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I have been ruminating over the fact that I might have some sort of brain damage after trying and falling partial suspension so many times. I've learned that aneurysms or strokes can happen even if you don't pass out. I know it's stupid to care about this if I want to CTB after all but now I can't stop thinking that I might have damaged my brain somehow.
I know it's a stupid vent and I'm sorry
 
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I'm so fu*king scared of brain damage too.

Also, my method will probably be partial hanging. Damn.
 
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DrWh033

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There is no way you can cause an aneurysm by partial hanging. Even an embolic stroke is super unlikely unless you manage to dissect your carotid, Impossible. How I know? It is my job to know. Anoxic permanent brain damage is impossible too. You would have been dead or hospitalised in ICU already. Yes it is irrational.
 
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Check out what this guy said here https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/partial-hanging-brain-damage.56741/

Let me explain. When you apply partial pressure to your neck, you're blocking off your jugular veins before your carotid arteries because the carotids are deeper and require more pressure to block. When the jugulars are blocked but the carotids aren't, this means blood is being pumped into the brain with no way out. This can cause aneurysms to form and burst, or cause strokes to manifest in other ways. My advice would be to not play around with that rope unless you're willing to CTB.
 
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DrWh033

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Bulshit. The venous drainage of the brain is not exclusively relying in the jugulars. And yes I am what you think I am
 
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I have been ruminating over the fact that I might have some sort of brain damage after trying and falling partial suspension so many times. I've learned that aneurysms or strokes can happen even if you don't pass out. I know it's stupid to care about this if I want to CTB after all but now I can't stop thinking that I might have damaged my brain somehow.
I know it's a stupid vent and I'm sorry
This isn't a stupid question. I feared that bc after several attempts I developed vertigo (doctors think it's migraines) and constant tinnitus. I'd like to think it's other causes but idk. I don't think you can have a stroke or anything unless you have complete oxygen cut off, but I'm no doctor. I also have OCD so i feel your pain.
 
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I feel a little dizzy and my extremities are a little numb. Anyway I think it's all in my head. Could be 100 different other things. But that explanation about closing the jugulars and not the carotyd (when you get a exploding head feeling) causing an aneurysm or a stroke really made sense to me. People also go a little deaf when trying this method, so things are going on even if you remain conscious
This isn't a stupid question. I feared that bc after several attempts I developed vertigo (doctors think it's migraines) and constant tinnitus. I'd like to think it's other causes but idk. I don't think you can have a stroke or anything unless you have complete oxygen cut off, but I'm no doctor. I also have OCD so i feel your pain.
Did you first experience the Tinnitus while doing partial?
 
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This guy got a hemorrhage on his face after trying partial
 
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yeahwellso

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So why wouldn't the blood vessels in the brain also burst
Because tiny, superficial bloodvessels in your skin are completely different things than blood vessels in your brain.
 
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This isn't a stupid question , I also tried partial hanging many time with no luck, and ever since I tried it I feel like a different person, it made me numb and emotionless after I attempted, and also I became super apathetic with no feelings for anything , and now nothing seems to make me happy anymore, I cant even get drunk , yes I can take a glass of alcohol and drink it but I dont feel any of the "good" mental effects anymore, same with other intoxicants as well and it really sux living like this , it could be some sort of brain damage, I think it too but it could also be related to dopamine or something, like my dopamine levels must have exceeded and must be at the peak or something
 
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This isn't a stupid question , I also tried partial hanging many time with no luck, and ever since I tried it I feel like a different person, it made me numb and emotionless after I attempted, and also I became super apathetic with no feelings for anything , and now nothing seems to make me happy anymore, I cant even get drunk , yes I can take a glass of alcohol and drink it but I dont feel any of the "good" mental effects anymore, same with other intoxicants as well and it really sux living like this , it could be some sort of brain damage, I think it too but it could also be related to dopamine or something, like my dopamine levels must have exceeded and must be at the peak or something
Nothing to do with your partial attempt
 
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This isn't a stupid question , I also tried partial hanging many time with no luck, and ever since I tried it I feel like a different person, it made me numb and emotionless after I attempted, and also I became super apathetic with no feelings for anything , and now nothing seems to make me happy anymore, I cant even get drunk , yes I can take a glass of alcohol and drink it but I dont feel any of the "good" mental effects anymore, same with other intoxicants as well and it really sux living like this , it could be some sort of brain damage, I think it too but it could also be related to dopamine or something, like my dopamine levels must have exceeded and must be at the peak or something
Hey.. I think we have spoke once or twice before about how antidepressants have damaged us both. Those very symptoms you mention they are all damage caused by meds. Especially the alcohol not giving you the euphoric feeling anymore. I highly doubt partial has caused those symptoms.. But correct me if I'm wrong if these symptoms started straight after your attempt?
 
