Passive Suicide : Becoming Monk or sanyasi rather than suicide

[Soontobegoner]

So in India there is a concept of leaving everything and becoming a wondering monk. Not that it is an easy path but it kind a remove one from current circumstances and start over. Live off land... Take what's given graciously and if not then one planning to die anyway... What you guys think of it.

 

[R_N]

I think it is easier to live in a monastery than survive on your own. And it is not easy at all to devoid yourself of almost everything you craved.

Edit: I am sorry I didn't see it was meant as passive suicide.

 

[Soontobegoner]

Monestry has merit of being any organisation... Only issue is... Then you are out from one setup and into another...

Other issue is... Most of monestry or ashram we call them in India has economy of their own and not really spiritual but a means to survive. Then it becomes from passive Suicide to passive living.

I am sorry I didn't see it was meant as passive suicide.

Yea... Living like hobo on street and then die eventually of hunger or other circumstances may be

 

[R_N]

Monestry has merit of being any organisation... Only issue is... Then you are out from one setup and into another...

Other issue is... Most of monestry or ashram we call them in India has economy of their own and not really spiritual but a means to survive. Then it becomes from passive Suicide to passive living.

Yeah I just realized you meant it as passive suicide not becoming a monk for that reason alone. Dying from hunger/thirst then without intervention is what you are thinking about? I think that might be slow and painful but maybe achievable to someone with strong spiritual dedication.

 

[Soontobegoner]

Yeah I just realized you meant it as passive suicide not becoming a monk for that reason alone. Dying from hunger/thirst then without intervention is what you are thinking about? I think that might be slow and painful but maybe achievable to someone with strong monk dedication.

Just a curious thought.... It has connection with spirituality too... Like if one dies while being true monk... Most of his/her karma that brought him these circumstances gets washed away.... So may be in next life one does not have to deal with same shit

 

[R_N]

Just a curious thought.... It has connection with spirituality too... Like if one dies while being true monk... Most of his/her karma that brought him these circumstances gets washed away.... So may be in next life one does not have to deal with same shit

I am not into Buddhism myself to the point I believe in reincarnation cycle, but I do find it more interesting than other religions because it's like a philosophy.

Being able to observe yourself opens your mind to different perspectives on life.

 

[Linda]

Leaving everything and going off on your own sounds very risky to me. Joining a monastery would be safer, but you would then be bound by the rules of the monastic community. Could you cope with that? And remember that iI you have problems, you will probably take them with you to the monastery. Is it possible to try going off by yourself, or joining a monastery, for a limited period, such as a month or two, to see whether either is right for you? Whatever you do, don't give away all your possessions until you know that you have a viable alternative life.

 

[Soontobegoner]

I am not into Buddhism myself to the point I believe in reincarnation cycle, but I do find it more interesting than other religions because it's like a philosophy.

Being able to observe yourself opens your mind to different perspectives on life.

Recarnation is part of most of non Abrahamic relegion... In Hinduism mostly

Leaving everything and going off on your own sounds very risky to me. Joining a monastery would be safer, but you would then be bound by the rules of the monastic community. Could you cope with that? And remember that iI you have problems, you will probably take them with you to the monastery. Is it possible to try going off by yourself, or joining a monastery, for a limited period, such as a month or two, to see whether either is right for you? Whatever you do, don't give away all your possessions until you know that you have a viable alternative life.

I actually been to monestry and ashram both and more than a month.... So one can go to such institutions... Not that acceptance would be easy but one can work hard to be accepted and adjust... Issue is... There is nothing spiritual in those monestry i found... Just a repetitive routine of rituals... No one I saw actually practicing the preaching.... Funnily... Some of monk had become youtuber

 

[uzuf86]

I thought about this very hard. My problem with this is, even becoming a monk is not going to fix my disappointment and severe depression in my life. My mind is damaged to the point that nothing can fix it.

 

[Soontobegoner]

I thought about this very hard. My problem with this is, even becoming a monk is not going to fix my disappointment and severe depression in my life. My mind is damaged to the point that nothing can fix it.

Oh i hear you... I myself is in same boat... Though the suggestion here is not exactly becoming a monk but leaving the old life and coming to road. Now on road either one would appreciate what one had or just give and die of hunger.... As one might think people would give food for needy but I don't know... And anyway... One can choose to not to take food and eventually with long time fasting... One would die... Initially hunger hurts but after 3 4 days.... The pain subsides.
I would really love to do it... Issue is... The place... India is so overpopulated that everywhere there is someone... And for this method... One would need a place where one can die in peace without anyone doing any intervention.

 

[uzuf86]

Oh i hear you... I myself is in same boat... Though the suggestion here is not exactly becoming a monk but leaving the old life and coming to road. Now on road either one would appreciate what one had or just give and die of hunger.... As one might think people would give food for needy but I don't know... And anyway... One can choose to not to take food and eventually with long time fasting... One would die... Initially hunger hurts but after 3 4 days.... The pain subsides.
I would really love to do it... Issue is... The place... India is so overpopulated that everywhere there is someone... And for this method... One would need a place where one can die in peace without anyone doing any intervention.

Didn't know that starving to death is painless, interesting.........

 

[Soontobegoner]

Didn't know that starving to death is painless, interesting.........

From what I understand.... Initial days are painful... Like first 2 3 days... Once body starts consuming itself... Pain of hunger subsides and one becomes lathergic... Basically body trying to conserve the leftover energy.... Eventually all fat and then muscle gets consumed to such degree that internal organs starts failing.... Thats my understanding

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