999888

999888

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Sep 10, 2019
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First, sorry for bad english.Is there any report of someone vomiting even following the full SN protocol? (I searched and found nothing) i mean full protocol: 48 hours regimen with meto + antacid, + dont eat 8 hours + 15-20g in 100ml water.
 
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Moonicide

Moonicide

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Nov 19, 2019
802
Can't find the link, but I remember a member that had taken Meto and puked, yet passed away peacefully.
I know Stan has discussed people taking Meto, not taking Meto, and still passing.
There's OTC options if you can't get Meto either, it's just Meto is better.
 
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Quax

Quax

Student
Nov 16, 2019
140
The regimen is the ideal process, but that does not mean that not following it results in a failed attempt. SN is very toxic so the recommended dose of about 25 g is kind of overkill, actually a significant lower dose kill you and it is absorbed quite fast as long as your stomach is empty. So vomiting may prolong the process but the bus will not leave without you. And vomiting is always possible no matter you took meto or not.
 
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NextBusLeaving

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Jun 24, 2019
334
Meto clashes harshly with some antidepressants too btw. Buprionone (wellbutrin) in particular iirc
 
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Moonicide

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Meto clashes harshly with some antidepressants too btw. Buprionone (wellbutrin) in particular iirc

Stan was actually kind to provide this in my thread, so I'm posting this for others:
 
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NextBusLeaving

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Jun 24, 2019
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Knew I saw it here but wasnt sure who posted. Thanks @Stan
 
GerMann

GerMann

year of birth: 1972
Nov 30, 2018
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https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/i-purchased-some-sn-and-supplies.26819/post-486767
 
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LMFAO FOCKERS

Lost in Aokigahara
May 26, 2019
528
Several people here who did the full regimen threw up and never returned. We're talking a good 3-6 months ago. I dont think its matters either way. That SN is some powerful stuff!
 
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snowman626

snowman626

Mage
Jan 28, 2019
545
why do people say the full regime is the ideal process over stat dose? because you hear people vomiting over both methods, so just wondering if its just some myth floating around or is it backed by some data?
 
Quax

Quax

Student
Nov 16, 2019
140
@snowman626 because it is recommended by the PPh....I guess....
 
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helpfulfriendonwout

Member
Nov 25, 2019
51
@snowman626 because it is recommended by the PPh....I guess....
Is it recommended by the PPH? I might not have the newest version, but this is what I have
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Edit: This isn't all my copy has to say, but it also doesn't have any process further than 30min before taking the SN. It says to take tagament 30min before, and that taking an anti emetic 30min before is an option. It doesn't mention fasting or many of the other steps people in this forum recommend. Just Tagament 30min before taking the SN
 
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Quax

Quax

Student
Nov 16, 2019
140
If I remember right... I think I read it in the 2018 version.... but I may be wrong... can't reread it, don't have it available anymore.
 
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morningdew

Experienced
Jul 8, 2019
235
Several people here who did the full regimen threw up and never returned. We're talking a good 3-6 months ago. I dont think its matters either way. That SN is some powerful stuff!

how do you know they threw up if they did return to the forum
 
Roger

Roger

I Liked Ike
May 11, 2019
972
The March 2019 PPeH mentions stat dose only in the "Lethal Inorganic Salts" chapter on page 140.

At page 181, though, ("Drugs and Vomiting" chapter) the 48 hour regimen is mentioned as an alternative to stat.

The advantages claimed are that the meto/antiemetic dosage does not need to be synchronised with the ingestion of the lethal salt, and that the 10mg per 8 hours over two days will highlight any adverse reaction to the antiemetic.

Make of that what you will. It doesn't seem terribly convincing to me, I don't understand what "synchronisation" is and I can't answer any questions; all I have done is repeat what the Handbook says.
 
Stan

Stan

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Aug 29, 2019
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Said it before and i will say it again, I have a fair few doubts about the PPH. Down to each individual to do some research as I seem to see more and more people talk about Propranolol as if it is essential. But as said above, I have seen people write that they vomited after the 48 hour regimen
 
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Ame

あめ
Nov 1, 2019
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I believe that what you are concerned about - vomiting and then surviving the attempt as a result - is an exception rather than a rule (and in my opinion, overwhelmingly so). Recall that SN is a highly toxic substance and that the recommended doses cited here are many times higher than the median lethal dose for humans. If vomiting were to take place, it is still quite likely that death will occur, be it the result of hypoxia secondary to SN poisoning or aspirating whatever is vomited up and suffocating that way.

I must echo Stan's statement and stress that CTB (or any medical decision for that matter) is an undertaking that demands a lot of research and careful consideration.
 
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