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Hankybandit

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Greetings everyone.

I have nursed suicidal ideation for a long time, own the Peaceful Pill Handbook, and was pleasantly surprised when I stumbled upon these forums. Yes, I thought....*that's* the word for what I am. Not *pro-suicide*, pro-choice suicide. I believe people in chronic physical or mental pain should have the right to end their suffering peacefully, and I believe there can be many valid reasons to exercise the right.

Everyone has a story, and I thought I'd share mine. I'm not looking for validation or advice either way, and I realize that's not the point here, though I'd be open to perspectives. I've been perusing these forums about the stories on heartache, and that is a big part of my story. I have found a lot of wisdom here, especially in the idea that people experience pain in different ways and one kind doesn't take priority over another's.

I've always struggled with depression, but in the fall of 2015 I was diagnosed with bipolar disorder after experiencing a severe, months-long manic episode that involved pretty much every symptom, sleeping with strangers, spending myself into debt, staying up all night long, talking loudly and incessantly, sleeping like two hours a night. Work asked me to take FMLA because I was scaring people and I pretty much managed to isolate all my loved ones (other than a couple of friends and family who stuck by me) but most heartbreaking of all, the man I thought was the love of my life, who I verbally abused and kicked out of the house we shared together.

And if you have the disorder or know someone who does, you know what came next. The post-manic crash into bipolar depression. Boy, I thought I knew what depression was like before. No. This was the blackest, most consuming depression I had ever experienced. My only respite was to sleep, I struggled to get out of bed, still somehow managed to hold down my job but struggled to focus and concentrate, and I would just come back home and that was all the energy I had, lay down in my filthy bed in my filthy house again, cry, look at pictures of my ex, dream of death all day long. I tried OD'ing a couple of times, I think more than anything else as an escape from pain, though as most of us know OD'ing on pills and alcohol only usually just ends you in the psych ward for a time, which is what happened to me.

People told me I could recover from that, and I did have a partial recovery. The most amazing thing that happened is my boyfriend, my soulmate, my dream missed me too and forgave me, and even moved back in with me, even though I could have and probably should have fucked things up by texting him at every opportunity how much I missed him and and how sorry and regretful I was. Some friends came back into my life when they realized I wasn't being scary anymore. Some never did, and that hurts, but I have to accept my actions had consequences. I definitely passed through some of the blackness and became more functional for a time, but I never quite recovered from that incident.

I continued to experience sometimes profound depression, sometimes nightmares and PTSD about things that I did or what happened, that at times was incapacitating, to the point where I'd call in sick to work, lie in bed all day, not be able to self-care, practice good hygiene, or cook and clean. Those last two years and and my love were together are somewhat blurry to me. I swear I changed my meds so many times and tried every regimen under the sun, I did therapy and EMDR, I did inpatient and outpatient programs, I even tried electroconvulsive therapy (which I actually had a horrible experience of memory loss that sounds more severe than most cases, so I think it only ended up hurting matters).

My long-suffering boyfriend was the light and the love of my life this whole time. He was so generous and kind and he never gave up. He cooked and cleaned for me when I couldn't get out of bed. He came with me to therapy and psychiatry sessions and drove me an hour and a half to and from the only ECT clinic that would take my insurance. You probably see where this is going. He definitely gave too much.

I don't know what triggered it, I think it was a perfect storm of things. He left on a month-long trip and I became despondent, drank heavily, left the house a wreck, spent a lot of time in bed. I think I knew then I would lose him soon because I wasn't able to take care of myself. I loved him more than anything else in the world, but I kept telling him maybe this was unhealthy and he should leave, and he would never have any of it, he would hold me and tell me how much he loved me, he was never leaving me, how right it felt when we met, etc.

For some reason after he came back from that trip I went down a bad downward spiral, and even he lost his patience sometimes telling me I had to shower and wear clean clothes. I just started giving up. I have to acknowledge some was chemical but I probably could have done more. I think my ever-evolving meds were bad at the time, work was an incredibly toxic and stressful situation, a lot of things built up. I had a couple of ketamine treatments, having tried everything else under the sun, and though I had heard some amazing testimonials about it, I think like ECT it only made my situation worse. The ketamine somehow gave me really vivid, intense flashbacks to my manic episode. I just left feeling nothing had ever felt the same after that. I feel something died inside me in mid-2015 and since then I've been wading through molasses and nursing so much regret despite trying so hard. I've always been sensitive and could never seem to forget what a hurtful person I had been to my loved ones, and post-meds and ECT I just felt like a stupid, hollowed-out shell of the person I used to be. I really felt a mercy-killing would be best for all involved and my love and everyone else would be better off without me. I tried to go about acquiring N on the Internet and my ex found out I was doing it. He put me into the hospital and then he left me, saying he had done everything for me, and I had broken his heart.

