Discussion @people with serious physically illness

[chrijo]

I'm physically healthy but tend to end my life. Do you think I'm a ungrateful person?

if you want to remain anonymous, feel free to vote only.

 

[Marawa]

I don't think you're ungrateful at all, I've been suicidal prior to being physically disabled, it's horrible. BUT I wish I had worked smarter & harder in my youth so whatever I decided to do now I'd be able to (ie get N, pay for better doctors & get better care for recovery).
I don't believe enough emphasis is placed on financial literacy security in the education curriculum in the US.

 

[Redt2go]

No :(. Don't be mean to yourself

 

[Roberto]

I'm not ill from physical disease. But health is in the body & also the mind. Don't feel bad for what you feel. There is something that doesn't work in you & me. We would like help, but after we tried (At least me) it didn't seem to work.
A big hug

 

[FTL.Wanderer]

I'm physically healthy but tend to end my life. Do you think I'm a ungrateful person?

if you want to remain anonymous, feel free to vote only.

I think you are no more ungrateful than someone who chooses to cut her/his hair. Like with your hair, you had no choice in having your life. But both belong to you. If you don't like your hair, you cut it. And if you don't like life, you get rid of it. It's too bad our culture insists on deciding what's morally right for everyone else even when the issue is so personal. Nearly all of these people maligning the suicidal, if they were in conditions THEY considered bad enough (having been captured by enemies of their government who were determined to torture them to death slowly...), would choose to commit suicide to save themselves from future pain. But you're "ungrateful" (wrong) for choosing to commit suicide. Hypocrites.

 

[lululoo]

No and to be honest I don't like this question. It's not the first time I've heard it. Sorry to be blunt. But I haven't lost all empathy for people just because I have physical health issues. I was suicidal before I had physical issues! Even if I wasn't, I'd be able to understand how someone could be that way even in a healthy body. I may be jealous of your health, but I'd never consider you ungrateful.

 

[Kyrok]

I have no idea how ungrateful you are. Further, don't think in absolutes: people aren't grateful/ungrateful. We all take some things for granted but recognize the value of other things. But when you're depressed, the bad tends to be your focus and accentuated.

As for serious illness, we deal with it differently. I have severe chronic pain and am beaten down by it. I have a friend in similar pain who is full of energy and happy.

 

[Your Own Ghost]

Maybe I'm just feeling spacey, but I'm not sure if I ever heard of a person calling another ungrateful for wanting to end their life. Many other things, sure, but not ungrateful. It seems like something a mother would tell her child for throwing a fit. Your prompt did however remind me of a quote by David Foster Wallace I'd like to share:

"The so-called 'psychotically depressed' person who tries to kill herself doesn't do so out of quote 'hopelessness' or any abstract conviction that life's assets and debits do not square. And surely not because death seems suddenly appealing. The person in whom its invisible agony reaches a certain unendurable level will kill herself the same way a trapped person will eventually jump from the window of a burning high-rise. Make no mistake about people who leap from burning windows. Their terror of falling from a great height is still just as great as it would be for you or me standing speculatively at the same window just checking out the view; i.e. the fear of falling remains a constant. The variable here is the other terror, the fire's flames: when the flames get close enough, falling to death becomes the slightly less terrible of two terrors. It's not desiring the fall; it's terror of the flames. And yet nobody down on the sidewalk, looking up and yelling 'Don't!' and 'Hang on!', can understand the jump. Not really. You'd have to have personally been trapped and felt flames to really understand a terror way beyond falling."

I don't know if that applies specifically to your situation, but imagine, then, someone standing on the ground, pointing up to a person falling from a burning building and saying "Well would you look at that ungrateful person!"

 

[chrijo]

Big thanks to everyone :-)

"Ungrateful" because of I'm tend to throwing away what they've lost. I would understand the feelings of such people, they've lost the most precious thing in life - physical integrity. I'm mental broken as fuck, I don't want to degrade the mental illness with it.

 

[brighter]

Why is mental illness considered less important or less painful as physical illnesses? I've seen people be crippled by physical pain and I've seen people be crippled by their own mind.
You're not ungrateful honey, you're in pain

 

[Roberto]

Why is mental illness considered less important or less painful as physical illnesses? I've seen people be crippled by physical pain and I've seen people be crippled by their own mind.
You're not ungrateful honey, you're in pain ❤

When I separated from my wife, I had a heartache that was awful. I never thought I could suffer so much. It was unexpected. It is a pity that any doctor didn't give me nothing. One of the worst aches ever felt. It was real, physical. So much hurt.

 

[chrijo]

When I separated from my wife, I had a heartache that was awful. I never thought I could suffer so much. It was unexpected. It is a pity that any doctor didn't give me nothing. One of the worst aches ever felt. It was real, physical. So much hurt.

Maybe you had the Broken-Heart-Syndrome

I had the same thing, feels like an elephant standing on your chest and your loved one stabbing a scorching knife in your heart. Since that moment I'm pretty sure: love can kill.

 

[alizee]

Pain comes from the brain no matter it be physical or mental.

 

[chrijo]

Pain comes from the brain no matter it be physical or mental.

Short and to the point :-)

 

[Soon4me]

Thank you for the option to give an anonymous answer,i voted no

 

[Zaynaldeen]

As someone who's been physically ill since 7 years old, I'd say yes. I would do anything to rid myself of this disease, but I don't know about your issues so I won't say more.

 

[TAW122]

I don't think you are ungrateful at all. Psychological pain is just as valid as physical pain and sometimes it can be very damaging (or even worse than physical pain). You also don't owe anyone any reason to end it and don't have to justify yourself to anyone IMHO.

 

[WhiteRabbit]

I have severe neuropathic pain over 50% of my body. It feels like i'm being burned alive. To say it sucks is an understatement. I also now have depression. I would trade places with someone with just depression in a heartbeat. I don't think people with without 24/7 horrible chronic pain can really understand it.

I don't think you're ungrateful, but I envy your good health

 

[Jumper]

I have bipolar illness and a new chronic pain condition. I was already suicidal with the bipolar alone... and even when life was "good"... so I know how you feel. It is NOT to be minimized. Now this physical condition has exacerbated the psych illness. If only one of them could go away.