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Rsuicidal

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Dec 12, 2018
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After I am gone I assume police need to make sure I did this to myself. Will my note suffice in determining that?
I dont want anyone to get into shit because of me.
Ive set aside just enough to cremate me and Id like to express how that money needs to be spent, but if police have my notes wouldnt that leave someone on the financial hook to deal with me?

Thank you for any advice
 
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JustLosingMyself

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Sep 4, 2018
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No, it will be passed on to your estate
Your next of kin or your heirs will be asked if they want to inherit the estate with whatever assets and debts it has. They are free to refuse.
 
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I am concerned too. I am leaving a note to the coroner/authorities with a clear and concise explanation that states 1. I was miserable for years so this will not be a surprise 2. I had no assistance or advice beyond what was offered via the assisted dying guides, and 3. Leave my drivers license/passport with instructions on whom to contact.

I think this will help. I've read that authorities default to treating every suicide preemptively as a homicide so it's best to leave a note to minimize an unnecessary, potentially lengthy investigation.

Oh, I will also state that I had prior attempts, starting at age 13, which should emphasize the inevitability of the act.

What financial concerns do you have?
 
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Johnnythefox

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Nov 11, 2018
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If you are in the UK a coroner will open an investigation to determine there was no foul play.
 
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You could record the process on your phone.
 
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Smilla

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If you are in the UK a coroner will open an investigation to determine there was no foul play.

We don't have "inquests" here in the states, it seems in the UK these are long, drawn out affairs involving testimony from loved ones at court hearings even in cases of obvious suicides. Is my perception correct?
 
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Rsuicidal

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Dec 12, 2018
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I am concerned too. I am leaving a note to the coroner/authorities with a clear and concise explanation that states 1. I was miserable for years so this will not be a surprise 2. I had no assistance or advice beyond what was offered via the assisted dying guides, and 3. Leave my drivers license/passport with instructions on whom to contact.

I think this will help. I've read that authorities default to treating every suicide preemptively as a homicide so it's best to leave a note to minimize an unnecessary, potentially lengthy investigation.

Oh, I will also state that I had prior attempts, starting at age 13, which should emphasize the inevitability of the act.

What financial concerns do you have?

I dont want a funeral for reasons like expense. My blood family will be notified which is really too bad since nothing will be respected. I want to leave the bit of money and instructions to my partner for inexpensive cremation but of course I am scared police will confiscate all notes. And then there is someone upset and getting conned into an expensive party by greedy people.
 
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I dont want a funeral for reasons like expense. My blood family will be notified which is really too bad since nothing will be respected. I want to leave the bit of money and instructions to my partner for inexpensive cremation but of course I am scared police will confiscate all notes. And then there is someone upset and getting conned into an expensive party by greedy people.

You can state all of this in a note addressed to the authorities.
 
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Johnnythefox

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Que sera sera
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We don't have "inquests" here in the states, it seems in the UK these are long, drawn out affairs involving testimony from loved ones at court hearings even in cases of obvious suicides. Is my perception correct?
I think there is the initial inquest which decides if matters need to progress to further investigation. So if it's clear that no foul play was present it goes no further.
 
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Shewaitsforme

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We don't have "inquests" here in the states, it seems in the UK these are long, drawn out affairs involving testimony from loved ones at court hearings even in cases of obvious suicides. Is my perception correct?

Yes thats correct. My partner died in May via suicide at a hotel. I reported her missing night before, house was searched and the car as they wabted to rule me out of killing her and disposing of the body. Inquest was held middle of august. I did a statement and still had to go on stand at the inquest, so did her father. Hotel staff gave written statements also. Ruled hypoglycemia where intentions were unknown so it wasnt recorded as suicide as they couldnt prove she didnt eat or injected too much insulin on purpose eventhough the insulin pen was empty.
 