I was devastated, but I understood his decision. I'm almost 40, was married once, and had a few serious relationships. But I knew the minute I met him, he was the love of my life. Every single cliche they have about love---about stars and fireworks and soulmates---I felt with him, instantly. I literally felt dizzy with joy and ecstasy for months afterwards. I would wake up in the morning and remember he existed and a flood of endorphins would wash over me. He was my perfect fit---very physically attractive, ridiculously smart and funny and kind. I felt attracted to him on a very cellular level that I never had with anyone. I was glowing and crowing at work and my boss asked me if I had a new boyfriend and I told her "No, I have a life partner." And all these things? He said all the same things back to me, all the time. He was an older man, almost 50, but would say nothing he'd ever had in his life compared to this, I was "the one," he wanted to commit to me forever.

After maybe a year of incredible infatuation, that did mute a little bit, but I think we still had an amazing relationship. I still felt I never wanted anyone else. We started living together and every night was filled with fun conversation, art, weird movies, and joy. I looked forward to coming home to him every night. Our sex life was still amazing. We were both artists and had many artistic partnerships, he had a gallery where we both displayed and we did other shows too, including with vintage and vinyl, which we both collected. We texted each other all day long, he'd send me pictures of our cats or his drawings he was working on, we never, ever fought or argued, we supported each other all the time. I sometimes try to think back to try not to idealize and put my finger on the "bad things" but I honestly feel like there were almost none. He smoked pot a lot, but I never cared. He even had really good breath all the time. I was drawn to him on every level.

This last year and a half has been torture for me. I thought my depression was bad before, but now I walk around the apartment and every little thing I see gives me a memory of him. It's a book we bought together, or a curtain he hung up. I feel like all the light and the joy and the color has left my life. People have told me over and over "the one" is a mythical thing, and I will meet others. But I'm 40, and the skeptic tells myself the odds of feeling that way again in my last 40 years of life are slim. It really felt pretty epic and magical, and I kind of *always* want it to feel that way. Maybe I want to punish myself, who knows.

I found out on New Year's Eve he proposed to another woman, and it absolutely broke me. He moved in with her about 2 months after moving out of our house, and I did some research (I'm a librarian and also crazy) and she's his ex of 20 years ago. Not only do I now know I have to spend the rest of my life knowing he's actually the love of someone *else's* life, but he always told me despite saying those things to me he never wanted to get married again, because he'd been married and divorced three times already (I know, some people told me that should have been a red flag). So it's kind of hard to believe I was all that special to him after all, and maybe I was the only one who actually felt that way....which made it hurt even worse.

Anyway! Goddamn I didn't mean this to turn into the novel that I did. Big picture is living with this heartbreak is hell, living alone in my filthy apartment is hell, living with bipolar disorder and the memories of things I did is hell. But I don't want to do the cliched thing of "dying of a broken heart." I guess my larger issue is the regret over hurting loved ones in the past, and the fear that I'm either going to break the heart of someone I love in the future, and I just can't imagine living without love. I hate suffering, and I hate making people worry because I suffer. My sister has told me she's spent numerous sleepless nights worrying about my suicidal tendencies.

I guess you could say this is all in the contemplation phase, I'm going to sleep on it a bit. I do have a lot going for me. I still make art and have an art studio. I'm a successful enough librarian. I'm in law school right now. Not to toot my own horn, but a lot of people say I'm smart and creative. I have two loving cats and I know my family loves me very much and that I am so lucky in that department, and I may have lost a lot of friends but the ones who have stuck by me are loyal and caring and true. I write about movies about mental illness and run a film festival about mental health. I don't suffer from any physical maladies and I feel blessed because I know people who have both. But I think I am going to try to procure that Holy Grail N if I can, because I would like this to be as peaceful as possible for both me and the ones who love me. It's just hard to live knowing how many people I've hurt and disappointed, including my love, and the some I may still.
 
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I'm sorry, didn't read everything, too much text. But I have questions, how about those without physical and mental illness, do they have right to die on their own terms?
 
