Help Overcoming the body's tendency to throw up when consuming alcohol

[Mircea]

My method of choice will involve consuming a considerable amount of alcohol. To to knock myself out in the water or at least not perceive fear as I drown, I estimated I'll need about 600ml of a 40% concentrated drink. I'll also be taking it after not sleeping for a night or eating for 12 hours, which also tends to make me nauseous. The situation is further complicated by the fact that my body has a permanent sensitivity to alcohol; I used to get drunk in my parent cellar as a child, and ever since I can barely stand the taste of cheap alcohol.

The last time I drank was during a depressing visit I took many years ago: I'd buy those 200ml / 37.5% bottles of whatever they had from the local mall and down them in one sitting. The taste was horrible, but it never actually caused me to feel like throwing up... none the less I had to hold my nose and take breaks in between to be able to handle it. I never got anywhere past that amount so I don't know how my body would react to it, but I can easily predict it's not going to be easy at all.

This is why I need your help with one last detail. I need some way to get rid of that horrible taste and prevent my body from vomiting the alcohol. I must do this without reducing its efficiency which I'll need every little bit of, but also without taking a cocktail that risks permanently damaging my body in the unlikely event of failure. An important detail is that I don't have a lot of money on me, and can only purchase lawful substances which are cheap and easily available in shops. Some of the thoughts I've had so far:

• Medicine: I'm likely going to visit a small pharmacy in the area, pretend I ate something bad if anyone asks any questions, and buy whatever pills they have for combating nausea. I'm then going to take a slight overdose for safe measure before I head out for the shore. Is there a specific type of medicine you recommend, which is efficient in combating vomiting but also goes well with alcohol without causing complications?
• Tongue coating: I've heard about certain fruits and other substances that can be used to numb taste, usually by coating the surfaces on your mouth so they don't respond to taste for a while. Do you know of any such substance? For instance: I used to take Methylene Blue for treatment as a kid, and remember it had such an effect.
• Cocktail: I'm pondering the possibility of putting something into the alcohol to numb its taste (namely fruit). Sour liquids like lemon juice would only make it worse, but something sweet like oranges might make the taste more bearable. Has anyone successfully mixed alcohol with other substances to improve its taste?
• Hose: This is a tricky and unlikely idea I've thought of. In order to not feel the taste of the alcohol and get the job done in seconds, I considered pushing a small diameter hose down my throat and pouring the alcohol through it. I'd need to construct a special bottle cap first, and would have to test this out with water to see if I can actually handle it. I'm not yet sure if it's worth the effort though: Would this indeed be more efficient and reduce the body's want to throw up?

 

[Halo13]

My method of choice will involve consuming a considerable amount of alcohol. To to knock myself out in the water or at least not perceive fear as I drown, I estimated I'll need about 600ml of a 40% concentrated drink. I'll also be taking it after not sleeping for a night or eating for 12 hours, which also tends to make me nauseous. The situation is further complicated by the fact that my body has a permanent sensitivity to alcohol; I used to get drunk in my parent cellar as a child, and ever since I can barely stand the taste of cheap alcohol.

The last time I drank was during a depressing visit I took many years ago: I'd buy those 200ml / 37.5% bottles of whatever they had from the local mall and down them in one sitting. The taste was horrible, but it never actually caused me to feel like throwing up... none the less I had to hold my nose and take breaks in between to be able to handle it. I never got anywhere past that amount so I don't know how my body would react to it, but I can easily predict it's not going to be easy at all.

