Discussion Opioid Method is not actually unreliable

[nottinghams]

sure, it can be, if you don't know how to use drugs - but this shit is killer. You cannot fake that no matter how much journalists overreact.

I even have an uncle who works in a funeral home in West Virginia, and a large amount of the deaths they take care of are from fentanyl or opioids, or stuff hidden in them. It's no joke.


But I have found it's not fentanyl at least you should be using anymore. If you buy that shit purposefully, it's not fentanyl. For some reason, I don't know. I have just been on the dark web and talking to people.
I have gathered that either a massive amount of heroin on a body that has no tolerance to it

Or nitazenes, which can often be more powerful and because of their nature as RCs would be toyed and fucked with like fentanyl compounds.

it's such a fatal drug that I am surprised you have to choose a specific route of administration - in my previous attempt i believe the main problem was that i wasnt taking "fentanyl" - but I have been told anything that reaches your blood vessels immediately is the best. IV, smoking, and snorting, are what experienced users on this site have told me.

As for time alone, if an overdose is fatal, your window to be cured with Narcan is no more than an hour.
As long as you were taking an amount, you are sure is fatal. That's all the time you need to allow yourself.
The difference it seems is not the amount of hours you have alone, but whether or not your dose is enough to be fatal.
This also to me would probably make the risk of brain damage almost null because you'd be dead before anyone could revive you.
(I would hope that people I knew would put me out of my misery anyway LOL)

so the only things 'unreliable' about this method I see are

lack of access (and lack of knowledge about getting drugs, which is understandable)
lack of knowledge on drug use (like with RoAs, & misinformation on how fast it is whilst unconscious)

otherwise its a surefire way to go.

Disclaimer: I am not a medical pro or have been using drugs for nearly as long as some users on this site.
But I have been trying for many months now to choose a way to die.
and have experience using the darkweb in that time.
(and in my opinion a lot of this is just base level knowledge from a little bit of research)
Just putting this here because I do not wish to spread misinformation as if its gospel.


Please be nice and correct me if I'm wrong. Wanted to share this

 

[be or not to be]

I would like to know if having access to slow-release hydromorphone could do something. For example, taking 640 MG, 60 pills.

 

[AuroraB]

I live in a big city full of F (street-F ...whatever it really is) users who use all day long on the streets, pass out standing up bent over for hours, wake up, get food, and do it again the next day. Out of the 1000s of addicts on the streets in this city, we have a few deaths per week. If it were true that F meant certain death, there would be no more F addicts, they'd all be dead by now.

 

[alienfreak]

I agree, it is an excellent method. It causes euphoria and a sense of well-being so it is probably very peaceful. I have read many stories of overdose survivors and it sounds like most of them just fall asleep and dont remember any pain. Some users that vomit dont even find that highly unpleasant because of the euphoria

I live in a big city full of F (street-F ...whatever it really is) users who use all day long on the streets, pass out standing up bent over for hours, wake up, get food, and do it again the next day. Out of the 1000s of addicts on the streets in this city, we have a few deaths per week. If it were true that F meant certain death, there would be no more F addicts, they'd all be dead by now.

The dose makes the poison. People on the street arent trying to overdose. If you intentionally overdose on F or H in an isolated place, by insufflation or injection, where you wont get narcan'd then it's lights out. If swallowing it then maybe you just vomit too much of it up of course

 

[ham and potatoes]

f it were true that F meant certain death, there would be no more F addicts, they'd all be dead by now.

That's because they are trying to get high, not die.
Opioid overdoses kill like 100,000 people in the US a year.
So yeah, you get some pretty pure F or zenes, and want to kill yourself with it, I'm sure it would work

 

[theolivanderroach]

That would be my ideal way to ctb. My only issue is my tolerance. I've been using opioids since high school to get high or just recklessly not caring if I OD. I've felt my breathing get super slow and even stop at some points but I was fine. One time I got super drunk, took benzos, ambien, and injected pure hydromorphone. I wasn't even trying to OD I just wanted to get as fucked up as possible but also of course I don't care if I died in the process. I woke up just fine :/ I think I'd have to take an insane amount at this point which I don't have the money for. I've been sober for about 5 months now hopefully to get my tolerance down (not to ctb this way but to enjoy a good high before I do). I swear there's a curse that people trying to OD don't, and those who do weren't trying to.