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I am sorry you went through all this. I hope you find another love in your life, which is very much possible and wish you good luck in the law department of your life. It's a good thing that you have a hobby you are passionate about - art. :)
 
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All I can really do is offer you my deepest sympathies. Your story while not the sane as mine resonates with me. When I met my wife, if was online, and but even a dating site. And all it took was a picture to know she was do I wanted, if was a fight a long flight thanks to borders but we got to be together in the end. The day she left me as the day I died inside.

The little advise I have is that if you truly love him, then if he is happy without you, then that sound hello make you happy. Its never that easy though. Love is, the most beautiful thing in the world, the most soul crushing. If I were to offer you any advice out would be to learn to love yourself. The day I stopped caringing that my ex was come was the day she said hello. I'll never get what I had, more will you, but maybe just maybe things can get better? Only your can decided that for yourself though. Lily this community is amazing, even if I don't participate in it much.

I recommend buying the N but keeping it somewhere not easy to get. Sometimes just knowing your in control helps
 
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hi, your story really moved me.

These illnesses are so cruel, that we can lose relationships with people we love, and our behaviour and thoughts are out of our control and not how we would wish to be if we were well.

I also feel shame about how I acted - in my marriage - and how I treated my ex. It is a different story to yours, as I was always confused about whether or not I loved him, so yours to lose such a great love is more heart-breaking.

Saying that, you have so much going for you.

Like you, I also know who my good friends are after going through illness, and that is something to treasure.

I would do your best to give this time to heal and to forgive yourself. I do know what it is like to want to CTB, to want to erase the past. When I realised how mad I had been and how I had treated my ex, I felt so much shame and grief, and I still do often. I have joined Bipolar groups on Facebook, and see that other people have been through this too and it is really hard.

But forgive yourself. It sounds like your ex is doing okay, and it is also possible for you to heal and forgive yourself. You have been ill, but you have so much of your life ahead of you. I am 42. I lost my marriage, my job, my house all in last year due to mental illness, and I have spent the last year in bed with suicidal thoughts, but I am still doing my best to recover for the people that care about me. It was a lot to put my ex through - a suicidal wife with mood swings - so I wish him happiness now. We still love each other and we are friends, and that is the best I could have hoped for. It might not be possible for everyone, but I am so grateful for his support over the years and his kindness.

I am firmly pro choice when it comes to suicide, but I think there is a lot of hope for you with all the good things in your life. I am sure you will have relationships in future if you want them, and while the love might not be the same, you might just enjoy them immensely in a different way.

I have actually found more happiness since splitting up with my ex, and also a bigger commitment to finding treatment for myself, as I had been leaning on him too much, and not realising how ill I was. So I look for the silver linings. On that note, it might be too close to home, but Silver Linings Playbook is kind of the story of my life - like not exactly, but a little. It might be worth a read.

All best wishes, and keep talking to us.
Also, look for the days and moments where you think, I'm glad I stayed alive for this.

Even over the past year of being mainly bedridden, I did still have occasional glorious moments (mainly thanks to drugs or medication tbh) but even so, look for those.
 
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That is quite a deep and touching story. Sorry to hear about the rollercoaster of changes in your life. I do agree with you that people who are suffering from chronic pain be it physically or mentally should have the right to choose whether to continue to living or die peacefully. Sadly in society and the government we have in this world (especially in the US) does not recognize that right or even such a choice. It does everything it can to demonize and shun the choice to suicide while pushing "life is great" no matter the circumstances a person is going through, thus resulting in people like us who have made up their minds and have to keep quiet while secreting procuring a method, researching, continuing to dodge/evade others IRL who could intervene, and then going through with it while overcoming/suppressing the SI. CTB itself is no easy feat at all, even with the most reliable methods once still has to overcome the biological instinct to live. People oftenly naively claim that CTB is really 'easy' but that couldn't be further from the truth.

Also, I wish and hope you find the peace you are looking for, whether it is to continue fighting or giving up entirely.
 
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Greetings everyone.

I have nursed suicidal ideation for a long time, own the Peaceful Pill Handbook, and was pleasantly surprised when I stumbled upon these forums. Yes, I thought....*that's* the word for what I am. Not *pro-suicide*, pro-choice suicide. I believe people in chronic physical or mental pain should have the right to end their suffering peacefully, and I believe there can be many valid reasons to exercise the right.

Everyone has a story, and I thought I'd share mine. I'm not looking for validation or advice either way, and I realize that's not the point here, though I'd be open to perspectives. I've been perusing these forums about the stories on heartache, and that is a big part of my story. I have found a lot of wisdom here, especially in the idea that people experience pain in different ways and one kind doesn't take priority over another's.

