'Peaceful' CO poisoning?!?

[Freedomatlast24]

I was trying to fathom just how high the levels would need to be to knock you out, it seems pretty hard to achieve such high levels...

As if it's going to be easy to achieve higher than 3000-5000 ppm



But dizziness, sweating, increased heart rate, potential seizure, extreme headache as read here:
and in this quora post: Answer to What is it like to get carbon monoxide poisoning? by Anonymous https://www.quora.com/What-is-it-li...&share=71832d59&srid=po62c&target_type=answer

Sounds like a massive invite to SI and a potential freak out.

I get people suggest sleeping pills... but I don't have access to any heavy ones in the UK so...

I don't understand why everyone gets the impression that CO poisoning is peaceful, easy to achieve if well-prepared & you come out relatively unscathed if you fail?

If you read the wiki page... there's a whole host of physical symptoms during exposure & after...

Then comes the awful look of bodies poisoned by CO...


So yeah had this in drafts for a while, it makes no real sense but basically I'm weighing it all up... with all the prep & practice I'd have to do plus the risk and wondering whether CO method is even realistic/likely for me.

I wish I'd just jumped off Beachy Head. I really do. If I landed on a ledge, hey, I'd of landed on a fucking ledge. (That was always gunna be what stopped me).

 

[helllcreator]

Some of the best advice and information is on the CO mega thread,

Generally 3000ppm+ is what I remember reading as an adequate level to achieve the proper results but this depends on how air tight the environment you are doing this in. With charcoal or a CO generator they do continue to emit CO for a decent length of time allowing levels to continue to build or replace losses, up to a point of course.
As for peacefulness it is generally regarded as a realitivly peaceful method, remember that the side effects are things you might experience but are not guaranteed. Unlike carbon dioxide your body's hypercapnic response won't be triggered with CO, or any other inert gas. So you're unlikely to have SI kick in as a direct effect of the gas itself but more so from you yourself and how you are reacting in the situation.
In the ideal situation the CO levels would be sufficient for you to loose consciousness fairly quickly and then you shouldn't wake back up again.


The body is as a result of how the blood reacts to being saturated with CO instead of oxygen, it does result in a pinkish hue being present. I belive the nazi party trialed CO as a method of executing people and it was heavily noted then that the body's were coming out pink ( always found it odd i know that bit of info)
But in other words the pinkish hue is just a factor of it but doesn't result from any pain.

Again I recommended reading through the megathread as there is some posts by people in there with extremly detailed and though tests and results.

 

[LilysAngel]

If you wait until the CO is 10,000ppm or higher before entering the car/room/tent/whatever, you'll pass out in seconds & CTB in minutes. No symptoms.

You will 100% need an expensiveee meter for this.

 

[UKscotty]

It's easy to make high levels of CO that's the main benefit.

 

[Freedomatlast24]

If you wait until the CO is 10,000ppm or higher before entering the car/room/tent/whatever, you'll pass out in seconds & CTB in minutes. No symptoms.

You will 100% need an expensiveee meter for this.

Achieving such a concentrated level seems impossible though.

Struggling to find such a meter in the UK...

 

[Praestat_Mori]

Levels of 8k+ PPM can easily be reached. That should be sufficient for a quick and peaceful pass out.

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But how don't the bottom of it melt with coals? I mean the metal buckets for that are made for ashes and used coals gets so hot that it will burn anything from its bottom if there is no wooden thing underneath it (they are made for empting cold or warm ashes from fireplaces and burn from bottom...

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Is there a way to do this without a car and without using fire? I'm using my bathroom and have sealed windows so air can't get inside. It's the smallest room I have. I will also place something in front of the space under the door so air can't get into the room. I will be lighting the...

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[LilysAngel]

Achieving such a concentrated level seems impossible though.

Struggling to find such a meter in the UK...

Impossible? Several people on SaSu have managed to with test runs. All you have to do is seal your space correctly.

A lot are available in other countries that ship worldwide.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

It should be quite achievable to produce levels at, or above, 10000 ppm within the confines of a SMALL space. The only real way to know, of course, is to conduct "trial runs" and actually measure the CO level in the space being produced from the amount of charcoal being used, or, in the caae of a generator, from that. It's true that to do this requires a CO analyzer which costs about $300 US. One at that price measures up to 10000 ppm. There are models that can measure CO concentration levels much higher, but, with that increased functionality, comes a much higher pricetag. Using a meter is really the only way to know, though. I am of the mindset, though, that anyone who is able to utilize and simultaneously burn the charcoal of an entire 18 lb bag all at once, within the confines of a small space, is as guaranteed of death as ever there could be a guarantee - as long as all the other "prep" work is taken care of, and the basic "protocol" for a ctb utilizing charcoal and a tent is followed.

