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Hello, I just got my hands on a medication called phenobarbitone. It's used for helping insomnia ( also seizures). Just wanted to know if overdosing on this could be considered as a firm method for ctb.
Please help me out here. I am a bit desperate actually.
 
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Pheno is the barbiturate slower. Is an interesting method but it depends on several factors. Yo would need do a combo with a benzo and an opiate.
Be careful, pheno has tolerate high and you could screw up easily.
Do not be desperate.
 
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Pheno is the barbiturate slower. Is an interesting method but it depends on several factors. Yo would need do a combo with a benzo and an opiate.
Be careful, pheno has tolerate high and you could screw up easily.
Do not be desperate.
Sir, so taking overdosing on it with mere water won't do the trick?
 
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I was getting it confused it with pentobarbital.
What did you get it prescribed for if i may ask. Are barbiturates still prescribed?
Mld of it is given here..
In some cases of suicide with it, lethal doses taken were 2 to 10 grams (better to take 10 tho)
I saw that.. sometimes it is being used along with benzos (may be for peacefulness)
Better to add them too may be.
 
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I was getting it confused it with pentobarbital.
What did you get it prescribed for if i may ask. Are barbiturates still prescribed?
Mld of it is given here..
In some cases of suicide with it, lethal doses taken were 2 to 10 grams (better to take 10 tho)
I saw that.. sometimes it is being used along with benzos (may be for peacefulness)
Better to add them too may be.
Sir, my brother was prescribed these for his seizures. These are tablets. As per my small research, in developing nations, phenobarbitone are prescribed for seizures and insomnia, but I am not very sure if i should continue on with this method. Except for its name, I barely know anything about it.
 
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Sir, so taking overdosing on it with mere water won't do the trick?

Yes, you will. 18 or 20 grms minimum and 24 hrs left. It is a slow death.
I think you might consider those elements to do it on a safe way.
 
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Yes, you will. 18 or 20 grms minimum and 24 hrs left. It is a slow death.
I think you might consider those elements to do it on a safe way.
Thank you for clarifying that sir, but all I can arrange for is 14 hrs max.
 
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Sir, my brother was prescribed these for his seizures. These are tablets. As per my small research, in developing nations, phenobarbitone are prescribed for seizures and insomnia, but I am not very sure if i should continue on with this method. Except for its name, I barely know anything about it.
Please don't call as sir..you are in need of help here, so am I and everyone here.
How much amount of it have you got if i may ask ?
 
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Please don't call as sir..you are in need of help here, so am I and everyone here.
How much amount of it have you got if i may ask ?
I am from india too btw.
I can't say the exact amount, but maybe close to 300 tablets. Each tablet is 60mg, if I remember correctly.
 
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I was getting it confused it with pentobarbital.
What did you get it prescribed for if i may ask. Are barbiturates still prescribed?
Mld of it is given here..
In some cases of suicide with it, lethal doses taken were 2 to 10 grams (better to take 10 tho)
I saw that.. sometimes it is being used along with benzos (may be for peacefulness)
Better to add them too may be.

Yes, they are, especially pheno, but problem is pheno has a tolerate high, and you will need a high dose.
Yes, might be used in a combo with, for instance midazolam and bupremorphine, a benzo and a opiate.
But, it is useful.
 
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I can't say the exact amount, but maybe close to 300 tablets. Each tablet is 60mg, if I remember correctly.
I see..
I don't know anything more about it.
 
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I can't say the exact amount, but maybe close to 300 tablets. Each tablet is 60mg, if I remember correctly.

That should be sufficient, yes. In most cases of phenobarbital suicides in Western countries, it's combined with alcohol or other depressants for additive depressant effects. (It's not prescribed that much over here any more, so most suicides using this drug in the West are from the 90's or earlier.)

