Not wanting my body to be found

[HereToday]

Everyone in my life was abusive, most of all my parents. The more I think about it, I don't want to give anyone the satisfaction of seeing me dead or holding a bullshit funeral for attention, when everyone treated me like shit while I was alive. I wish I could just disappear into thin air.

I was considering ctb on the other side of the world and burning my ID so I couldn't be identified. But apparently law enforcement would be able to track me down by using my passport, and identify me from dental records. Don't these people have anything better to do? Like focusing on real crime rather than trying to find someone who clearly doesn't want to be found.

Anyway I guess I'm asking if anyone knows how I can just disappear, if that's even possible

 

[Rhyme]

I've had really light discussion with another person on this topic and the only thing we could come up with was CTB out in the wilderness, which just might not be pleasant/an option depending on circumstances.

 

[CynicalHopelessness]

Like focusing on real crime rather than trying to find someone who clearly doesn't want to be found.

Well to be honest, real murderers wouldn't want their victim's bodies to be found either.

I don't think there's an accessible way to just disappear, but maybe shotgun to the mouth would at least not let them see your body. Or you could jump from a huge height, so the corpse is severely disfigured.

In my country, even semi-decayed bodies in the wilderness and deformed drowned people's bodies are found and identified, despite their appearance. And my country isn't even trying much.

 

[Carina]

People have a drive to identify a body because the thought is, they are someone's loved one. It can eat at them, make them do whatever they can to help.

And really, if you left the country: your passport, credit cards just put your location at a specific location. Used cash (if even possible)? Just got put on a watch list, so tracked even more. One-way? tracked more (if even possible). so your start/stop is known.
Then you went missing, they'll pull your records, they'll see your journey, see where you're probably at.

People get eaten by wildlife? sure, but it's possible bones/etc could be discovered and identified.


But let's say I'm writing a book where I wanted a person to be gone totally. I'd only have 2 options, sunk to bottom of ocean in unknown location, fallen into volcano. But even then... you could still be discovered eventually. And even those aren't exactly easy to do due to accessibility. Actually next to impossible without people knowing I think.

 

[HereToday]

I've had really light discussion with another person on this topic and the only thing we could come up with was CTB out in the wilderness, which just might not be pleasant/an option depending on circumstances.

I guess a forest is an option, but you still risk of being found by a hiker

 

[Finis Autem Spero]

I agree with @Rhyme deep wilderness in your own country, or at least as deep as you can. If you're worried about hikers, familiarise yourself with well-known trails and try to pick a point far from any. Wearing earthy colours might help also.

My own plan was to be in the woods or on the cliffs, but I just didn't want anyone I know finding me as opposed to anyone at all.

 

[HereToday]

Well to be honest, real murderers wouldn't want their victim's bodies to be found either.

I don't think there's an accessible way to just disappear, but maybe shotgun to the mouth would at least not let them see your body. Or you could jump from a huge height, so the corpse is severely disfigured.

In my country, even semi-decayed bodies in the wilderness and deformed drowned people's bodies are found and identified, despite their appearance. And my country isn't even trying much.

Lol well I understand tracking down a murderer since they, you know, murdered someone. I don't understand tracking someone down for no reason.
I think the only option to truly disappear and guarantee you'll never be found is to take a boat out into the ocean and ctb there. I'd probably take N then jump overboard, but I'd be worried about feeling myself drowning

 

[CynicalHopelessness]

I don't understand tracking someone down for no reason.

Tracking the murderer usually starts with tracking the victim's body. Ends with the body in case of suicide.

 

[Carina]

Tracking the murderer usually starts with tracking the victim's body. Ends with the body in case of suicide.

That actually raises one of the things too with the original question of why: they don't know a suicide is a suicide until they find the body--so they potentially think you went missing because you were murdered!

 

[HereToday]

Tracking the murderer usually starts with tracking the victim's body. Ends with the body in case of suicide.

I didn't say I'd inform anyone I was going to do it though, so how would they know there's a body to look for? Are we really defending the government tracking down law abiding citizens now?

 

[Carina]

I didn't say I'd inform anyone I was going to do it though, so how would they know there's a body to look for? Are we really defending the government tracking down law abiding citizens now?

Unless you're homeless, no job, no one who ever calls you--someone will report you missing.

 

[HereToday]

That actually raises one of the things too with the original question of why: they don't know a suicide is a suicide until they find the body--so they potentially think you went missing because you were murdered!

That may apply to people who have family or friends who care about them, doesn't apply to me. I barely talk to anyone as it is, they'd simply think I finally cut them off

Unless you're homeless, no job, no one who ever calls you--someone will report you missing.

No one will. If they would, I wouldn't be considering it.