As far as what the skin color would be after a death by CO - personally, I couldn't care less. I'd be dead and I'm being cremated, anyway. I can understand it being a concern to some, though.

 

[Little_Suzy]

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[Freedomatlast24]

It should be quite achievable to produce levels at, or above, 10000 ppm within the confines of a SMALL space. The only real way to know, of course, is to conduct "trial runs" and actually measure the CO level in the space being produced from the amount of charcoal being used, or, in the caae of a generator, from that. It's true that to do this requires a CO analyzer which costs about $300 US. One at that price measures up to 10000 ppm. There are models that can measure CO concentration levels much higher, but, with that increased functionality, comes a much higher pricetag. Using a meter is really the only way to know, though. I am of the mindset, though, that anyone who is able to utilize and simultaneously burn the charcoal of an entire 18 lb bag all at once, within the confines of a small space, is as guaranteed of death as ever there could be a guarantee - as long as all the other "prep" work is taken care of, and the basic "protocol" for a ctb utilizing charcoal and a tent is followed.

As far as what the skin color would be after a death by CO - personally, I couldn't care less. I'd be dead and I'm being cremated, anyway. I can understand it being a concern to some, though.

So I can buy a CO analyzer that reaches 5000 ppm pretty easily. Any higher is a lot tougher to come by & I'd want to be sure.

I totally understand the pricetag thing.

My main thinking is to burn enough coal, you'd need quite a few chimney starters at once getting it started, you'd need to do quite a few rounds of burning & prepping the coals before your desired amount was ready in various BBQ buckets (or whatever you decide to use). I struggle to understand how people prep so many coals successfully (steady, even burn).

The colour thing bothered me because I was thinking about being identified & my family potentially seeing my body etc. etc.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

So I can buy a CO analyzer that reaches 5000 ppm pretty easily. Any higher is a lot tougher to come by & I'd want to be sure.

I totally understand the pricetag thing.

My main thinking is to burn enough coal, you'd need quite a few chimney starters at once getting it started, you'd need to do quite a few rounds of burning & prepping the coals before your desired amount was ready in various BBQ buckets (or whatever you decide to use). I struggle to understand how people prep so many coals successfully (steady, even burn).

The colour thing bothered me because I was thinking about being identified & my family potentially seeing my body etc. etc.

FIrst, NOT a meter, an Analyzer, is what you need. Meters just "beep" at you at the presence of CO. You need one that measures the amount of CO and reports it as a measure of the amount of CO in relation to the amount of "other" gases, ie air. Anyway, analyzers that measure up to 10000 ppm are relatively easy to come by. Use the term "analyzer" along with "carbon monoxide" when searching.

Yes, a few chimney starters would be needed to get all of the charcoals from a bag burning at the same time. You'd probably need a few small metal buckets to transfer them into once going, also. Gotta get all the coals burning to red/white hot, with no smoke, or nearly no smoke. When they are all glowing red/white, and throwing off an enormous amount of heat, that's when they're probably ready, and when they should be moved into the "enclosure". Then more time needs to pass to allow the CO to build-up before one enters the enclosure. If one has a meter, the probe would be inside the enclosure, while the device itself would be monitored on the outside until an adequate amount of CO was noted. Then an individual would quickly enter the enclosure and as quickly as possible re-seal the enclosure once in, all done while holding their breath. Once done the individual should only need to take a few breaths to go unconscious and death will follow within minutes.

If the after effects regarding discoloration of the body bothers you, or if it is imperative to not have your body present in such a way, maybe this just isn't the right method for you. There's no right or wrong here. It's your death and you should always have the ultimate decision as to the manner your life ends. If it doesn't "feel right", don't do it. Find another way.

Another thing, I would hope that anyone utilizing this method would buy, at least, an extra bag of charcoal, and practice, practice, practice, lighting the coals and refining their "method", if need be in order to get all the coals to burn properly before actually going through with this "way" for real. Same thing applies to getting into the enclosure efficiently and quickly. Everything needs/should be practiced until it almost becomes 2nd nature. Success demands it.

 

[Freedomatlast24]

FIrst, NOT a meter, an Analyzer, is what you need. Meters just "beep" at you at the presence of CO. You need one that measures the amount of CO and reports it as a measure of the amount of CO in relation to the amount of "other" gases, ie air. Anyway, analyzers that measure up to 10000 ppm are relatively easy to come by. Use the term "analyzer" along with "carbon monoxide" when searching.