 

[AuroraB]

I agree, it is an excellent method. It causes euphoria and a sense of well-being so it is probably very peaceful. I have read many stories of overdose survivors and it sounds like most of them just fall asleep and dont remember any pain. Some users that vomit dont even find that highly unpleasant because of the euphoria


The dose makes the poison. People on the street arent trying to overdose. If you intentionally overdose on F or H in an isolated place, by insufflation or injection, where you wont get narcan'd then it's lights out. If swallowing it then maybe you just vomit too much of up of course

That's because they are trying to get high, not die.
Opioid overdoses kill like 100,000 people in the US a year.
So yeah, you get some pretty pure F or zenes, and want to kill yourself with it, I'm sure it would work

my understanding is it takes about the size of a grain of rice to kill ya...i walk these mean streets and these folks are puffing away more than a grain of rice. come visit any west coast city and go to the worst neighborhoods, and you'll see.

 

[rotciv]

You can buy pure non-illegal nitazenes stronger than fentanyl and use it in many ways. If you dissolve 500mg of any nitazene in DMSO and apply in the skin i garantee that u never wake up again.

 

[EvisceratedJester]

The dose makes the poison. People on the street arent trying to overdose. If you intentionally overdose on F or H in an isolated place, by insufflation or injection, where you wont get narcan'd then it's lights out. If swallowing it then maybe you just vomit too much of it up of course

I also feel like it's important to note that street fent also isn't pure, it's cut. So some batches may have more fent in them than others. I'd imagine that this would also play a role in the likelihood of someone dying from a fent overdose. We also need to take into consideration tolerance. A fent addict is likely to build up a tolerance for the drug overtime, meaning that it would take a larger amount of it in order for them to OD. So along with intentions, the average fent addict would also require a higher dosage to OD, making the chances of them dying as due to fent a bit smaller.

my understanding is it takes about the size of a grain of rice to kill ya...i walk these mean streets and these folks are puffing away more than a grain of rice.

Based on lab results, 2 out of 5 seized counterfeit pills contain lethal doses7, which the DEA defines as being 2 mg of fentanyl8. However, the different forms of lab-created fentanyl and its analogs, along with it being often combined with other illicit drugs, make it very difficult to determine a specific amount that would lead to death. Fentanyl also affects individuals differently, so what might be fatal for one person might not be for another.

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Also, I don't know how there being fent addicts means anything here. Even if a bunch of fent addicts were to die today there would a whole bunch of new ones coming their way shortly afterwards. That doesn't disprove the fact that deaths from synthetic opioids have been on the raise, with most of those deaths being from fentanyl. In 2022, there was reported to be 73,838 deaths involving synthetic opioid overdoses in the US, a large portion of which were as a result of illicitly manufactured fentanyl.

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From what I know OP, the success rate for ctbing via opioid OD is around a low to moderate one. I know that on lostallhope its lethality is listed at around 49.4%. Still, it's relative risk is higher when it comes to suicide completion in comparison to many other suicide methods involving poisoning/ODing (though, it is important to note that 45% of fatal drug poisonings include unknown drugs). It should be noted that the study had some limitations, such as it being hampered by coding deficiencies in mortality and hospital data. There may also be some conflicts of interest, such as funding from the AB InBev foundation which has links to the alcohol industry.

 

[AuroraB]

You can buy pure non-illegal nitazenes stronger than fentanyl and use it in many ways. If you dissolve 500mg of any nitazene in DMSO and apply in the skin i garantee that u never wake up again.

Curious in which country these aren't illegal and readily able to obtain. Never heard of this before. Thanks.

 

[rotciv]

Curious in which country these aren't illegal and readily able to obtain. Never heard of this before. Thanks.

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