This is why I need your help with one last detail. I need some way to get rid of that horrible taste and prevent my body from vomiting the alcohol. I must do this without reducing its efficiency which I'll need every little bit of, but also without taking a cocktail that risks permanently damaging my body in the unlikely event of failure. An important detail is that I don't have a lot of money on me, and can only purchase lawful substances which are cheap and easily available in shops. Some of the thoughts I've had so far:

• Medicine: I'm likely going to visit a small pharmacy in the area, pretend I ate something bad if anyone asks any questions, and buy whatever pills they have for combating nausea. I'm then going to take a slight overdose for safe measure before I head out for the shore. Is there a specific type of medicine you recommend, which is efficient in combating vomiting but also goes well with alcohol without causing complications?
• Tongue coating: I've heard about certain fruits and other substances that can be used to numb taste, usually by coating the surfaces on your mouth so they don't respond to taste for a while. Do you know of any such substance? For instance: I used to take Methylene Blue for treatment as a kid, and remember it had such an effect.
• Cocktail: I'm pondering the possibility of putting something into the alcohol to numb its taste (namely fruit). Sour liquids like lemon juice would only make it worse, but something sweet like oranges might make the taste more bearable. Has anyone successfully mixed alcohol with other substances to improve its taste?
• Hose: This is a tricky and unlikely idea I've thought of. In order to not feel the taste of the alcohol and get the job done in seconds, I considered pushing a small diameter hose down my throat and pouring the alcohol through it. I'd need to construct a special bottle cap first, and would have to test this out with water to see if I can actually handle it. I'm not yet sure if it's worth the effort though: Would this indeed be more efficient and reduce the body's want to throw up?

You could buy Orajel and coat your mouth/tongue in it however I am not sure how it'd effect the taste or if it'd help mask the taste. I used to mix half a Gatorade with a pint of 100 proof vodka to make it taste bearable. Pour out half the Gatorade, empty the booze in it. Still has a little bite to it but not like mixing orange juice, which I find gross. The berry flavors taste best. After a few swigs, the taste isn't too bad because you're tipsy and don't care as much. I am not sure about the hose idea.

That said, I used to be a raging alcoholic. I drank a couple pints of vodka a day and mixed it with benzos + opiates off and on for several years. I am uncertain how reliable this method is as it never killed me. Best of luck.

 

[memento_mori]

maybe vodka or rum with OJ?
I'm an avid whiskey drinker but if you aren't into that you might throw up easily

 

[Mircea]

You could buy Orajel and coat your mouth/tongue in it however I am not sure how it'd effect the taste or if it'd help mask the taste. I used to mix half a Gatorade with a pint of 100 proof vodka to make it taste bearable. Pour out half the Gatorade, empty the booze in it. Still has a little bite to it but not like mixing orange juice, which I find gross. The berry flavors taste best. After a few swigs, the taste isn't too bad because you're tipsy and don't care as much. I am not sure about the hose idea.

That said, I used to be a raging alcoholic. I drank a couple pints of vodka a day and mixed it with benzos + opiates off and on for several years. I am uncertain how reliable this method is as it never killed me. Best of luck.

I never heard of Orajel before. From what I'm seeing in a quick search it's a brand of toothpaste? Might look into it.

I've thought about mixing Vodka with natural orange juice (Cappy Pulpy). It could make the taste more bearable, but has the downside of diluting the alcohol: It's twice easier to drink, but I'd also have to drink twice more liquid overall. So in the end I'd be reducing its efficiency too much to be worth it.

600ml is definitely not enough to kill anyone, and I'm not sure it would even knock me out cold entirely. The plan is to immediately dive into the water after consuming it, then keep swimming away until I'm either too tired or get knocked out by the alcohol and drown.

maybe vodka or rum with OJ?
I'm an avid whiskey drinker but if you aren't into that you might throw up easily

Vodka or rum will be the most likely option. I only drink extremely rarely and it can make me feel sick, which is why I'll need to numb the taste somehow.

 

[Halo13]

I never heard of Orajel before. From what I'm seeing in a quick search it's a brand of toothpaste? Might look into it.

I've thought about mixing Vodka with natural orange juice (Cappy Pulpy). It could make the taste more bearable, but has the downside of diluting the alcohol: It's twice easier to drink, but I'd also have to drink twice more liquid overall. So in the end I'd be reducing its efficiency too much to be worth it.