A political activist (Abbie Hoffman) committed suicide with 150 30mg phenobarbital pills and a blood alcohol level of 0.2 (for most people that's enough alcohol to pass out), and Ernest Hemingway's granddaughter committed suicide with phenobarbital pills as well (up to 100, probably mixed with a large number of Clonazepam pills, but a blood test was never done to determine how many she'd taken).

Taking a strong antiemetic to prevent vomiting might be a wise precaution, but probably isn't necessary with that amount.
 
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That should be sufficient, yes. In most cases of phenobarbital suicides in Western countries, it's combined with alcohol or other depressants for additive depressant effects. (It's not prescribed that much over here any more, so most suicides using this drug in the West are from the 90's or earlier.)

A political activist (Abbie Hoffman) committed suicide with 150 30mg phenobarbital pills and a blood alcohol level of 0.2 (for most people that's enough alcohol to pass out), and Ernest Hemingway's granddaughter committed suicide with phenobarbital pills as well (up to 100, probably mixed with a large number of Clonazepam pills, but a blood test was never done to determine how many she'd taken).

Taking a strong antiemetic to prevent vomiting might be a wise precaution, but probably isn't necessary with that amount.
So, I need some alcohol with it? Sorry for being such a naive nut, it's just I am a virgin when it comes to alcohol.
 
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I can't say the exact amount, but maybe close to 300 tablets. Each tablet is 60mg, if I remember correctly.

Equal 18 grms. It is an important quantity.
Below you have a useful combo using pheno.Could manage without opiate.
Do not take too much alcohol, it is worse. One drink is enough.
 

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So, I need some alcohol with it? Sorry for being such a naive nut, it's just I am a virgin when it comes to alcohol.

I honestly can't say for sure. I just know that in successful suicides reported in the US and Europe, people using phenobarbital also used another depressant (like alcohol) in their suicides. 300 60mg pills might (should?) be enough on its own, but I just don't know.

Swallowing 300 pills is going to take some fluids, so if it were me, I'd buy a bottle of my favorite liquor and use it to help swallow the pills... seems like it would be more reliable, and a more pleasant experience. Your preferences may vary.
 
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Equal 18 grms. It is an important quantity.
Below you have a useful combo using pheno.Could manage without opiate.
Do not take too much alcohol, it is worse. One drink is enough.
My humble gratitude for help sire. I will see if i can get my hands on some other drugs that were mentioned in the article and thanks again.
I honestly can't say for sure. I just know that in successful suicides reported in the US and Europe, people using phenobarbital also used another depressant (like alcohol) in their suicides. 300 60mg pills might (should?) be enough on its own, but I just don't know.

Swallowing 300 pills is going to take some fluids, so if it were me, I'd buy a bottle of my favorite liquor and use it to help swallow the pills... seems like it would be more reliable, and a more pleasant experience. Your preferences may vary.
I wish I could do that, but you definitely gave me a faint idea about the reliability of this method. Thank you sir.
 
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My humble gratitude for help sire. I will see if i can get my hands on some other drugs that were mentioned in the article and thanks again.

I wish I could do that, but you definitely gave me a faint idea about the reliability of this method. Thank you sir.

Why do you talk like that? Hes not a noble Lord.
 
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Why do you talk like that? Hes not a noble Lord.

Because he or she is clearly Indian. The cultural norms and certain social structures in India require a great deal of deference and expressed gratitude from some members of their society.
 
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Because he or she is clearly Indian. The cultural norms and certain social structures in India require a great deal of deference and expressed gratitude from some members of their society.

Ok, respect is important, but were equal here.
 
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Because he or she is clearly Indian. The cultural norms and certain social structures in India require a great deal of deference and expressed gratitude from some members of their society.
That's some good observation, I must say.
 
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So, I need some alcohol with it? Sorry for being such a naive nut, it's just I am a virgin when it comes to alcohol.

If you have rarely drank alcohol, it will likely cause you to vomit. You should be taking an anti vomit drug like Meto anyway.
 

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