Pro lifer logic? Protect&cherish life? life is precious??

[Efilismislife]

Since i have many health issues. Lately i got new health issue and suffering more lose sleep, etc since 3 days ago i cant take it anymore. But the cause is still unknown. So i search for help, ask people, try to find a way. Life really sucks! Its like a curse. You cant even choose/refuse to be put into this misery life.

Anyway, the point is im confused about some people who are "pro lifer" instead of giving information or something at least not provoking more discomfort, only saying things like. "DONT THINK ABOUT IT JUST THINK POSITIVE! IF YOU HAVE POSITIVE THINKING YOU CAN BE GRATEFUL ABOUT ALL THE SUFFERINGS. JUST EMBRACE PAIN&ENJOY, I HAVE BEEN DYING ONCE BUT IM VERY STRONG THUS I CAN OVERCOME IT(THE FACT IS THAT BECAUSE THE HOSPITAL TREAT IT). I DONT THINK ABOUT IT AND JUST LET IT FLOW"

i dont get it. Whats the benefit in bragging saying you have very strong mind power thus can overcome all difficulties in life and supporting people to experience dying/tormented by pain? If youre so pro lifer why you support people dying/tortured? If you say life is precious why you say dying is good and you dont let people avoid being tortured by pain? Why you look down on people who refused to be tortured by this life issues?

Even im suicidal and they say theyre "pro lifer" but instead support people dying&tormented, while im being labelled negatively as suicidal still dont wanna be tormented and the reason im hopeless and want to escape is because of the pain in this life. I dont wanna be tormented is that so wrong?? Even animals dont want that. Dont force people to be grateful about being tortured?!

How could they treat suicide as a bad thing when they themselves support people being tormented? Really no logic.
big hypocrite.

I really wanna respond with "if youre so happy about dying why dont you ctb instead" but of course i just dont respond. I dont wanna get mock by talking about suicide.

Im really baffled by their logic. Its saddening why this world is like this this world isnt nice its cruel. They keep breeding new unlucky people and make those new unlucky people experience many sufferings and dying.

and those people being told they have to let themselves be tortured and grateful about it. Its sick!

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[Foreversad]

If lifes a gift i wanna give it back im allergic to peanuts

 

[Versailles]

It seems that the pro-life logic is quite empty, because in all cases they will always give the same argument, even the religious pro-life are worse.
They simply cannot accept that sometimes there are cases that have no solution.

 

[Foreversad]

It seems that the pro-life logic is quite empty, because in all cases they will always give the same argument, even the religious pro-life are worse.
They simply cannot accept that sometimes there are cases that have no solution.

One religious prolifer even told me to keep on living sick cause god tests me and if ctb ill die in hell .they defense it like its their life? Whats their problem ? Why are they so keen on deciding over our lives?

 

[Versailles]

One religious prolifer even told me to keep on living sick cause god tests me and if ctb ill die in hell .they defense it like its their life? Whats their problem ? Why are they so keen on deciding over our lives?

I suppose that religious pro-life believe that life is a cosmic test of universes created by God to satisfy their fetishistic desires.

 

[Foreversad]

I suppose that religious pro-life believe that life is a cosmic test of universes created by God to satisfy their fetishistic desires.

Indeed that seems quite sadistic .i blocked her .she was like ' what ? Nooo you are going to keep on living .r u stupid? God is going to punish u'
And at the same time this christian lady puts a ridicululous tone of these stuff woman put on her face WHILE RELIGIOUS and looks like a whore .but at least shes religious

 

[Efilismislife]

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I suppose that religious pro-life believe that life is a cosmic test of universes created by God to satisfy their fetishistic desires.

Oh yeah i forgot about that..thats just weird...that seems mental...thats insane! Why should people be glad being tortured??

"Bruh u mad..."

It seems that the pro-life logic is quite empty, because in all cases they will always give the same argument, even the religious pro-life are worse.
They simply cannot accept that sometimes there are cases that have no solution.

