Alec
Wizard
- Apr 22, 2019
- 681
Just wanted to let you guys know, Primperan appeared on eBay right now again, in case you are looking to buy it.
charlottewilts
read Dostoyevsky
- Jun 15, 2019
- 494
not to be disrespectful, but... don't you think this kind of thread could bring negative attention to the forum, and cause this medicine to become less available subsequently? i noticed that meto pops up as a recommended purchase when looking up SN, even on incognito mode or with a VPN. it is appreciated that you took your time to point this out, but it could be really counterproductive.
Alec
Wizard
- Apr 22, 2019
- 681
I'm in Spain and used eBay app, so I don't know if the other person that's saying about Greece eBay is talking about the same person. Also, as far I remember it's the same seller i bought from and they were sending it from Spain as well. But I don't know maybe it also pops up on Greece eBay. Also, does it matter? Maybe just try googling "Primperan eBay" because if the seller can ship to your country, I don't think matters in what countries eBay they are posting the product.
I get your concern. I think it's partly because of that that links aren't allowed in threads, otherwise I would just post a link. I thought about the same issue, but then let's think about it. Primperan is a medication to help prevent vomiting, there's nothing illegal about it in itself. Not to mention Primperan is only one of the brand names of meto, there are others. Yes, we are using it for suicide, but they are not going to make it illegal over night, it takes a long time to make a new law, and the producers of this medication would fight against that law of course. They can't make illegal or even restrict too much something that isn't THAT dangerous in itself, because without SN it's just an anti sickness tablet.
so the rest is up to the seller themselves. But it's not their business what people use it for, they are selling it to make some money, it's not their fault what it's been used for and even more they can't know FOR SURE that people will use it for suicide. All they can do is ask you what you will use it for, but you can just lie, they won't know the truth.
And the other thing as you say, draw negative attention to this site, how exactly? This is resource, the very reason this site was created for. And everyone who researches SN method knows about meto and Primperan, I would like to help them find it but the truth is many already also know that it can be bought online in places like eBay without my help. So they would be looking it up and buying it. There's no escaping this, we need these things for our method and we can't create them out of thin air, we will have to buy them somewhere from someone. The reason I posted it is because that listing for Primperan only appears there now and then and doesn't stay there long as the seller doesn't sell large quantities, so the people that are regularly checking for it might miss it because they happened not to check this day or at this hour, so I wanted to draw their attention to it, that it's up there so they should check again and hurry up.
The truth is, posting this won't do anything that isn't already done and can't be escaped.
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I agree that the medication itself may not be restricted . but individual sources mentioned here might be removed on the sole reason that they have been posted here because it could be argued that the source is facilitating suicide . hypothetically if a rope salesman becomes widely known as the go to guy for hanging rope that can be enough of a reason to shut him down. I'm exaggerating of course in the case of rope , but for medication it's a much more realistic scenario.
In general there's no point in bringing attention to a source that exists on such a popular website , people who need it can find it themselves, bringing it to attention in such a notorious forum can only hurt accessibility.
I just want to say when I use the eBay app from the US, search for primperan doesn't show any results unless I switch the location setting to worldwide. For people who might be searching for it on eBay with no luck.
I find this answer a bit short sighted.
Issues have a tendency to creep.
So the more we say "oh well, it's too late now anyway, so don't bother", then the more standards get relaxed over time.
I'm not saying I have all the answers, but just saying there's no issue doesn't seem wise to me.
We should generally tend towards sharing info on PMs.
e.g. Your original post could have been worded :
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title : Metoclopramide / meto back in stock online
body : A listing for metoclopramide / meto seems to be back online on a well known online marketplace. If you don't know what to search for then try searching this forum, or PM someone.
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I suppose having things recorded in some threads from time to time is okay in certain limited cases (such as meto), since that info can be searched later, but we shouldn't be doing it as the norm since that will lead to more and more relaxed views, which is unwise.
If the information can already be searched without too much difficulty on this site, then we should tell people to use the search rather than repeating the info....
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Ennuimortel
Être ou ne pas etre
- Jan 7, 2020
- 30
What do you think of making a fake prescription to obtain an antiemetic in pharmacies?
Meto is available online, so why do you feel the need to go to those lengths ?
Ennuimortel
Être ou ne pas etre
- Jan 7, 2020
- 30
I can't find it online. That is why I am considering making a false prescription. That way I can get the medicine faster and I can be sure of the quality of the product.
But hey I don't know if I'm going to dare to make a false prescription but maybe some people have already done it.
In any case it costs 3 euros in pharmacies here
HereToday
Arcanist
- Dec 27, 2019
- 437
note : If you want to talk to anyone privately (instead of posting on threads), then you can use "PM" (PM = personal message, a bit like sending someone an email)
You need to make at least 5 posts and need to have been active for at least 24 hours to get access.
If you don't know what to post, you can post in some of the "games" threads (see "offtopic" section).
Once you have PM access, when you hover the mouse pointer over a user name, you will see a "start conversation" button...
Perhaps someone can assist in a PM since we're limited in what we can post on public threads like this.
UpandDownPrincess
Elementalist
- Dec 31, 2019
- 833
Bad, bad idea. If found out (and that can be likely in our digital age) you'll be in for a world of aggravation.
Thank you, but nope. You cannot obtain it in Canada. I understand that items can be sent to a Usan address where the item is then shipped to your adress. Not sure what it is called though.
Loner
Member
- Jun 16, 2019
- 76
I certainly don't think we should be posting such clear info like the OP did, sorry. They could have said that they know where you could get it from and if someone's interested then they could PM them. Even acid reducers are getting more and more difficult to get online these days. A few months ago SN, meto acid reducers etc where a lot easier to get online. But not anymore. At least in the UK anyway. It's a lot easier for people in the US when I checked the availability of these things. I am not planning to CTB for a few years I don't think, but it was getting more and more difficult to get SN, I got so panicky and when it showed up on a popular online site I bought it straight away, just in case.
Posts like this generate unnecessary panic in people.
I haven't seen very much evidence of what you are stating.
Listings sometimes go offline while vendors restock things.
Zantac had a product recall, so wasn't being sold for a while (haven't checked latest).
Meto is not difficult to obtain online in the UK.
Loner
Member
- Jun 16, 2019
- 76
ok, but can you give an example of something you think cannot be ordered currently ?
Loner
Member
- Jun 16, 2019
- 76
I am not interested in an argument about this or anything else for that matter. It's fine by me if don't believe what I said. If people want to post the info then let them. I was just stating my opinion and my experience.
Quarky00
Enlightened
- Dec 17, 2019
- 1,956
It is restricted .. prescription only. True, not controlled substance (prohibited "drugs"), but still illegal to import, posses, etc Rx without prescription. It does not matter what it's used for.
No one will get arrested for antacids and antiemetics ;) But it's not very legal to import
No argument here to the best of my knowledge.
You stated things are hard to get, so I just wanted an example.
Anyhow if you don't wish to give one, then that's fine...
