Resource Other source as empire for buying F ?

[dxnys]

Hello guys, I had some troubles with empire market. I checked some others and they hadn't fentanyl, or only selling until a certain quantity. And I was asking to myself, if you guys knew others sources to buy fentanyl ?
Furthermore I checked on forum, and except empire market or dark web in general, there is no more precises information.

Thanks

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

Please be wary of any PMs you receive as they may be scams.

 

[dxnys]

Yes I understand that, even on empire market it can be fucking scam. I'm asking how people can find real fentanyl for regular price in all those scams.

 

[Grandexit]

Other than not being able to get on empire for more than a minute, can I ask the problem you are having?

 

[dxnys]

Some troubles with the fentanyl vendors on it.

 

[Lostnotfound]

Go on the forums on the dark web and read up who is reliable etc

 

[dxnys]

Some names of forum ? There is a lot. Thanks for your answer.

 

[Lostnotfound]

DNM Avengers check out sources

 

[dxnys]

Thanks gonna take a look at it
Sourcing fentanyl is against the DNM Avenger's forum rules but I'll continue searching

 

[dxnys]

Do you guys know and have review on TLGusa ?
He's a vendor on empire, but the problem is that I can only buy to him without empire, so with a bitcoin wallet.
And I'm afraid of this method, so if you guys have review on him, you're welcome.
Thanks

 

[terry_a_davis]

I think I've heard of them but have no experience of them. Not buying on a market is more risky as there's no escrow, especially so if you have no experience of the vendor. Go to dark.fail and look for forum urls such as "Dread" (the busiest forum) and the other forums. Do a search for that vendor on those forums to see what people are saying.

 

[dxnys]

I'll do that, thanks mate. I know it's risky but a lot of markets banned F or have no vendors of F. I think Empire is the only one with reliable F on it.

 

[Yomyom]

Yes, empire ie Reliable but only if you pay through them, if you don't do that, there's no guarantee that he will send it.
If you still don't want to buy through empire, buy for the beginning a small amount of F, if you see him Reliable buy from him again

 

[dxnys]

Yeah problem is that I can't use empire for TLGusa and the others aren't reliable.
But there's a lot of sources with TLGusa on dread, I'll take a look at it and do a test order after.

 

[Deleted member 14386]

last time I checked em there was 'synthetic china white' from canada (maybe us), there were several levels of strength and afaik is sent in a plain envelope so it clears customs easy. I believe the highest strength is x and is 50/50 mannitol, it is fairly cheap

 

[Yomyom]

@dxnys
How much did you ordered? And how do you plan to use it?

 

[MissingIt]

He's a vendor on empire, but the problem is that I can only buy to him without empire, so with a bitcoin wallet.

Buying something from a vendor on these markets without escrow is 99.9% likely to be a scam. Just because they may be reputable on the site does not mean they won't scam you at the first opportunity when you have no recourse. Don't bother.

 

[terry_a_davis]

Buying something from a vendor on these markets without escrow is 99.9% likely to be a scam. Just because they may be reputable on the site does not mean they won't scam you at the first opportunity when you have no recourse. Don't bother.

Sorry I disagree I don't think it's 99.9%. I know people who have successfully bought things from a vendors own website and have never been scammed. Some of these vendors are listed on (considered to be) reliable darknet websites like https://darknetlive.com and have been for some time. Vendors sometimes create their own sites so they don't have to pay commission to the market and are not at risk of a market exit scam.

It is definitely considerably more risky yes and personally i would always choose a market with escrow facility if possible. But if this isn't possible you can minimise the risk by searching for peoples opinions of the vendors shop, find out if they've been operating for a good length of time with mostly positive feedback. I think the vendor in question here has only just opened his own website so finding much relevant info on him might not be possible as yet so it is risky.

 

[Yomyom]

Sorry I disagree I don't think it's 99.9%. I know people who has successfully bought things from a vendors own website and have never been scammed. Some of these vendors are listed on (considered to be) reliable darknet websites like https://darknetlive.com and have been for some time. Vendors sometimes create their own sites so they don't have to pay commission to the market and are not at risk of a market exit scam.

It is definitely considerably more risky yes and personally i would always choose a market with escrow facility if possible. You can minimise the risk by searching for peoples opinions of the vendors shop, find out if they've been operating for a good length of time with mostly positive feedback. I think the vendor in question here has only just opened his own website so finding much relevant info on him might not be possible as yet so it is risky.

I really doubt that.
I know two vendors from dbuy and one from empire who have a great rewires, I paid them not through the web and they tricked me.
What I understand from my experience is always no matter what, buy only from the website, there most of them won't try to trick you.

 

[MissingIt]

It is definitely considerably more risky yes and personally i would always choose a market with escrow facility if possible. But if this isn't possible you can minimise the risk by searching for peoples opinions of the vendors shop, find out if they've been operating for a good length of time with mostly positive feedback. I think the vendor in question here has only just opened his own website so finding much relevant info on him might not be possible as yet so it is risky.

Whose opinions? Completely anonymous, unverifiable opinions on Tor? And if you or anyone else does get scammed, who should believe your anonymous, completely unverifiable report?

Do not buy anything without escrow unless you are perfectly content with lighting that money on fire.