So moving back to the question at hand, if anyone has any other suggestions please let me know. It's looking like the forest or ocean are the only options. The former still runs the risk of being found eventually, and the latter worries me about being conscious while drowning

 

[HopeDiesLast]

The problem with someone just vanishing is that the assumption is that they fell victim to a crime or are lost or are otherwise in need of assistance. Authorities are going to attempt to locate you whether you like it or not.

If you truly believe that there's NOBODY who would notice you're missing then I guess you have a point. But you might be surprised how many people do care about you...or at the very least are nosey enough to notice.

I truly wish you had someone in your life who loves and cares about you. FWIW, I care about you, and this community cares about you. But I understand that might not be enough.

 

[BipolarExpat]

"Each year, an average of 2,250 people disappear in Alaska, twice the national average. Some of these people are found alive and well, and the remains of others are found, but many disappear without a trace."

 

[voyager]

I suppose the best way is to first make clear that you are leaving on your own accord and don't intend to come back. So, no one suspects murder and the authorities won't make such a big deal, and the people who know you will have some sort of closure. Maybe followed up by a suicide note/email later on.

There are woods which are extremely deep, places which are really desolate. The animals could have a go at you and they might not be able to trace it back. Keep in mind dental records, though. Other than that, some sealed off mineshafts are a possibility or of course drowning/weighing oneself down some place. An open grave is an option, too, but animals are more likely to dig you out and it's probably faster anyway. I guess the climate could also play a part, like humid heat for instance.

 

[Longman]

Lol well I understand tracking down a murderer since they, you know, murdered someone. I don't understand tracking someone down for no reason.

Murders can be masqueraded as suicides (especially if a victim is helpless: tied or drugged).

 

[HereToday]

Murders can be masqueraded as suicides (especially if a victim is helpless: tied or drugged).

I don't see how this is related to my question. I asked how to ensure my body won't be found, not about murder investigation procedures. It's nice that you all have people who care and would report you missing, I've already stated I don't so let's move on.

The problem with someone just vanishing is that the assumption is that they fell victim to a crime or are lost or are otherwise in need of assistance. Authorities are going to attempt to locate you whether you like it or not.

If you truly believe that there's NOBODY who would notice you're missing then I guess you have a point. But you might be surprised how many people do care about you...or at the very least are nosey enough to notice.

I truly wish you had someone in your life who loves and cares about you. FWIW, I care about you, and this community cares about you. But I understand that might not be enough.

As unbelievable as it may seem I could even be murdered today and no one would notice. I live in a different country completely alone, no job, no friends, nothing. Literally the only people I talk to occasionally are my parents but we have a terrible relationship and can go years without speaking. If I never spoke to them again they'd simply think I finally grew the balls to cut them off for good. Guarantee they wouldn't bother to look for me even if I was kidnapped and the kidnapper called them asking for ransom. Lol.

Having said that, they're narcissistic psychopaths. If they were informed of my death they'd give me the world's biggest/best funeral and cry rivers, all for the sake of attention and sympathy. It sickens me to think of them using my death as another part of their narcissistic play after the way they treated me while I was alive. If it wasn't for them abusing me my whole life, I wouldn't be on this website now.

Regardless of all that, I might pretend I'm moving abroad (again) or something before cutting contact. If I go with the boat idea then it could even seem like an accident while I was on 'vacation'. I don't mind if they know I died, just want my body to disappear.

Thank you so much for your kindness

"Each year, an average of 2,250 people disappear in Alaska, twice the national average. Some of these people are found alive and well, and the remains of others are found, but many disappear without a trace."

Interesting idea! Never even considered Alaska. As an added bonus, if my method didn't kill me the cold would

 

[HopeDiesLast]

Well, let's approach this from a different angle:

Neither your parents nor anyone else has legal rights to your dead body! I'm sure there's a legal document you could draw up to make your final wishes clear, for example you wish to be cremated asap or buried in an unmarked grave, no transportation of your body, no death notification to next of kin, etc.

You can have your ID and the document with you when you CTB. Your wishes should be respected. Your parents can't just walk into the morgue and run off with your body...

 

[HereToday]

Well, let's approach this from a different angle:

Neither your parents nor anyone else has legal rights to your dead body! I'm sure there's a legal document you could draw up to make your final wishes clear, for example you wish to be cremated asap or buried in an unmarked grave, no transportation of your body, no death notification to next of kin, etc.

You can have your ID and the document with you when you CTB. Your wishes should be respected. Your parents can't just walk into the morgue and run off with your body...

Seems so simple now that you've said it lol, I assumed your parents or kids would automatically be responsible for your body. Will definitely look into this. Thank you

If you're worried about hikers, familiarise yourself with well-known trails and try to pick a point far from any. Wearing earthy colours might help also.

This got me thinking... The foolproof way to ensure you won't be found after ctb in the forest, wear one of these! The PPH got nothing on me

 

[goomsoom]

I have a similar wish to disappear but for opposite reasons as ctb is considered taboo and probably it will be less traumatic for my parents if I disappear rather than seeing my body.