600ml is definitely not enough to kill anyone, and I'm not sure it would even knock me out cold entirely. The plan is to immediately dive into the water after consuming it, then keep swimming away until I'm either too tired or get knocked out by the alcohol and drown.



Vodka or rum will be the most likely option. I only drink extremely rarely and it can make me feel sick, which is why I'll need to numb the taste somehow.

Orajel is a gel that has benzocaine in it to numb your mouth if someone has a toothache or mouth sore. Makes your tongue numb if you were to use it. Might sound silly but I got the idea you really can't stand the taste of liquor and thought also it might help with getting it down quicker. Just a thought.

Personally, I'd just mix it with Gatorade or OJ and chug it, nevermind the Orajel. A pint of vodka, especially 80 or 100 proof is actually enough to get really hammered. Sometimes I couldn't even finish it without blacking out. A pint is nowhere near the same as a pint of beer or lager - it is approximately 12-13 shotglasses of vodka or rum or a 12 pack of beer. If you seldom drink, I can't imagine how you would be conscious after that much.

 

[fister]

If you have ever had a gastric lavage you know they sometimes lubricate a tube and get it down your throat by putting it up your nose, instead of down the throat. Unless you have good self control I think it would be difficult for you to do this to yourself.

I think that, with your experience with alcohol, that it may not work out as planned. Drowning in the ocean is going to be pretty agonizing.

Good luck mate.

 

[Halo13]

If you have ever had a gastric lavage you know they sometimes lubricate a tube and get it down your throat by putting it up your nose, instead of down the throat. Unless you have good self control I think it would be difficult for you to do this to yourself.

I think that, with your experience with alcohol, that it may not work out as planned. Drowning in the ocean is going to be pretty agonizing.

Good luck mate.

Have to agree here. There's so many variables. No judgement intended at all. Alcohol poisoning is no fun at all when you survive it.

 

[Mircea]

Do understand that I've had limited experience with drinking in the past: I am able to drink 200ml of Vodka in roughly 10 minutes without much bother. The problem is going all the way up to 600mll

 

[Halo13]

Do understand that I've had limited experience with drinking in the past: I am able to drink 200ml of Vodka in roughly 10 minutes without much bother. The problem is going all the way up to 600mll

Right, that's one of the unknown variables. If you're looking to pass out and drown, is there any possibility of getting some benzos or opiates on top of the alcohol? That way it should involve less drinking and counter the fear of drowning, perhaps.

 

[Mircea]

Right, that's one of the unknown variables. If you're looking to pass out and drown, is there any possibility of getting some benzos or opiates on top of the alcohol? That way it should involve less drinking and counter the fear of drowning, perhaps.

Are benzos a legal drug that can be bought in markets or pharmacies? Do they cost a lot also? If not I'm afraid they aren't an option for me. If I could afford expensive black market substances, I'd be using Nembutal instead.

 

[kappa]

If you have an alcohol intolerance nothing will help you with not getting sick.

 

[mplslonely]

It would take a bit of trial and error but flip your thoughts around and take it as an enema.

 

[hunter_lewis]

Sorry to spoil, but this method has multiple risks-first of all, alcohol (even 600 ml) will not impair you completely. Second, the survival instinct will take over and there is nothing you can do about it, so your body will try and swim for hours or keep you floating, not to drown. Thirdly, there have been people who have survived this-I talked to a main personally who jumped into a 8 degree river drunk and woke up on the shore 2h laters, drunk and cold and was rescued.
just for you to make an informed choice

 

[Mircea]

While I appreciate all the concerns and informed posts, this is not being very helpful. I still need advice on how I can best reduce the disgusting taste of alcohol with readily available products. Intolerance to alcohol may be incurable, but this is what I have and what I need to work with.