Yes, a few chimney starters would be needed to get all of the charcoals from a bag burning at the same time. You'd probably need a few small metal buckets to transfer them into once going, also. Gotta get all the coals burning to red/white hot, with no smoke, or nearly no smoke. When they are all glowing red/white, and throwing off an enormous amount of heat, that's when they're probably ready, and when they should be moved into the "enclosure". Then more time needs to pass to allow the CO to build-up before one enters the enclosure. If one has a meter, the probe would be inside the enclosure, while the device itself would be monitored on the outside until an adequate amount of CO was noted. Then an individual would quickly enter the enclosure and as quickly as possible re-seal the enclosure once in, all done while holding their breath. Once done the individual should only need to take a few breaths to go unconscious and death will follow within minutes.

If the after effects regarding discoloration of the body bothers you, or if it is imperative to not have your body present in such a way, maybe this just isn't the right method for you. There's no right or wrong here. It's your death and you should always have the ultimate decision as to the manner your life ends. If it doesn't "feel right", don't do it. Find another way.

Another thing, I would hope that anyone utilizing this method would buy, at least, an extra bag of charcoal, and practice, practice, practice, lighting the coals and refining their "method", if need be in order to get all the coals to burn properly before actually going through with this "way" for real. Same thing applies to getting into the enclosure efficiently and quickly. Everything needs/should be practiced until it almost becomes 2nd nature. Success demands it.

I did say analyzer?

I'll respond to the rest later.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

I did say analyzer?

I'll respond to the rest later.

My bad. I don't know where I saw someone say "meter". Must have been in another posting and stuck in my mind. No excuses though, I fucked up. Sorry about that.

 

[Freedomatlast24]

My bad. I don't know where I saw someone say "meter". Must have been in another posting and stuck in my mind. No excuses though, I fucked up. Sorry about that.

It was me that said meter originally, I have learnt my lesson!

I also PM'd you regarding this!

 

[Placo]

Ironically, suffocating in a plastic bag has fewer side effects, panic must be considered though.

 

[Freedomatlast24]

Ironically, suffocating in a plastic bag has fewer side effects, panic must be considered though.

Literally, my thoughts exactly

 

[Placo]

I was trying to fathom just how high the levels would need to be to knock you out, it seems pretty hard to achieve such high levels...

As if it's going to be easy to achieve higher than 3000-5000 ppm

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But dizziness, sweating, increased heart rate, potential seizure, extreme headache as read here:
and in this quora post: Answer to What is it like to get carbon monoxide poisoning? by Anonymous https://www.quora.com/What-is-it-li...&share=71832d59&srid=po62c&target_type=answer

Sounds like a massive invite to SI and a potential freak out.

I get people suggest sleeping pills... but I don't have access to any heavy ones in the UK so...

I don't understand why everyone gets the impression that CO poisoning is peaceful, easy to achieve if well-prepared & you come out relatively unscathed if you fail?

If you read the wiki page... there's a whole host of physical symptoms during exposure & after...

Then comes the awful look of bodies poisoned by CO...

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So yeah had this in drafts for a while, it makes no real sense but basically I'm weighing it all up... with all the prep & practice I'd have to do plus the risk and wondering whether CO method is even realistic/likely for me.

I wish I'd just jumped off Beachy Head. I really do. If I landed on a ledge, hey, I'd of landed on a fucking ledge. (That was always gunna be what stopped me).

The bodies that die with CO actually seem alive unlike other methods precisely because of the reddish color, I didn't consider it horrible.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

It was me that said meter originally, I have learnt my lesson!

You trying to mess with my mind now?

 

[Freedomatlast24]

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I don't believe in SI; you're either ready or not. Whether it's a lack of preparation or a desire to live, excessive doubt prevents people from taking their own lives. Make no attempt if you are unprepared. Most of us suffer from avoidance, which allows us to survive despite our daily suffering.

Yes you're right about the spoiler, it won't let me edit my original post now though!
I think the second bit is pretty harsh, SI is a natural instinct, however low, numb, prepared we are, surely? Avoidance, however, I can relate to.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

Ironically, suffocating in a plastic bag has fewer side effects, panic must be considered though.

Literally, my thoughts exactly

What about the severe bodily resonse you're going to experience by breathing in all that CO2 in the bag? That's completely a seperate issue than SI.