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EmptyManForever

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Nothing to do with your partial attempt
Are you sure? How do you know this? Have you also tried partial and not feel these effects? It maybe also because I've been suffocating myself with partial many times to get a mild "high" ,this might have rewired my brain or something I dunno ,but nonetheless i feel so empty

Those very symptoms you mention they are all damage caused by meds. Especially the alcohol not giving you the euphoric feeling anymore. I highly doubt partial has caused those symptoms.. But correct me if I'm wrong if these symptoms started straight after your attempt?
I know meds can cause this too but after I stopped meds I could feel pleasure once again, but I was angry at the doctors for giving these meds for me, so after that I tried partial hanging cuz I couldn't handle life anymore knowing that doctors had given me poison, and after trying partial yes I lost my ability to feel pleasure again , I dunno maybe I'm wrong
 
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Are you sure? How do you know this? Have you also tried partial and not feel these effects? It maybe also because I've been suffocating myself with partial many times to get a mild "high" ,this might have rewired my brain or something I dunno ,but nonetheless i feel so empty


I know meds can cause this too but after I stopped meds I could feel pleasure once again, but I was angry at the doctors for giving these meds for me, so after that I tried partial hanging cuz I couldn't handle life anymore knowing that doctors had given me poison, and after trying partial yes I lost my ability to feel pleasure again , I dunno maybe I'm wrong
What was the time gap between stopping meds and attempting partial hanging? What made you you so angry about the doctors giving you the meds? I would say in my experience.. since trying partial 3 times, I now have pretty bad memory loss I can't think as clearly.
And yes way before attempting partial hanging.. I had a serious blunted response to alcohol (could drink about 10 beers and barley feel anything) , severe emotional numbness.. And loss of sex drive/function.. all caused by SSRIs.. They fuck your dopmaine/serotonin receptors and change your genetics and much more.
What was the time gap between stopping meds and attempting partial hanging? What made you you so angry about the doctors giving you the meds? I would say in my experience.. since trying partial 3 times, I now have pretty bad memory loss I can't think as clearly.
And yes way before attempting partial hanging.. I had a serious blunted response to alcohol (could drink about 10 beers and barley feel anything) , severe emotional numbness.. And loss of sex drive/function.. all caused by SSRIs.. They fuck your dopmaine/serotonin receptors and change your genetics and much more.
Fancy a private chat? Just seems like we have very similar experiences ( meds/partial hanging)... It may be beneficial for us both to figure out why we feel so empty. I think antidepressants are mainly to blame here but partial would not of helped the matter.
 
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What was the time gap between stopping meds and attempting partial hanging? What made you you so angry about the doctors giving you the meds? I would say in my experience.. since trying partial 3 times, I now have pretty bad memory loss I can't think as clearly.
Few weeks after I stopped meds I was furious and I felt like I was losing my mind,that's when I tried partial, I was angry at the doctors because they ruined my life, they gave me those meds without even informing me about the serious side effects of them, and when I found out about those meds and what they can do to a person I was really mad at them for giving me these shitty drugs, those drugs made me numb and stopped me from feeling pleasure and also took away the beautiful personality I had back then , and moreover I couldn't get drunk while on those meds and also my sex drive was zero while on those meds ,so yeah I was angry, who wouldn't be? And I also experience memory loss after attempting partial and I also cant think deeply anymore , living like this is nothing but hell
 
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What was the time gap between stopping meds and attempting partial hanging? What made you you so angry about the doctors giving you the meds? I would say in my experience.. since trying partial 3 times, I now have pretty bad memory loss I can't think as clearly.
And yes way before attempting partial hanging.. I had a serious blunted response to alcohol (could drink about 10 beers and barley feel anything) , severe emotional numbness.. And loss of sex drive/function.. all caused by SSRIs.. They fuck your dopmaine/serotonin receptors and change your genetics and much more.

Fancy a private chat? Just seems like we have very similar experiences ( meds/partial hanging)... It may be beneficial for us both to figure out why we feel so empty. I think antidepressants are mainly to blame here but partial would not of helped the matter.
I'm interested as well.
 
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Few weeks after I stopped meds I was furious and I felt like I was losing my mind,that's when I tried partial, I was angry at the doctors because they ruined my life, they gave me those meds without even informing me about the serious side effects of them, and when I found out about those meds and what they can do to a person I was really mad at them for giving me these shitty drugs, those drugs made me numb and stopped me from feeling pleasure and also took away the beautiful personality I had back then , and moreover I couldn't get drunk while on those meds and also my sex drive was zero while on those meds ,so yeah I was angry, who wouldn't be? And I also experience memory loss after attempting partial and I also cant think deeply anymore , living like this is nothing but hell
Right now this makes more sense. I take it they where SSRIs or antipsychotics. Correct! while on them you will feel completely numb they will also kill your sex drive/function/sensation.

Sadly.. when you stop the treatment these effects continue for years its permanent alot of the time. Some people can recover slightly but you will never be your true self again very far from it.

The feeling of loosing your mind would have been the withdrawal its fucking awful. Even if you didn't attempt partial hanging.. you would still have been left in the state you are in now ( it can take a few months to hit your baseline after stopping meds) ( Brain receptors get left completley damaged) (many more changes occur but I won't go on). Emotionally numb, change of personality, no natural response to drugs/alcohol like you did before the treatment ( I have all of this before attempting partial). I must ask what is your sexual function/drive like now?