Sorry to spoil, but this method has multiple risks-first of all, alcohol (even 600 ml) will not impair you completely. Second, the survival instinct will take over and there is nothing you can do about it, so your body will try and swim for hours or keep you floating, not to drown. Thirdly, there have been people who have survived this-I talked to a main personally who jumped into a 8 degree river drunk and woke up on the shore 2h laters, drunk and cold and was rescued.
just for you to make an informed choice

Quite certain it's biologically impossible for the average person to swim without touching the ground for even one hour: The energy needed doesn't come out of nowhere... especially after one day of sleep deprivation and not eating. That person likely jumped in a small river and / or was extremely lucky.

If after 15 minutes nothing is happening, I'll probably force myself to breathe underwater or start drinking the salt water until I become heavy and start to sink.

 

[fister]

I don't think you'll be able to drink very much salt water. It's really foul and your body won't want it.

 

[Monster]

Put it up your ass. No taste, no vomiting.

 

[hunter_lewis]

Put it up your ass. No taste, no vomiting.

or vagina

 

[fister]

or vagina

No - I am here to avoid suffering and to prevent others from suffering - I think this suggestion makes your intentions clear

 

[hunter_lewis]

No - I am here to avoid suffering and to prevent others from suffering - I think this suggestion makes your intentions clear

that was actually serious-girls can get drunk if they put alcohol in there

 

[CTB-London]

My method of choice will involve consuming a considerable amount of alcohol. To to knock myself out in the water or at least not perceive fear as I drown, I estimated I'll need about 600ml of a 40% concentrated drink. I'll also be taking it after not sleeping for a night or eating for 12 hours, which also tends to make me nauseous. The situation is further complicated by the fact that my body has a permanent sensitivity to alcohol; I used to get drunk in my parent cellar as a child, and ever since I can barely stand the taste of cheap alcohol.

The last time I drank was during a depressing visit I took many years ago: I'd buy those 200ml / 37.5% bottles of whatever they had from the local mall and down them in one sitting. The taste was horrible, but it never actually caused me to feel like throwing up... none the less I had to hold my nose and take breaks in between to be able to handle it. I never got anywhere past that amount so I don't know how my body would react to it, but I can easily predict it's not going to be easy at all.

This is why I need your help with one last detail. I need some way to get rid of that horrible taste and prevent my body from vomiting the alcohol. I must do this without reducing its efficiency which I'll need every little bit of, but also without taking a cocktail that risks permanently damaging my body in the unlikely event of failure. An important detail is that I don't have a lot of money on me, and can only purchase lawful substances which are cheap and easily available in shops. Some of the thoughts I've had so far:

• Medicine: I'm likely going to visit a small pharmacy in the area, pretend I ate something bad if anyone asks any questions, and buy whatever pills they have for combating nausea. I'm then going to take a slight overdose for safe measure before I head out for the shore. Is there a specific type of medicine you recommend, which is efficient in combating vomiting but also goes well with alcohol without causing complications?
• Tongue coating: I've heard about certain fruits and other substances that can be used to numb taste, usually by coating the surfaces on your mouth so they don't respond to taste for a while. Do you know of any such substance? For instance: I used to take Methylene Blue for treatment as a kid, and remember it had such an effect.
• Cocktail: I'm pondering the possibility of putting something into the alcohol to numb its taste (namely fruit). Sour liquids like lemon juice would only make it worse, but something sweet like oranges might make the taste more bearable. Has anyone successfully mixed alcohol with other substances to improve its taste?
• Hose: This is a tricky and unlikely idea I've thought of. In order to not feel the taste of the alcohol and get the job done in seconds, I considered pushing a small diameter hose down my throat and pouring the alcohol through it. I'd need to construct a special bottle cap first, and would have to test this out with water to see if I can actually handle it. I'm not yet sure if it's worth the effort though: Would this indeed be more efficient and reduce the body's want to throw up?

A sweet liqueur perhaps.

To overdose on alcohol (or anything else for that matter) without being sick you can take anti-emetics like Metoclopramide and/or Ondansetron.

A greater issue is that your method sounds like a bad way to go. Knocking yourself out in the water would be difficult and drowning yourself would be unpleasant.

