dysfunctional

dysfunctional

Arcanist
Oct 26, 2018
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Welll, my parents found my 357. I'm staying with them because I'm so depressed, and they know I'm suicidal. They took it and I don't know what they did with it. Pretty sure I can still pass a background check. Might have to make a plan to get another one. Will be tricky though, they're keeping close tabs on me.
 
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lost_soul83

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Jan 7, 2019
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Welll, my parents found my 357. I'm staying with them because I'm so depressed, and they know I'm suicidal. They took it and I don't know what they did with it. Pretty sure I can still pass a background check. Might have to make a plan to get another one. Will be tricky though, they're keeping close tabs on me.
Sounds like you need to get out of that house. Otherwise your parents are gonna thwart any attempt you make to ctb. My suggestion is, get another gun and keep it at a friend's house or get your own place. Sorry your gun got taken from you. I know how upsetting that must be, like your opportunity to make your pain end is gone. Take care and don't forget that this community is always here for you.
 
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siray

siray

the crucified
Dec 28, 2018
178
Man I can't even begin to imagine your frustration. May I ask how much you payed for it?
 
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Retched

Retched

I see the chaos in your eyes.
Oct 8, 2018
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That's frustrating, I'm sorry to hear it.
 
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EmotionlessWanderer

EmotionlessWanderer

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Jan 19, 2019
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Do your parents work? If so then leave while they're on shift. Leave behind any devices such as phones they can track you with, buy your second gun and then go somewhere distant from society such as the woods or a mountain. If possible wait till nightfall preferably midnight. It's unlikely you will be found during that time.
 
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throwaway123

throwaway123

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Aug 5, 2018
1,446
How can they legally take your gun away? It's yours. File a lawsuit.
 
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21Neberg

21Neberg

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Dec 17, 2018
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How can they legally take your gun away? It's yours. File a lawsuit.

Maybe we don't have to go that far just yet, can't you talk to them about how much you paid for it and that you'd like to keep it with you when you move out again? Or just steal it back, as others have suggested.
 
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TiredHorse

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Nov 1, 2018
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How can they legally take your gun away? It's yours. File a lawsuit.
He goes to the law, and his parents report him suicidal. Not a winning strategy.
 
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TAW122

TAW122

Emissary of the right to die.
Aug 30, 2018
6,803
That really sucks, I'm really sorry to hear that happened. This is also one of the fears I had now that I own a firearm (a shotgun specifically). No one to this day knows that I'm a gun owner and I don't plan to let anyone who interacts with me know that I own one.

I'm with the other people here who suggested taking back your gun when your parents' aren't around (assuming that you know where your parents' hid the gun). Failing that, I would purchase another gun and then go someone secluded. As always, leave behind anything that could be used to track you down, such as smartphone, laptops, GPS, etc.

He goes to the law, and his parents report him suicidal. Not a winning strategy.

I don't know what state he is in, but how could that be legal? IANAL, but I would assume it would be his parents' word against his word. Does the parents have proof that he is a danger to himself or others? (Such as writings, video evidence, email, audio recordings, previous police reports, circumstantial evidence, etc.) Unless there is a law that someone/party could just claim that someone is suicidal and then said person loses his/her firearms (such as temporary restraining orders, red flag laws, gun violence restraining orders, etc.). I don't know if he lives in one of the states that has those laws on the books. Imho, those laws are really unconstitutional as they violate due process by assuming guilt/wrong before the person has the chance to speak up/defend him/herself. It is also a big stab at the 2nd amendment, but that's another topic for another time.

Anyhow, there is likely more to the situation than what we know.
 
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TiredHorse

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Nov 1, 2018
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I don't know what state he is in, but how could that be legal? IANAL, but I would assume it would be his parents' word against his word. Does the parents have proof that he is a danger to himself or others?
Yes, it would be his word against theirs, but 1) parents' words can and will be considered in such an assessment (siblings' can't, but spouses'/partners' can), especially when the parents produce the evidence; 2) the law would likely consider liability in their decision and err on the side of caution, resulting in a delay and a headache at best; and 3) if he is staying in his parents' house, he is A) more plausibly their dependant and thus their assessment of his mental state will be more credible, and B) their tenant, subject to their "terms of lease" as regards firearms posession.

It's a sticky and complex situation, and one that could go either way. But think about it from the judge's point of view, in this anti-choice society, and you tell me which way you think it would be likely to go? Not theoretically, or ideally, but realistically?

@dysfunctional, I agree that if you can unobtrusively re-acquire the existing gun, that is certainly a good option. However, if it is likely that your parents will notice that you have reclaimed posession of it before such time as you ctb, they will undoubtedly raise a ruckus. In which case, purchasing a new gun may be your best / most subtle option.
 
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TAW122

Emissary of the right to die.
Aug 30, 2018
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It's a sticky and complex situation, and one that could go either way. But think about it from the judge's point of view, in this anti-choice society, and you tell me which way you think it would be likely to go? Not theoretically, or ideally, but realistically?

Realistically, given how things are, it is likely that the judge would side with the parents and may dismiss such a lawsuit. While said person may have a chance later on, it won't be easy to obtain the firearm from parents (assuming they didn't sell it or discard it or turn it in to LE), at least not without a lot of headaches and delays.
 
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