Fortunately police here have lot of other things to do so I won't have to put much effort.

 

[mplslonely]

I've always imagined what would happen if you CTB in the middle of an alligator swamp. All the proof should disappear fairly quickly. Most even shallow graves are never found as a random spot far off a trail should really never be disturbed again.

 

[Skyview]

I'm thinking along the same lines as you , already put my plan into action telling everyone I'm leaving the country that way I won't be missed , leaving a false trail so I can disappear into the forest or mountains. This is where it gets difficult and the point of your thread .
There is always some nosy bastard who will find your body unless you dig a shallow grave and line it with sleeping bag while you ctb. It's better if you have grass rather than soil , edge the grass to your length and width and carefully roll it up . Once you have dug enough for your body lay down and roll the grass back over you to hide yourself. At this point you are obviously hidden , along comes a nosy animal and it starts salivating and rubs it's paws gleefully...home delivery ! Hopefully a coyote or wolf runs off with your head quite some distance or into it's lair making ID (if body is found)
difficult. Your hoping something gnaws your hands so no fingerprints .
Ocean is a no no , after crabs have dined on you it's not uncommon after a while for bones to start appearing on the beach , some still have shoes attached and if your skull washes up then dental records show who you were . Maybe people will still have a funeral for you and you will know be known as bones.

 

[Throwmyselfaway]

I've thought about this. Especially with it still being winter. But I would need to drive far north.

 

[nirvana133]

I can relate to this so much, i wish to just be cremated and thrown into the ocean. I don't need any funeral for people who never cared in the first place. of course dying far away in the woods is preferable. i wish the best for you bro.

 

[Wren]

I entertained this idea for a long time. What I fancy is hiking as far north as humanly possible. Several days on foot if needed. People hike in forests but fewer people venture into icy plains and snow.

But you'd freeze solid and the body would be nicely preserved. Although it's less likely anyone would find it.

As far as I know the only 'easy' ways of making a body disappear is dissolving it in acid or feeding it to pigs. Neither can be done without involving a partner. Otherwise you will be found and identified. We are just too good at forensics at this point.

 

[HereToday]

I'm thinking along the same lines as you , already put my plan into action telling everyone I'm leaving the country that way I won't be missed , leaving a false trail so I can disappear into the forest or mountains. This is where it gets difficult and the point of your thread .
There is always some nosy bastard who will find your body unless you dig a shallow grave and line it with sleeping bag while you ctb. It's better if you have grass rather than soil , edge the grass to your length and width and carefully roll it up . Once you have dug enough for your body lay down and roll the grass back over you to hide yourself. At this point you are obviously hidden , along comes a nosy animal and it starts salivating and rubs it's paws gleefully...home delivery ! Hopefully a coyote or wolf runs off with your head quite some distance or into it's lair making ID (if body is found)
difficult. Your hoping something gnaws your hands so no fingerprints .
Ocean is a no no , after crabs have dined on you it's not uncommon after a while for bones to start appearing on the beach , some still have shoes attached and if your skull washes up then dental records show who you were . Maybe people will still have a funeral for you and you will know be known as bones.

Lol have you considered becoming a writer?
If the ocean/bones thing is true that sucks. Guess the new plan is to ctb while attached to a bungee cord and invent smart scissors that you can program to cut the cord after you die, causing you to fall into a huge container of acid

 

[Backwood_tilt]

Having said that, they're narcissistic psychopaths. If they were informed of my death they'd give me the world's biggest/best funeral and cry rivers, all for the sake of attention and sympathy. It sickens me to think of them using my death as another part of their narcissistic play after the way they treated me while I was alive. If it wasn't for them abusing me my whole life, I wouldn't be on this website now.

I'm so sorry for that. I have had a taste of this and I know just how abusive and neglectful these kinds of parents can be. Truly something that can ruin a person.

I think like the other poster said, in plain terms there's little they can do to get your body or whatever else. Plus, once you CTB, you're gone - that's it. I think the priority should be your comfort, and your desires, whereas a lot of the stuff suggested above sounds very uncomfortable to me :\

 

[Skyview]

Lol have you considered becoming a writer?
If the ocean/bones thing is true that sucks. Guess the new plan is to ctb while attached to a bungee cord and invent smart scissors that you can program to cut the cord after you die, causing you to fall into a huge container of acid

As for writing , well yes I have had some offers for a book yet it's too volatile , it's non fiction and it will cause quite a stir if released and really don't want the attention it will bring.
Like your idea of smart scissors and the vat of acid that way we will never be found , ideally hoping my body is never found . Thought of venturing to Yellowstone park where people just vanish without a trace , no clothing found , nothing at all . Some are young children who walked away from the camping area , parents frantically searching plus search and rescue and nothing is found . Mysterious to say the least , what's going on there ?