Some think theyre noble&strong&genius if they can have "positive thinking" and force to claim every disaster into "blessings" More like toxic positivity

 

[FuneralCry]

Life certainly is a curse, we did not ask for this life where there is unlimited potential for suffering. I see the whole 'just think positive' type thing as irrational, as to me I cannot be more positive without removing what is causing the negative emotions in the first place. It just invalidates our suffering.

 

[Foreversad]

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Oh yeah i forgot about that..thats just weird...that seems mental...thats insane! Why should people be glad being tortured??

"Bruh u mad..."

Some think theyre noble&strong&genius if they can have "positive thinking" and force to claim every disaster into "blessings" More like toxic positivity

TRUEEEEE

Life certainly is a curse, we did not ask for this life where there is unlimited potential for suffering. I see the whole 'just think positive' type thing as irrational, as to me I cannot be more positive without removing what is causing the negative emotions in the first place. It just invalidates our suffering.

They even called me crazy for wanting to not suffer. Complete idiots

 

[Alwaysbadtime]

My horrible parent said it's taking the easy way out. That it's not trying to make it better. I told them it's the hardest thing to do. Whatever. SO FUCKING PISSED EVERY FUCKING SECOND.

 

[Foreversad]

My horrible parent said it's taking the easy way out. That it's not trying to make it better. I told them it's the hardest thing to do. Whatever. SO FUCKING PISSED EVERY FUCKING SECOND.

What they believe ..they are not in a bad position .so they wont understand

 

[Pluto]

Religious people need to constantly reinforce their old ideas with black-and-white logic, as well as reaffirming their loyalty to their tribe for fear of being cast out.

Life=good, CTB=bad
Straight=good, LGBT=bad
Religious=good, secular=bad
etc.

They are not worth listening to as they are merely computers programmed to stubbornly repeat the same ill-conceived logic. They are intellectual zombies mass-manufactured by childhood brainwashing to bolster the political power of the groups they identify with. They are psychological children motivated by fear of the 'father' punishing them in the afterlife.

Instead, listen to people with something genuinely insightful to say, rare as they may be.

 

[Largeletters]

I think if most pro-lifers had been through what we have, they wouldn't be spewing the same "life is so precious, suicide is selfish, your existence is a gift" bullshit all the time.

 

[Ironweed]

FWIW, an attempt was made to "prove" suicide is a bad thing from a secular non-religious perspective in the book Stay: A History of Suicide and the Philosophies Against It, by Jennifer Michael Hecht. I personally found the book extremely unpersuasive, but I'm doubtless biased. And nowhere near as smart as Hecht, I'll freely concede. (I was so irritated by the book I actually started a rebuttal, but lost interest. And who the hell wants to read what I have to say, anyway?) Just mentioning it because others might be persuaded where I was not.

 

[insanedoomer]

well , they are trafficking humans after creating an illusion of life and beauty etc ... that's all , that is why .
they got payed by other parts .

 

[Apaturesuicience]

A lot of people have a difficult time thinking rationally about the idea of suicide. Between its culturally taboo nature as well as the fact that most people just don't like to think about death, its rare to find someone who has genuinely thought about the morality and ethics of suicide. Instead, most people cope with any discomfort risen from the thought of suicide by just saying its bad and moving on. Its easier for them to say " Life -> Good, Death -> Bad" than to really consider the situation and their values to see if it could be the correct decision.

As for religious people, a lot of them are convinced that telling others what to do is a good thing since they know what is "holy" or whatever. It doesn't matter to them if their beliefs are self-conflicting, since a lot of it is about emotion to them. They can be harder to deal with sometimes because they speak their mind, but challenging them on their thoughts can lead them to feeling personally attacked. (This is just a vocal subset of religious people as I have met lots of religious people who are much more caring and helpful.)

At the end of the day, don't let others beat you up because of your beliefs. Listening to others can be good to expand your knowledge, but if they are excessively mean to you just try to walk away and forget about it. I'm really sorry you are dealing with rude people, and I hope you find better people to spend time with.