As for the partial hanging.. I beleive this has caused me some memory loss but not exacerbated the damage from the psyc drugs.
I think 90% of your symptoms are related to the drugs. I hope this has helped you in some way.. I hope it hasn't made you feel worse.
 
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I have all of this before attempting partial)
Seriously? You have it too? I know the feeling, do you still have it ? And for how long have you had these symptoms? I've had it for 3 years now, will be 4 years this 2021 , and my sex drive comes and goes , it comes back stronger if I abstain from it for a couple of days, but then it goes back to zero, I know living like this must be hell for you too, fuck those doctors and their stupid poison drugs, that's all I can say , but then again I've made up my mind with this new version of me , I gotta either ctb or live like this forever , I'm okay with anything , cuz I dont care about anything anymore, I used to be an energetic fun loving person , and very emotional but that person is dead now, I'm like a zombie now , no emotion, no feelings, cant think properly anymore, if the system was fair then in a perfect peaceful world those doctors should be locked up for what they've done and their stupid psych drugs should be illegal , but no sadly this is not a perfect peaceful world ,its an unfair, corrupt world with no say to nature and peace ,I dunno if I'm making sense , and thanks for replying
 
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rs929

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Why are people experiencing tingling and tinnitus when attempting partial? Just curious

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/why-did-you-fail-at-partial-hanging.57630/
 
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I have been ruminating over the fact that I might have some sort of brain damage after trying and falling partial suspension so many times. I've learned that aneurysms or strokes can happen even if you don't pass out. I know it's stupid to care about this if I want to CTB after all but now I can't stop thinking that I might have damaged my brain somehow.
I know it's a stupid vent and I'm sorry
Is there a distinction between hypoxic-ischemic event by proxy and non-fatal strangulation or partial strangulation? The mechanisms are the same physiologically, right?

Unfortunately, there are currently no objective scientific studies on non-fatal partial strangulation and neuro psychological long term behavioral effects linked to brain damage. There is therefore a need to increase the data with controlled scientific studies in order to learn more about it.

Doubtlessly, repeated non-fatal partial strangulation to the point of unconsciousness (domestic violence assault) reveals similar neurological squeala as expected in hypoxic-eschemic events, according to the available literature.

I was interested to try and understand it a little better. The research indicates your concern is substantiated.
 
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rs929

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Shit, this was my fav method, I'm scared of getting brain dmg now
 
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Shit, this was my fav method, I'm scared of getting brain dmg now
Lots of people do something like it all of the time during sex. They seem fine?
 
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Seriously? You have it too? I know the feeling, do you still have it ? And for how long have you had these symptoms? I've had it for 3 years now, will be 4 years this 2021 , and my sex drive comes and goes , it comes back stronger if I abstain from it for a couple of days, but then it goes back to zero, I know living like this must be hell for you too, fuck those doctors and their stupid poison drugs, that's all I can say , but then again I've made up my mind with this new version of me , I gotta either ctb or live like this forever , I'm okay with anything , cuz I dont care about anything anymore, I used to be an energetic fun loving person , and very emotional but that person is dead now, I'm like a zombie now , no emotion, no feelings, cant think properly anymore, if the system was fair then in a perfect peaceful world those doctors should be locked up for what they've done and their stupid psych drugs should be illegal , but no sadly this is not a perfect peaceful world ,its an unfair, corrupt world with no say to nature and peace ,I dunno if I'm making sense , and thanks for replying
Sorry I just realised I never replied to you. Yes iv had exactly this ever since I took SSRIs.. Its been two years since I stopped and I'm still exactly the same. Prior to this I was full of emotion! I loved life other than my anxiety (reason I took meds) Very high sex drive! my whole personality is gone now I feel buried alive! This is exactly what psyc drugs do to people. I feel your pain it's incredibly hard to live like this. You may want to look up PSSD I think you could be suffering with this unfortunately.
 
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I feel a little dizzy and my extremities are a little numb. Anyway I think it's all in my head. Could be 100 different other things. But that explanation about closing the jugulars and not the carotyd (when you get a exploding head feeling) causing an aneurysm or a stroke really made sense to me. People also go a little deaf when trying this method, so things are going on even if you remain conscious

Did you first experience the Tinnitus while doing partial?
Sorry I only saw this today. I get tingling and numbness too but was told by doctors it could be related to MS or migraines. I've heard it could definitely be due to anxiety (esp. with panic disorder) but my doctors didn't think that was my case. I've heard about hearing loss but could never find a definite answer. It seems kind of random as to who that happens to. I had extreme tinnitus during it (tried multiple times) but my tinnitus was never bad until this year after my first episode of vertigo.
 
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I totally get the fear behind a failed attempt, the whole point is to end it not to accidentally botch it and be stuck here with zero way out ruining someone else's life .
 

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