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Yes thats correct. My partner died in May via suicide at a hotel. I reported her missing night before, house was searched and the car as they wabted to rule me out of killing her and disposing of the body. Inquest was held middle of august. I did a statement and still had to go on stand at the inquest, so did her father. Hotel staff gave written statements also. Ruled hypoglycemia where intentions were unknown so it wasnt recorded as suicide as they couldnt prove she didnt eat or injected too much insulin on purpose eventhough the insulin pen was empty.

Sorry for your loss. And going through an investigation like that must have been brutal.
 
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Shewaitsforme

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Sorry for your loss. And going through an investigation like that must have been brutal.

It was brutal, I ended up getting sectioned twice and nearly losing my job. I cant say i 100% want to live but for now im just concentrating on work as best i can
 
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killing me softly

don't wake me, i plan on sleeping in
Dec 28, 2018
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from the pph:

Suicide Notes
One way that the question of mental competence can be addressed is by way of a well-expressed suicide note. Especially if you do not mind that your death is recorded as 'suicide'.

A suicide note is a statement of intent (in written, video, oral recording or other social media form) that outlines why a person ended their own life. The note will offer insight and explanation for those left behind, including, if necessary for the authorities.

When considering how or what to include in a suicide note, the following points may be helpful. One could say:
- The decision was the result of careful consideration
- No other person was involved in this decision
- The decision was not influenced by outside pressures
- If the person was suffering from a serious illness this should be mentioned
- In short, paint a picture which any reasonable person would be able to relate to and sympathize with.

Once the note has been signed and dated, it is wise to make a few photocopies. If written, give or mail copies to close friends (if you have told them of your plans). Or use a sealed envelope and ask them to 'keep it safe'. That way you need not reveal the exact date and time of your plans. If you are in contact with a lawyer you could also give a sealed envelope to them also. Leaving your note hidden in a drawer in your home is another possibility. Let someone close and supportive know it is there to be used 'just in case' questions are asked.

A well written suicide note will not only help confirm that you knew what you were doing - that you had mental capacity to die - but it will help keep others safe. It is much more difficult for the police to charge a loved one with helping you suicide - even if they were with you when you died - if there is a first-hand statement by you outlining why you did what you did. If you don't mind that your death will be known as a suicide, then the note can be let somewhere obvious.
 
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Rsuicidal

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from the pph:

Suicide Notes
One way that the question of mental competence can be addressed is by way of a well-expressed suicide note. Especially if you do not mind that your death is recorded as 'suicide'.

A suicide note is a statement of intent (in written, video, oral recording or other social media form) that outlines why a person ended their own life. The note will offer insight and explanation for those left behind, including, if necessary for the authorities.

When considering how or what to include in a suicide note, the following points may be helpful. One could say:
- The decision was the result of careful consideration
- No other person was involved in this decision
- The decision was not influenced by outside pressures
- If the person was suffering from a serious illness this should be mentioned
- In short, paint a picture which any reasonable person would be able to relate to and sympathize with.

Once the note has been signed and dated, it is wise to make a few photocopies. If written, give or mail copies to close friends (if you have told them of your plans). Or use a sealed envelope and ask them to 'keep it safe'. That way you need not reveal the exact date and time of your plans. If you are in contact with a lawyer you could also give a sealed envelope to them also. Leaving your note hidden in a drawer in your home is another possibility. Let someone close and supportive know it is there to be used 'just in case' questions are asked.

A well written suicide note will not only help confirm that you knew what you were doing - that you had mental capacity to die - but it will help keep others safe. It is much more difficult for the police to charge a loved one with helping you suicide - even if they were with you when you died - if there is a first-hand statement by you outlining why you did what you did. If you don't mind that your death will be known as a suicide, then the note can be let somewhere obvious.

Thank you. In no way Ill be seen as reasonable with my mental health history. Just do not want my partner in shit for this at all and we had one accidental no incident run in with police which is why I am scared he will be held and questioned.
 
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