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Eat my arse, Pain&Sh*tness & Mindf*ckitation Grift
- Mar 1, 2020
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So the other day I tried putting the knot at the front of my neck rather than the back. It was only practice as I held the rope in my hand and if I passed out the pressure would loosen. I still had the blood building up in the head feeling like I had when the knot was in the back, but with it in the front I felt I could breathe much easier and didn't have the urge to swallow. Another difference, strangely enough, was that my practice run left red marks on my neck where the rope was and my neck was hot to the touch. Also days later I still feel weakness in my neck. When the knot was in the back in previous trials it left no marks and my neck didn't feel weak afterwards at all even when I had the rope tied off securely and was using strength + weight. So it seems that the knot in the front has the disadvantage of making my neck feel weak even when the rope isn't tied off, but has the advantage of me still being able to breathe.
Anyway, in my curiosity I did some reading about knot position in hanging. Apparently it is somewhat popular for people to put the knot at the sides of the neck, left or right. That seems a bit confusing to me because I thought the idea is to compress both carotid arteries, but apparently many people have achieved success in hanging from mainly compressing one of them. I suppose it may be enough to make someone pass out, to more completely compress one while only partially compressing the other, and then once passed out they'd both be completely compressed despite one of them being closest to the knot where the least amount of pressure lies all because of the sudden dead weight of the body. Correct me if I'm wrong here, but I'm starting to believe that this is the best way to go about hanging, and I will from now on put the knot at the left or right side of my neck to hopefully achieve a fairly painless death.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
"Abstract
Present Study conducted prospectively to find out the position of knot in the neck in all hanging cases coming for post mortem examination at Mymensingh Medical College Mortuary in the year 2005. Hanging is a process in which the body is suspended with a ligature around the neck, which causes constriction of air passage preventing exchange of air between atmosphere & alveoli of lungs, leading to asphyxia & death. The constriction force is either the weight of the whole body or the weight of the head alone. A weight of 2Kg is sufficient for death in hanging. According to position of knot hanging is of two types-Typical hanging and Atypical hanging. In typical hanging the knot of the ligature should be at the nape of the neck and the knot of the ligature at any site other than the nape of the neck is Atypical hanging. A total of 557 postmortems were conducted in the year 2005 out of which 66 cases were of hanging. Among these, 66 cases (100%) position of knot on neck were on center of occiput (Typical hanging) in 14 cases (21.21%), on right side in 17 cases (25.75%), on left side in 21 cases (31.81%) and on front of neck in 14 cases (21.21%). Total of 52 cases are of Atypical hanging. This study suggests that Atypical hanging is more common (78.78%) than Typical hanging (21.21%) and more on left side of the neck (31.81%). Study at S.P. Medical College and A.G Hospitals, Bikaner in 2004 shows that out of 390 cases 35 (8.97%) were of hanging. Amongst those 35 cases in 33 cases position of knot on nape of the neck in 5 cases (15.15%), right side of neck 15 cases (45.45%), left side of neck in 11 cases (33.33%) and front of the neck 2 cases (6%). In their study, Typical hanging was found in 15.15% and Atypical hanging was in 84.85%; and Maximum on right side of the neck i.e. 45.45%. In both the studies Atypical hanging was more common but Maximum was on right side in their study and We found maximum on left side."
lostallhope.com
"Stone1 does discuss the possibility of achieving suspension in such a way so as to put the necessary pressure on the blood vessels to/from the face (at its side), without constricting the airway. The positioning of the knot could be important here, as the knot's position is where the least pressure is applied to the neck. According to a study by JL Luke5, the most popular location of the knot in successful suicidal hangings is on the left, closely followed by the right and back of the neck. Only 5% of successful suicidal hangings in this study had the knot at the front of the neck"
Anyway, in my curiosity I did some reading about knot position in hanging. Apparently it is somewhat popular for people to put the knot at the sides of the neck, left or right. That seems a bit confusing to me because I thought the idea is to compress both carotid arteries, but apparently many people have achieved success in hanging from mainly compressing one of them. I suppose it may be enough to make someone pass out, to more completely compress one while only partially compressing the other, and then once passed out they'd both be completely compressed despite one of them being closest to the knot where the least amount of pressure lies all because of the sudden dead weight of the body. Correct me if I'm wrong here, but I'm starting to believe that this is the best way to go about hanging, and I will from now on put the knot at the left or right side of my neck to hopefully achieve a fairly painless death.
Incidence of typical and atypical hanging among 66 hanging cases - PubMed
Present Study conducted prospectively to find out the position of knot in the neck in all hanging cases coming for post mortem examination at Mymensingh Medical College Mortuary in the year 2005. Hanging is a process in which the body is suspended with a ligature around the neck, which causes...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
"Abstract
Present Study conducted prospectively to find out the position of knot in the neck in all hanging cases coming for post mortem examination at Mymensingh Medical College Mortuary in the year 2005. Hanging is a process in which the body is suspended with a ligature around the neck, which causes constriction of air passage preventing exchange of air between atmosphere & alveoli of lungs, leading to asphyxia & death. The constriction force is either the weight of the whole body or the weight of the head alone. A weight of 2Kg is sufficient for death in hanging. According to position of knot hanging is of two types-Typical hanging and Atypical hanging. In typical hanging the knot of the ligature should be at the nape of the neck and the knot of the ligature at any site other than the nape of the neck is Atypical hanging. A total of 557 postmortems were conducted in the year 2005 out of which 66 cases were of hanging. Among these, 66 cases (100%) position of knot on neck were on center of occiput (Typical hanging) in 14 cases (21.21%), on right side in 17 cases (25.75%), on left side in 21 cases (31.81%) and on front of neck in 14 cases (21.21%). Total of 52 cases are of Atypical hanging. This study suggests that Atypical hanging is more common (78.78%) than Typical hanging (21.21%) and more on left side of the neck (31.81%). Study at S.P. Medical College and A.G Hospitals, Bikaner in 2004 shows that out of 390 cases 35 (8.97%) were of hanging. Amongst those 35 cases in 33 cases position of knot on nape of the neck in 5 cases (15.15%), right side of neck 15 cases (45.45%), left side of neck in 11 cases (33.33%) and front of the neck 2 cases (6%). In their study, Typical hanging was found in 15.15% and Atypical hanging was in 84.85%; and Maximum on right side of the neck i.e. 45.45%. In both the studies Atypical hanging was more common but Maximum was on right side in their study and We found maximum on left side."
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"Stone1 does discuss the possibility of achieving suspension in such a way so as to put the necessary pressure on the blood vessels to/from the face (at its side), without constricting the airway. The positioning of the knot could be important here, as the knot's position is where the least pressure is applied to the neck. According to a study by JL Luke5, the most popular location of the knot in successful suicidal hangings is on the left, closely followed by the right and back of the neck. Only 5% of successful suicidal hangings in this study had the knot at the front of the neck"
