
Density of sn is 2,17g/cm3. 1ml=cm3
1ml of sn should be 2,17g sn.
But I would not recommend this method. Density can differ.
 
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jessisme

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Dec 3, 2022
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Why can't you purchase a scale that measures in grams? They're so cheap.
 
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FireWalkWithMe

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Jun 18, 2022
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You're overcomplicating things. Natural because of anxiety over the whole thing, but not a good idea.

For example, why are you changing the quantities? They're specified for a good reason, which is to do with weight and likelihood of vomiting. Changing the amount of SN and using 200ml is a really bad idea. What makes you think this is better than following instructions that have data points from many SN deaths?

Honestly, stick to what they say. They're given to help you. It's when people go off piste that undesired results happen.
 
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PleaseHelpMi

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Dec 16, 2022
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Density of sn is 2,17g/cm3. 1ml=cm3
1ml of sn should be 2,17g sn.
But I would not recommend this method. Density can differ.
Ah I see. I didn't think of this. Thanks for this. You are right density can differ though. But still it's nice to know an alternate method just in case.
Why can't you purchase a scale that measures in grams? They're so cheap.
The problem isn't cost. It's to do with being discreet. Though if there is no better alternative method i might buy one.
You're overcomplicating things. Natural because of anxiety over the whole thing, but not a good idea.

For example, why are you changing the quantities? They're specified for a good reason, which is to do with weight and likelihood of vomiting. Changing the amount of SN and using 200ml is a really bad idea. What makes you think this is better than following instructions that have data points from many SN deaths?

Honestly, stick to what they say. They're given to help you. It's when people go off piste that undesired results happen.
You are right. I already abandoned the 200ml idea. I was wondering between 30g and 40g. But I'll go with 30g then. Thanks for the advice. Any other suggestions or answers to other questions?
 
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