I've always struggled with depression, but in the fall of 2015 I was diagnosed with bipolar disorder after experiencing a severe, months-long manic episode that involved pretty much every symptom, sleeping with strangers, spending myself into debt, staying up all night long, talking loudly and incessantly, sleeping like two hours a night. Work asked me to take FMLA because I was scaring people and I pretty much managed to isolate all my loved ones (other than a couple of friends and family who stuck by me) but most heartbreaking of all, the man I thought was the love of my life, who I verbally abused and kicked out of the house we shared together.

And if you have the disorder or know someone who does, you know what came next. The post-manic crash into bipolar depression. Boy, I thought I knew what depression was like before. No. This was the blackest, most consuming depression I had ever experienced. My only respite was to sleep, I struggled to get out of bed, still somehow managed to hold down my job but struggled to focus and concentrate, and I would just come back home and that was all the energy I had, lay down in my filthy bed in my filthy house again, cry, look at pictures of my ex, dream of death all day long. I tried OD'ing a couple of times, I think more than anything else as an escape from pain, though as most of us know OD'ing on pills and alcohol only usually just ends you in the psych ward for a time, which is what happened to me.

People told me I could recover from that, and I did have a partial recovery. The most amazing thing that happened is my boyfriend, my soulmate, my dream missed me too and forgave me, and even moved back in with me, even though I could have and probably should have fucked things up by texting him at every opportunity how much I missed him and and how sorry and regretful I was. Some friends came back into my life when they realized I wasn't being scary anymore. Some never did, and that hurts, but I have to accept my actions had consequences. I definitely passed through some of the blackness and became more functional for a time, but I never quite recovered from that incident.

I continued to experience sometimes profound depression, sometimes nightmares and PTSD about things that I did or what happened, that at times was incapacitating, to the point where I'd call in sick to work, lie in bed all day, not be able to self-care, practice good hygiene, or cook and clean. Those last two years and and my love were together are somewhat blurry to me. I swear I changed my meds so many times and tried every regimen under the sun, I did therapy and EMDR, I did inpatient and outpatient programs, I even tried electroconvulsive therapy (which I actually had a horrible experience of memory loss that sounds more severe than most cases, so I think it only ended up hurting matters).

My long-suffering boyfriend was the light and the love of my life this whole time. He was so generous and kind and he never gave up. He cooked and cleaned for me when I couldn't get out of bed. He came with me to therapy and psychiatry sessions and drove me an hour and a half to and from the only ECT clinic that would take my insurance. You probably see where this is going. He definitely gave too much.

I don't know what triggered it, I think it was a perfect storm of things. He left on a month-long trip and I became despondent, drank heavily, left the house a wreck, spent a lot of time in bed. I think I knew then I would lose him soon because I wasn't able to take care of myself. I loved him more than anything else in the world, but I kept telling him maybe this was unhealthy and he should leave, and he would never have any of it, he would hold me and tell me how much he loved me, he was never leaving me, how right it felt when we met, etc.

For some reason after he came back from that trip I went down a bad downward spiral, and even he lost his patience sometimes telling me I had to shower and wear clean clothes. I just started giving up. I have to acknowledge some was chemical but I probably could have done more. I think my ever-evolving meds were bad at the time, work was an incredibly toxic and stressful situation, a lot of things built up. I had a couple of ketamine treatments, having tried everything else under the sun, and though I had heard some amazing testimonials about it, I think like ECT it only made my situation worse. The ketamine somehow gave me really vivid, intense flashbacks to my manic episode. I just left feeling nothing had ever felt the same after that. I feel something died inside me in mid-2015 and since then I've been wading through molasses and nursing so much regret despite trying so hard. I've always been sensitive and could never seem to forget what a hurtful person I had been to my loved ones, and post-meds and ECT I just felt like a stupid, hollowed-out shell of the person I used to be. I really felt a mercy-killing would be best for all involved and my love and everyone else would be better off without me. I tried to go about acquiring N on the Internet and my ex found out I was doing it. He put me into the hospital and then he left me, saying he had done everything for me, and I had broken his heart.

I was devastated, but I understood his decision. I'm almost 40, was married once, and had a few serious relationships. But I knew the minute I met him, he was the love of my life. Every single cliche they have about love---about stars and fireworks and soulmates---I felt with him, instantly. I literally felt dizzy with joy and ecstasy for months afterwards. I would wake up in the morning and remember he existed and a flood of endorphins would wash over me. He was my perfect fit---very physically attractive, ridiculously smart and funny and kind. I felt attracted to him on a very cellular level that I never had with anyone. I was glowing and crowing at work and my boss asked me if I had a new boyfriend and I told her "No, I have a life partner." And all these things? He said all the same things back to me, all the time. He was an older man, almost 50, but would say nothing he'd ever had in his life compared to this, I was "the one," he wanted to commit to me forever.