 

[terry_a_davis]

I really doubt that.
I know two vendors from dbuy and one from empire who have a great rewires, I paid them not through the web and they tricked me.
What I understand from my experience is always no matter what, buy only from the website, there most of them won't try to trick you.

Did you thoroughly research the vendors reputation on the drug forums before buying?
Did you check they had been listed on sites like https://darknetlive.com for a good length of time?
I can only say that it is my experience that buying from a vendors website after doing due diligence and didn't get ripped off.
And yes I agree like i've already stated buying on a market with escrow is always preferable.

Whose opinions? Completely anonymous, unverifiable opinions on Tor? And if you or anyone else does get scammed, who should believe your anonymous, completely unverifiable report?

Do not buy anything without escrow unless you are perfectly content with lighting that money on fire.

Everyone is anonymous on Tor yes. Your report is also anonymous and completely unverifiable so why believe you?
Do you think I'm lying? Why would I I've nothing to gain, I'm relaying my experiences of the darknet to help others.

 

[Yomyom]

Did you thoroughly research the vendors reputation on the drug forums before buying?
Did you check they had been listed on sites like https://darknetlive.com for a good length of time?
I can only say that is my experience that I know of persons buying from a vendors website after doing due diligence and they didn't get ripped off.

No, I did not.
I do look up the rewires, all of them was good, it was the best I see there.
The only thing I know is from my experience, I'm very new to all the darknet thing.

But now when I think about maybe you right, I read an article that tells in 2018 a woman from my country ordered nembutal from the regular web, and it's actually came (I tried to find the website, but I couldn't find it anywhere)

 

[MissingIt]

Everyone is anonymous on Tor yes. Your report is also anonymous and completely unverifiable so why believe you?
Do you think I'm lying? Why would I I've nothing to gain, I'm relaying my experiences of the darknet to help others.

I am not reporting anything, I am warning people. You are encouraging people to make foolish decisions. You may very well be one of the dealers listed on whatever unscrupulous site you linked to, looking for more marks. The fact that you've even dug further in and tried to turn this on me makes you significantly more suspicious. "ohh I've got nothing to gain, trust me." Yeah right.

 

[terry_a_davis]

No, I did not.
I do look up the rewires, all of them was good, it was the best I see there.
The only thing I know is from my experience, I'm very new to all the darknet thing.

But now when I think about maybe you right, I read an article that tells in 2018 a woman from my country ordered nembutal from the regular web, and it's actually came (I tried to find the website, but I couldn't find it anywhere)

I've never heard of N being bought from the clearnet, surprised at that.

 

[Yomyom]

I've never heard of N being bought from the clearnet, surprised at that.

If you want to read the article there it is
But the website is no longer exists
Be careful from the photographs of the website, scammers use the same photo (from experience)

The article in Hebrew, you can use Google translate

התאבדות: אתר בחו"ל מוכר ערכות התאבדות והישראלים קונים

באתר מוצעות כמה שיטות להתאבדות מהירה ונטולת כאבים - זריקה, כדורים וקוקטייל. ישראלית שרכשה ערכה ורצתה להתאבד: "זו סכנת חיים ממשית. מעודדים צעירים להתאבד". המשטרה פתחה בחקירה

mobile.mako.co.il

 

[terry_a_davis]

I am not reporting anything, I am warning people. You are encouraging people to make foolish decisions. You may very well be one of the dealers listed on whatever unscrupulous site you linked to, looking for more marks. The fact that you've even dug further in and tried to turn this on me makes you significantly more suspicious. "ohh I've got nothing to gain, trust me." Yeah right.

You are encouraging people to make foolish decisions
Are you serious? I've stated twice that buying from the market is always best, but if that's not possible and you carry out very careful checks you minimise the risks of getting scammed by buying from a vendor website.

You may very well be one of the dealers listed on whatever unscrupulous site you linked to
That website is the very first website listed on dark.fail (it lists the onion version but not everyone is using Tor), which is a very trusted website in itself. Check my post history, i've never mentioned this website in 276 posts so if i'm a dealer i'm not doing a very good job of publicising it.

The fact that you've even dug further in and tried to turn this on me makes you significantly more suspicious
You made the claim that 99.9% of vendor websites are scams, in my experience they are not if you are careful.

 

[toomuchtimetodie]

Getting ripped off on DNMKTS is awful I'm dependant on benzos so it's literally the only place you can score them legit.... But not like old silk rd days, now so many mirror sites identical to the real ones so you pay money in and don't see it again, you have selective scammers, risk of postman stealing it or it getting seized (though that one is a rarity), they can be put through thieving neighbors. It's just a huge gamble. I must've lost £3000 last year, actually a reason I need to ctb sooner than planned because it has ruined me financially and I can't even enjoy a TV show easy anymore, my existence is half spent trying to get hold of my tablets. The nostalgia I'm getting now from 2011- 2015 before there became so many scams.

Oh and not to mention Bitcoin. Just checked my wallet for the first time in a few weeks and see it's dropped I had over 360$ and am down to 190.
There's definitely something going on in existence I've had nothing but a shit show of 'bad luck' I now no longer believe in luck. Something's orchestrated my suffering.