RileyTanaka

RileyTanaka

ill / failure
Mar 20, 2020
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Before chronic illness ravaged my life, I had longstanding battles with depression, mood instability, and hypersensitivity dating back to adolescence. Like so many here, I went through the obligatory merry-go-round of therapy and psychiatric medications. And while going through this legally sanctioned experimentation did have some marginal results, the symptoms of low energy, low mood, and problems relating to others persisted well into my late 20's. It's like playing on the slow setting of a game as you watch others around you progress in their careers, social lives, romantic lives, and wondering why you're indentured to living at a snail's pace with twice the effort.

There was only one thing that actually did work in a noticeable and concrete way that didn't damage me neurologically - amino acid therapy. This is something I first learned about from the book "The Diet Cure" by nutritionist Julia Ross. In the book, Ross explains how symptoms of serotonin/dopamine/norepenephrine deficiency occur as a result of nutritional deficiency and manifest as mental health issues. This is partially because our modern diet doesn't allow for easy bioavailability of nutrients that might otherwise balance out our neurotransmitters. But according to Ross, the safe supplementation of precursors like L-Tryptophan, L-Tyrosine, L-Glutamine, GABA and 5-HTP/L-Tryptophan can relieve some of the more incapacitating symptoms. After reading her book, I learned I was suffering most from serotonin deficiency. After 2 days of dosing with L-tryptophan before bed, the feelings of unhappiness, low mood, and sensitivity to others decreased by about 60-65%. It was far more effective than any psych meds I'd dabbled in before, and with virtually no side effects by comparison.

If you're interested, be sure to take her "Mood Type" quiz to see what neurotransmitters you're deficient in and how you'd need to supplement (see guidelines in the table below). Be sure to take these amino acids in isolation and not in a formulation, where it would be mixed with other substances. This will help you track your progress more efficiently and with less confusion. Not to mention it's safer. For those on psych meds now, I recommend only trying this therapy when you've titrated off so there is no possible interaction.

Obviously this is not a cure all so manage your expectations; this isn't a panacea but a form of symptom management. Give it a try for about 2-3 days, gradually increasing your dose at stopping at a reasonable amount (see guidelines below). Everyone will react differently, so take note of how your mind and body respond.

Disclaimer: I'm not a doctor/psychiatrist, so please take my recommendation as anecdotal and not as medical advice.
 

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I think a substantial proportion of what gets diagnosed as mental health issues is probably down to shit diet, stopping our biochemistry from adapting by overloading it with junk. Not always, ofc, as you say, not a panacea. Worth exploring though. I'll read the website, thanks.
 
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RileyTanaka

RileyTanaka

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Mar 20, 2020
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Because it's not easy to find on her official website, here is the PDF link to the self-test: https://www.integrativepsychiatry.net/neurotransmitter_imbalance_quiz.html
I think a substantial proportion of what gets diagnosed as mental health issues is probably down to shit diet, stopping our biochemistry from adapting by overloading it with junk. Not always, ofc, as you say, not a panacea. Worth exploring though. I'll read the website, thanks.
I hope you find it helpful. The etiology of mental illness is a complex puzzle that scientists haven't quite solved. Nutrition is definitely a piece of the puzzle, alongside the elimination of toxins, negative pathogens, and other environmental aggravators that result in neuropsychological symptoms. I do hope people here give this a try - it's a relatively safe, powerful tool for the old mental health toolbox.
 
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I think a substantial proportion of what gets diagnosed as mental health issues is probably down to shit diet, stopping our biochemistry from adapting by overloading it with junk. Not always, ofc, as you say, not a panacea. Worth exploring though. I'll read the website, thanks.
I always wanted to belive this; the problem is, my mood can change so rapidly, depending on circumstances, that it always seemed inplausible. That said, – I have never experienced what others describe MDD to be like, i.e. constant low mood, anhedonia, numbness, … over weeks and months.
 
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RileyTanaka

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I always wanted to belive this; the problem is, my mood can change so rapidly, depending on circumstances, that it always seemed inplausible. That said, – I have never experienced what others describe MDD to be like, i.e. constant low mood, anhedonia, numbness, … over weeks and months.
Please look into lithium orotate, as it may help you.
 
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iknowwhatyouredoing

iknowwhatyouredoing

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Jan 30, 2020
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does anyone here have any experience with L-theanine? I was recommended by a friend and have taken it every day for a week or so but didn't notice that much of a difference.
 
RileyTanaka

RileyTanaka

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Mar 20, 2020
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does anyone here have any experience with L-theanine? I was recommended by a friend and have taken it every day for a week or so but didn't notice that much of a difference.
I've never taken theanine, but I've seen it discussed in Sensei's thread I think. When the search function comes back on, you should be able to find some comments on it. :)
 
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dundyfundy

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Saw your post in another thread, going to try this - I was always interested in nootropics. But that mood test site I scored on everything, recommends to use a formula, "brain balance ip formula" - seems like a bit of a marketing thing tbh.

Do you still recommend trying one at a time?

I scored:
  • part 1 - 25/41 seratonin - says supplement if above 12 score
  • part 2 - 15/20 dopamin - above 6, supplement
  • part 3 - 15/28 gaba - above 8, supplement
  • part 4 - 6 - 8 (not sure about 1q) / 18 endorphn/PEA - above 6, supplement

Do you have a recommendation to try first? I tried 5-HTP before, was good listing on amazon so don't think it was shady, but it made me wake up in extreme manic panic in the middle of the night.

I have also tried seratonin - I can't remember doses atm, I think 10mg pill, and it helps me "relax" in bed, I don't feel jittery to move about etc, but after few hours I always wake up. But those few hours are amazing deep sleep. I think 5mg works better though, so I might bring that in.
 
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LittleJem

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I had two of the most calm and happiest weeks of my life on L-Tryptophan. I wish it kept working for me, but am going to try and take it again longer term. My psychiatrist said he used to prescribe it on the NHS - until it was banned (which was actually due to a contaminated batch). He used to prescribe it alongside medication. He was surprised when I told him you can buy it in any health food store, and recommended I tried it.
 
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hi, thanks for this topic. I will have a look at the quiz and see how it goes.
 

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