After maybe a year of incredible infatuation, that did mute a little bit, but I think we still had an amazing relationship. I still felt I never wanted anyone else. We started living together and every night was filled with fun conversation, art, weird movies, and joy. I looked forward to coming home to him every night. Our sex life was still amazing. We were both artists and had many artistic partnerships, he had a gallery where we both displayed and we did other shows too, including with vintage and vinyl, which we both collected. We texted each other all day long, he'd send me pictures of our cats or his drawings he was working on, we never, ever fought or argued, we supported each other all the time. I sometimes try to think back to try not to idealize and put my finger on the "bad things" but I honestly feel like there were almost none. He smoked pot a lot, but I never cared. He even had really good breath all the time. I was drawn to him on every level.

This last year and a half has been torture for me. I thought my depression was bad before, but now I walk around the apartment and every little thing I see gives me a memory of him. It's a book we bought together, or a curtain he hung up. I feel like all the light and the joy and the color has left my life. People have told me over and over "the one" is a mythical thing, and I will meet others. But I'm 40, and the skeptic tells myself the odds of feeling that way again in my last 40 years of life are slim. It really felt pretty epic and magical, and I kind of *always* want it to feel that way. Maybe I want to punish myself, who knows.

I found out on New Year's Eve he proposed to another woman, and it absolutely broke me. He moved in with her about 2 months after moving out of our house, and I did some research (I'm a librarian and also crazy) and she's his ex of 20 years ago. Not only do I now know I have to spend the rest of my life knowing he's actually the love of someone *else's* life, but he always told me despite saying those things to me he never wanted to get married again, because he'd been married and divorced three times already (I know, some people told me that should have been a red flag). So it's kind of hard to believe I was all that special to him after all, and maybe I was the only one who actually felt that way....which made it hurt even worse.

Anyway! Goddamn I didn't mean this to turn into the novel that I did. Big picture is living with this heartbreak is hell, living alone in my filthy apartment is hell, living with bipolar disorder and the memories of things I did is hell. But I don't want to do the cliched thing of "dying of a broken heart." I guess my larger issue is the regret over hurting loved ones in the past, and the fear that I'm either going to break the heart of someone I love in the future, and I just can't imagine living without love. I hate suffering, and I hate making people worry because I suffer. My sister has told me she's spent numerous sleepless nights worrying about my suicidal tendencies.

I guess you could say this is all in the contemplation phase, I'm going to sleep on it a bit. I do have a lot going for me. I still make art and have an art studio. I'm a successful enough librarian. I'm in law school right now. Not to toot my own horn, but a lot of people say I'm smart and creative. I have two loving cats and I know my family loves me very much and that I am so lucky in that department, and I may have lost a lot of friends but the ones who have stuck by me are loyal and caring and true. I write about movies about mental illness and run a film festival about mental health. I don't suffer from any physical maladies and I feel blessed because I know people who have both. But I think I am going to try to procure that Holy Grail N if I can, because I would like this to be as peaceful as possible for both me and the ones who love me. It's just hard to live knowing how many people I've hurt and disappointed, including my love, and the some I may still.
That was a very heartfelt and well written story. I've not had much experience with people suffering from BPD, a little though. It must be hell with the ups and downs. Does the disorder effect how you have relationships? Maybe falling in love more intensely? I've never had such a close relationship which I regret dearly. I can see how that loss would be devastating, especially seeing all the things in the flat. Would moving help? You sound like a talented and articulate person and you really deserve to get beyond this if you can.
 
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I'm sorry, didn't read everything, too much text. But I have questions, how about those without physical and mental illness, do they have right to die on their own terms?

I apologize for the long rambling, I was tired and had had a lot of wine =)

I believe the right should exist for everyone. That's just been my own personal experience and bias since assisted suicide seems to generally be offered more to the terminally than mentally ill. I am genuinely curious what scenarios you are thinking of, though.
hi, your story really moved me.

These illnesses are so cruel, that we can lose relationships with people we love, and our behaviour and thoughts are out of our control and not how we would wish to be if we were well.

I also feel shame about how I acted - in my marriage - and how I treated my ex. It is a different story to yours, as I was always confused about whether or not I loved him, so yours to lose such a great love is more heart-breaking.

