podcast/publication interest?

[Ah.ow]

I wondered if anyone had thought aabout doing or participating in some kind of publication?

podcast seemed possibly easiest? but i don't know

as long as the publication content was safe, like not harming people's suicidality, i wondered how to think about what could be part of it? maybe whatever people wanted to say and felt the forum wasn't enough for, or possible for?

it might help too to connect with people who aren't on this forum? such as people who feel unable to participate on forums in general? I'm familiar with other options and I feel unable on them.

I'm having trouble describing, I worry if that's ok. for example I wonder how to keep things safe from harmful people, while not making access harder for people in hardship

 

[Forever Sleep]

Honestly, I think people are very brave for openly expressing their ideas on ideation and that they actually have ideation. I expect it changes the way others see us and I don't think it would be easy to keep it annonymous. I really admire the idea though. Maybe it could help others feeling alone. Or, were you thinking more about activism and the right to die?

If it connected to here in some way though, I'm not so sure. There's a part of me that thinks it might be better if people found this place organically. Plus- we obviously wouldn't want criticisms that we were advertising it and recruiting for new members. They think we're a cult as it is!

 

[Ah.ow]

Honestly, I think people are very brave for openly expressing their ideas on ideation and that they actually have ideation. I expect it changes the way others see us and I don't think it would be easy to keep it annonymous. I really admire the idea though. Maybe it could help others feeling alone. Or, were you thinking more about activism and the right to die?

If it connected to here in some way though, I'm not so sure. There's a part of me that thinks it might be better if people found this place organically. Plus- we obviously wouldn't want criticisms that we were advertising it and recruiting for new members. They think we're a cult as it is!

oh, i didn't mean the idea had to name ss, or be part of ss - i meant to ask here because more of suicidality seemed respected here. I wondered where to ask and I wonder if i clarified?

might you be able to elaborate on activism and anonymity worries? (I worry about anonymity but I wondered if masking voices could help, for example. I get confused at the word activism and it seemed more advanced than organic conversations to begin, but I did think about people supporting each other in an advocacy way - but that could prevent anonymity for at least the supported person, even if the supporter was remore - so my activism need might not fit the publication idea, for people who need more anonymity than that activism allows. but if anyone wanted a legal option to help suicidal people, advocating for someone so that they don't ctb because of no support, is the best and main way that some people need.)

 

[Forever Sleep]

oh, i didn't mean the idea had to name ss, or be part of ss - i meant to ask here because more of suicidality seemed respected here. I wondered where to ask and I wonder if i clarified?

might you be able to elaborate on activism and anonymity worries? (I worry about anonymity but I wondered if masking voices could help, for example. I get confused at the word activism and it seemed more advanced than organic conversations to begin, but I did think about people supporting each other in an advocacy way - but that could prevent anonymity for at least the supported person, even if the supporter was remore - so my activism need might not fit the publication idea, for people who need more anonymity than that activism allows. but if anyone wanted a legal option to help suicidal people, advocating for someone so that they don't ctb because of no support, is the best and main way that some people need.)

I guess I envisaged it in terms of clever people putting forward well structured arguments on the right to die. So, topics like:

Is it immoral for someone to want to or actually take their own life? Is it selfish? Yes- it hurts others but, isn't it also selfish to expect someone to live in pain? How many suicidal people actively seek out help- helplines, therapy, meds? How effective are they for them? Why do they fail? Why do people take their own lives? Are there common motives emerging? Is society doing enough to prevent people becoming that desperate in the first place? Is ideation always connected to mental illness? Just because someone is mentally ill, does that mean their reasoning is totally impaired? What kind of responses do people get when they tell others they are suicidal? Do those responses help? What responses would help?

Stuff like that I suppose. Those sorts of questions would (hopefully) get people thinking about suicide in a deeper and more practical way. I suppose my hope would be that we could get more 'normy' people in society to accept that suicide isn't just the ultimate taboo that you don't talk about and definitely don't do. I would hope people would start giving more time to properly consider why people choose it. That it may even be a reasoned and well thought out decision. Not because- oh- they're crazy or in constant pain. That doesn't help anyone. I think it could be great in fact but I think it would require a kind of maverick to do it!

I have no idea how you could keep it anonymous. Sure, you could hire voice actors or use voice changers or whatever but, presumably you still need to register this kind of thing with the platform it goes on. Which I imagine requires names and a money trail. Given how much some people in society seemingly HATE suicide being discussed in any other way than: 'It's bad, don't do it' I reckon anyone involved in it would be making themselves a target for doxing and hate. Some of the people that would (likely) oppose it will have lost people to suicide themselves, so they just seem fuelled by hate towards those who (they perceive) enable or even encourage it. I think you've got to be pretty brave to make yourself a target for them.