 

[ge0rge]

What a Romanian way to go, my friend.

 

[fister]

that was actually serious-girls can get drunk if they put alcohol in there

Even if substances can cross that, it's nothing like the colon. Ethanol will burn

 

[hunter_lewis]

Even if substances can cross that, it's nothing like the colon. Ethanol will burn

guess that's valid-never tried it myself

 

[BridgeJumper]

I had my stomach pumped before. The tube doesnt go through the nose, it goes through the mouth. You confused this with an ng tube. Either way a horrible experience.
I also cant stand the taste of alcohol, so I chug as much as I can and then follow up with equally big gulp of something sweet like fruit juice or soda.
Putting booze in your ass is a real possibility. It absorbs directly into your bloodstream without you having to taste it and you also need a smaller ammount for it to work. But idk how to go about this, has anyone on here tried anything like that yet? Maybe put a tube in your ass like for an enema and slowly pour the booze inside

 

[Superfluous]

Sorry I missed your thread. I was in transit on Thursday. As you know, I have also chosen the same method.

Firstly, let's tackle the issue of vomiting. Whilst a consumed substance that irritates the stomach can cause the stomach to expel it's contents, the brain can also recognise when something unwanted is entering the body and creates the feeling of nausea which can result in vomiting. For this reason, we need to address both of these issues.

As you're not consuming anything that can cause serious damage, then OTC antiemetics should be sufficient. To counteract the stomachs response, Pepto-Bismol could help, although Gaviscon may be better, especially the double-action version (I use this regularly). For the brain, I would suggest the antihistamine Dramamine, specifically the drowsy one.

Next, let's try and reduce the amount of alcohol required, or alternatively improve/increase the drowsiness. The Dramamine will already help, but checking up on the best OTC sleeping aid, I came across Kirkland Signature. I reckon that all these combined should improve your chances of achieving unconsciousness without vomiting.

I should say that I am not a medical professional, but as all these products are available OTC, then it's unlikely you're going to do any serious harm (not the best phrase to use under the circumstances). I would also suggest doing at least one test run with reduced quantities beforehand just to be sure.

 

[kappa]

I guess I don't understand the logic of trying to kill yourself with alcohol if you are alcohol intolerant. If you have a sensitivity, you're going to puke that booze up. Doubt it will matter putting it up your ass or not, or masking the taste. If your intolerant you are going to puke that shit up.

 

[Mircea]

I guess I don't understand the logic of trying to kill yourself with alcohol if you are alcohol intolerant. If you have a sensitivity, you're going to puke that booze up. Doubt it will matter putting it up your ass or not, or masking the taste. If your intolerant you are going to puke that shit up.

Drowning is the only accessible way for me. I cannot drown while awake... even while that drunk it might still be difficult and feel scary. I have to work with what I have.

 

[SomebodyBroken]

Drowning is the only accessible way for me. I cannot drown while awake... even while that drunk it might still be difficult and feel scary. I have to work with what I have.

By the way, about your opinion that "energy is needed" for being on the water. I tried after 5 days of eating only liquid. well, although there was sugar in the coffee.
I tried to swim, but when the strength ran out, I overcame the pain / fatigue and so on and surfaced. my si is strong, damn it. and agree with the opinion above, forcing myself to take a sip of salt water is very problematic.
therefore, on the one hand the idea is not bad, but damn... every unsuccessful attempt infuriates. and the fact that "it would seem to be desirable" to do this, BUT, the organism considers otherwise.

 

[fister]

I had my stomach pumped before. The tube doesnt go through the nose, it goes through the mouth. You confused this with an ng tube. Either way a horrible experience.

i've had gastric lavage twice and both times they went up my nose. it's medically valid to go into the mouth, too, and i've had endoscopies done this way while anesthesized. i guess it depends on the situation, the staff's experience and the policy of the facility.

 

[BridgeJumper]

I wish it went up my nose, instead they throat fucked me with a 3 cm diameter garden hose :o