Saying that, you have so much going for you.

Like you, I also know who my good friends are after going through illness, and that is something to treasure.

I would do your best to give this time to heal and to forgive yourself. I do know what it is like to want to CTB, to want to erase the past. When I realised how mad I had been and how I had treated my ex, I felt so much shame and grief, and I still do often. I have joined Bipolar groups on Facebook, and see that other people have been through this too and it is really hard.

But forgive yourself. It sounds like your ex is doing okay, and it is also possible for you to heal and forgive yourself. You have been ill, but you have so much of your life ahead of you. I am 42. I lost my marriage, my job, my house all in last year due to mental illness, and I have spent the last year in bed with suicidal thoughts, but I am still doing my best to recover for the people that care about me. It was a lot to put my ex through - a suicidal wife with mood swings - so I wish him happiness now. We still love each other and we are friends, and that is the best I could have hoped for. It might not be possible for everyone, but I am so grateful for his support over the years and his kindness.

I am firmly pro choice when it comes to suicide, but I think there is a lot of hope for you with all the good things in your life. I am sure you will have relationships in future if you want them, and while the love might not be the same, you might just enjoy them immensely in a different way.

I have actually found more happiness since splitting up with my ex, and also a bigger commitment to finding treatment for myself, as I had been leaning on him too much, and not realising how ill I was. So I look for the silver linings. On that note, it might be too close to home, but Silver Linings Playbook is kind of the story of my life - like not exactly, but a little. It might be worth a read.

All best wishes, and keep talking to us.
Also, look for the days and moments where you think, I'm glad I stayed alive for this.

Even over the past year of being mainly bedridden, I did still have occasional glorious moments (mainly thanks to drugs or medication tbh) but even so, look for those.

Thank you for your kind and empathetic reply.

I think the hardest thing of all is the complete loss of his beautiful presence in my life. I miss him so much every day, I remember his eyes and his smile. I have tried to stop, but I can't. I kind of don't want to. I don't want to lose what I have left of him.

He told me afterward he would never stop loving me, he hadn't given up on me, that he wanted to paint with me again, and that he would never cut me out of his life. He continued to text me loving messages for about a month afterward, then there was complete radio silence. I'd try to text and he wouldn't respond. I figure it was due to the other woman since it happened slowly after he moved out to her (to another state, now they live in another city). Then I noticed he was deleting all the pictures of us together off Facebook. Finally in the new year he did the nuclear option and unfriended me on Facebook, so now I can't even keep up with him that way. And he proposed to her on NYE, so this all accords with the other woman theory. I guess I would not like my partner to be close to their ex, so it makes sense. I am just absolutely devastated that I will never get to see or talk to the person I loved more than I have anyone else in my life. Now I only have my memories and dreams, which I have frequently.

I think our stories are very similar. I still really suck at self-care, but I have had a few achievements I've been really proud of while single, like getting into school and the film festival and my art. And I'm glad he can be happy and not be my caretaker anymore, even if it's devastating he can never be a part of my life again. You know, if you love somebody, then set them free. Sigh.

Funny you mention Silver Linings Playbook, I've actually never read the book but I love the film. I actually write film reviews for a mental health and pop culture website and that was the last movie I wrote about, coincidentally. I'd post it here but it has my real name on it.
That was a very heartfelt and well written story. I've not had much experience with people suffering from BPD, a little though. It must be hell with the ups and downs. Does the disorder effect how you have relationships? Maybe falling in love more intensely? I've never had such a close relationship which I regret dearly. I can see how that loss would be devastating, especially seeing all the things in the flat. Would moving help? You sound like a talented and articulate person and you really deserve to get beyond this if you can.

Thank you for your kind words, and for reading the whole damn thing ;). . I don't really want to move, I love my apartment so much and have been there many years and it feels like home. I have been trying to change some things, but it's too damn expensive and hard to change everything. I have wondered sometimes if the intensity of that relationship was partially due to BPD, and I wouldn't be surprised if it was, though he seemed to return that intensity just as strongly. Lately I have told myself he probably did really feel that way at the time, even if my illness wore things down and drove us apart. It just seemed too real.
 
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Also, I don't think saying you believe something for a certain population should be true, doesn't necessarily mean you're saying you *don't* believe it is true for others, unless you specifically say so, or they are diametrically opposed somehow. Sorry I may be over-thinking this a bit, but I didn't really get that comment.
I'm sorry, didn't read everything, too much text. But I have questions, how about those without physical and mental illness, do they have right to die on their own terms?