Protocol suggestions (SN)

[Disaster]

May I ask you to review my SN ideas? It's really hard to find people who really understand the topic, unfortunately.

Antiemetic: I can't source meto, so I will have to go with olanzapine. I took it before medically so it shouldn't cause anything serious.
I also have Xanax, and I could eat a whole package of it, as the PPH suggests, but I don't trust this guy who wrote PPH. How much Xanax will be okay?
I also have painkillers, some of them even contain tiny otc amounts of opioid.
I'm lost. Stan says painkiller 1 hour before, antiemetic 45 minutes before, but he suggests meto. It isn't clear to me at all how to chose the benzo dose and a time frame to take it and actually drink the SN, not just lose consciousness without drinking it. Any suggestions for a person who can feel something after half of a Xanax tablet?
For improving the comfort I have benzydamine spray to numb my tongue. I know that most of the puking comes from the poison, not the taste tho.

I also wonder if the prepared water solution could stay near the bed overnight, or would it degrade the nitrite.

 

[gizzreid]

i can't answer all of that cause i don't plan on taking anything but the SN but the solution will likely not work as well if it sits overnight. it's suggested you don't even open what the SN comes in until you're ready to use it

 

[Disaster]

i can't answer all of that cause i don't plan on taking anything but the SN but the solution will likely not work as well if it sits overnight. it's suggested you don't even open what the SN comes in until you're ready to use it

It's suggested that it may degrade after opening, but people opened like a week before and it was just fine

 

[gizzreid]

It's suggested that it may degrade after opening, but people opened like a week before and it was just fine

that's true, but i wouldn't know how it would work with an open glass of it. as far as CCS goes, it looks like a big pill bottle, so closing it probably helps save it. maybe use a bottle or something that you can close, like a water bottle.

 

[Georg]

It isn't clear to me at all how to chose the benzo dose and a time frame to take it and actually drink the SN, not just lose consciousness without drinking it.

Stan says to take the Benzos and pain killers one hour before drinking. You don't need special pain killers, just go with the ibu600. You should take Benzos as prescribed, in other words, as much as you took in the past and what made you feel comfy

 

[Disaster]

Stan says to take the Benzos and pain killers one hour before drinking. You don't need special pain killers, just go with the ibu600. You should take Benzos as prescribed, in other words, as much as you took in the past and what made you feel comfy

Thanks! Let me know if you'll encounter any info about the olanzapine as AE and about will-the-solution-be-good-overnight, okay?

 

[Georg]

olanzapine

That's ok. It's also mentioned in stans guide.

will-the-solution-be-good-overnight,

I am not sure about this. Stay safe and mix it fresh.

 

[TapeMachine]

I'm having an exceedingly tough time trying to concentrate today, so please be patient with my wording if it seems disorganized. Feel free to ask for clarification where needed.

1. As far as I understand, Olanzapine is a suitable substitute.

Here is a link comparing use of Olanzapine vs Metaclopramide: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23314603/

I think Olanzapine works better after it's had time to build in your system for a few days? Maybe try to search the forum or the internet for further details on that.

2. Shelf stability & solution stability of SN:
*link:

Sodium nitrite

Sodium nitrite | NaNO2 or NO2.Na or NNaO2 | CID 23668193 - structure, chemical names, physical and chemical properties, classification, patents, literature, biological activities, safety/hazards/toxicity information, supplier lists, and more.

pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

- Shelf-stability: "Very slowly oxidizes to nitrate in air."

- SN Solution stability: "Soln of sodium nitrite are unstable & should be prepared directly before use" (do not prepare SN solution and let it sit overnight.)