 

[Freedomatlast24]

What about the severe bodily resonse you're going to experience by breathing in all that CO2 in the bag? That's completely a seperate issue than SI.

Okay on second thoughts you're not wrong there... tbh I wasn't agreeing to the bag comment just the infographic!

You trying to mess with my mind now?

May as well

 

[Placo]

What about the severe bodily resonse you're going to experience by breathing in all that CO2 in the bag? That's completely a seperate issue than SI.

Let's say that the nausea is replaced by panic, but I tried with the bag but not the CO and I must say that in fact it is not a light thing also because the more you breathe the worse it gets, you don't find relief.

 

[Tiny Circle]

Carbon monoxide megathread

But how don't the bottom of it melt with coals? I mean the metal buckets for that are made for ashes and used coals gets so hot that it will burn anything from its bottom if there is no wooden thing underneath it (they are made for empting cold or warm ashes from fireplaces and burn from bottom...

sanctioned-suicide.net

Carbon monoxide megathread

Is there a way to do this without a car and without using fire? I'm using my bathroom and have sealed windows so air can't get inside. It's the smallest room I have. I will also place something in front of the space under the door so air can't get into the room. I will be lighting the...

sanctioned-suicide.net

Second link... I'm genuinely surprised how much charcoal is needed to reach 8,000 ppm of CO. I guess I need to consider my plan using a small 23" grill as that probably wouldn't suffice.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

Let's say that the nausea is replaced by panic, but I tried with the bag but not the rCO and I must say that in fact it is not a light thing also because the more you breathe the worse it gets, you don't find relief.

Wait..........are we talking about an exit bag and CO2, or are we talking about CO poisoning from burning charcoals or whatever. I know there's panic that sets in from breathing CO2. That's still seperate from SI. SI is a panic that starts even before you do anything. Not really sure of what you're asking.

 

[LilysAngel]

I said meter in this post earlier too. That's my bad. :) thank you for the clarification. Noted!

I'm also crying at the fact they're $300. The second one I overnighted in total was $600(tax&airplane shipping).

 

[Placo]

Wait..........are we talking about an exit bag and CO2, or are we talking about CO poisoning from burning charcoals or whatever. I know there's panic that sets in from breathing CO2. That's still seperate from SI. SI is a panic that starts even before you do anything. Not really sure of what you're asking.

I was talking about the panic you have with the bag and the CO2 where breathing doesn't bring any relief, on the contrary it increases the feeling of panic even if at a certain point, from what I've read, this sensation of activation should go away and be replaced by a more narcotizing one too. I can't tell you whether that sense of panic remains or not, I think it's right before one lose consciousness.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

I was talking about the panic you have with the bag and the CO2 where breathing doesn't bring any relief, on the contrary it increases the feeling of panic even if at a certain point, from what I've read, this sensation of activation should go away and be replaced by a more narcotizing one too. I can't tell you whether that sense of panic remains or not, I think it's right before one lose consciousness.

Yeah, that's how it happens from all accounts. Don't really know if that panic actually goes away with a little time passing. I think most people pretty quickly rip the bag off shortly after it starts. I guess if you can handle it until becoming unconscious, I guess you're all set. From everything I've read it's hard to handle it until that point. I think that's why it isn't a very popular method. It's just difficult to go all the way with it. Maybe your experience will be different. I really don't know. This difficulty in doing it with just a bag is exactly why the "improved" method came into being with all the apparatus, to make it easier.

 

[Placo]

Yeah, that's how it happens from all accounts. Don't really know if that panic actually goes away with a little time passing. I think most people pretty quickly rip the bag off shortly after it starts. I guess if you can handle it until becoming unconscious, I guess you're all set. From everything I've read it's hard to handle it until that point. I think that's why it isn't a very popular method. It's just difficult to go all the way with it. Maybe your experience will be different. I really don't know. This difficulty in doing it with just a bag is exactly why the "improved" method came into being with all the apparatus, to make it easier.

Which one are you referring to with the improved method? The one in the megathread where it combines this method with the torniquet?

 

[Artemisia]

Oh dear, OP thinks turning pink is some form of dissuasion? If I could get a gun I'd blow my brains out! Trust me, turning pink is the least of my concerns!

 

[Freedomatlast24]

Oh dear, OP thinks turning pink is some form of dissuasion? If I could get a gun I'd blow my brains out! Trust me, turning pink is the least of my concerns!

We're all different l, I was thinking about my family finding me/identifying me, that's all. Sorry I encouraged such a response from you.