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This would be my preferred method quick and with sure results my problem is I don't have one and it's really difficult to get one without permission so stuck with the sn method any ideas?
Do you access to ammunition in your country? If so, look into slam-fire shotguns. It's basically just two tubes, a pipe cap, and a self-tapping screw as a firing pin. You will need to buy steel tubing (preferably heat treated) that can withstand at least 14,000 PSI. For 12 gauge, the pipe that the shell goes into needs to be close to but no smaller than .729in or 18.5mm diameter. The firing pin tube needs to be slightly larger than the shell tube. You slam the shell against the nail in the pipe cap to operate this device. No wooden buttstock is required for this device when used for this purpose.This would be my preferred method quick and with sure results my problem is I don't have one and it's really difficult to get one without permission so stuck with the sn method any ideas?
There are many ways of dying by suicide, and most of them are discussed extensively on this site. Use the search feature.This would be my preferred method quick and with sure results my problem is I don't have one and it's really difficult to get one without permission so stuck with the sn method any ideas?
I wish we had more accessible options without all these barriers (I know that's the point, to not have things be as accessible, but it makes us suffer more).
I would argue you already have access to the most effective suicide method (guns). If I had the chance to simply walk up to a gun store and purchase a shotgun I would already done so.
Have you been involuntarily committed into a psychiatric hospital? If no there's a good chance you still be able to purchase a firearm of your choice.
If you don't wish to turn your head into a scrambled mess there are alternatives, even very affordable ones! But I would hardly say the US doesn't provide its citizens with definitive accessible methods. They might not be ideal but they're there, gotta pay premium for the more peaceful methods like N or N2.
Oh, true! I guess I just meant in terms of overcoming survival instinct, I wish we had more accessible methods like doctor-assisted to help if the person consents.
Yep, I've been involuntarily committed. I think my name would be flagged (I forget for how many years), but there are quite a few private sellers so it wouldn't be too hard.
True about the paying premium for more peaceful methods. There are technically so many options, but they all have so many pros and cons, it can be exhausting. And there's options that don't cost anything that I've faced like jumping but the strength to complete that, the way I've hesitated... it's tough too (can only speak from my experience)
This would be my preferred method quick and with sure results my problem is I don't have one and it's really difficult to get one without permission so stuck with the sn method any ideas?
May I ask what country you're in so I can get a better idea of the legality of your situation? I'm in the US - you may think it's a breeze to get a gun here but in various cases it's not. If you're Disabled, especially with a mental illness, in some places in the US (like where I am) it can be treated as a DE FACTO crime to even attempt to apply for a firearm purchasing license (as in even if they can't legally put you in jail, they'll incarcerate you in a Psychiatric Institution for just as long if not longer).You need to see a psychiatrist first so...and it takes some months
Here's a decent video of the concept I was talking about earlier in the thread:
Super cheap to build if you have access to a power drill but you should probably put some red loctite on the threads or better yet, weld the endcap if you know how to do that.
I have lost my familyThere are many ways of dying by suicide, and most of them are discussed extensively on this site. Use the search feature.
There are also many methods that do sometimes work but for which the risk of failure is high unless you really know what you are doing. (Cutting your wrists, which you mentioned in one of your posts, is such a method. You could easily survive, but lose the use of your hand.)
Why do you want to ctb?
Europe Greece, you need permission for a shotgun it will take some months and I cannot wait that much it's decidedMay I ask what country you're in so I can get a better idea of the legality of your situation? I'm in the US - you may think it's a breeze to get a gun here but in various cases it's not. If you're Disabled, especially with a mental illness, in some places in the US (like where I am) it can be treated as a DE FACTO crime to even attempt to apply for a firearm purchasing license (as in even if they can't legally put you in jail, they'll incarcerate you in a Psychiatric Institution for just as long if not longer).
If you're in a place where attempting to legally apply for or purchase a gun carries no other consequence other than being denied - GO FOR IT! If you have to see a Psychiatrist - you can always lie to them. "Yes doctor, I am a healthy average person, my home was broken into last month and even though I would never want to use it, having a shotgun would help me feel more secure."
A shotgun to the head is the Gold Standard of CTB methods. Even if it takes months, it's worth the wait. Is there a deadline to your CTB? As in you're going to be homeless, incarcerated, incapacitated or some other set of circumstances that would make it a lot harder to CTB if you don't do it right away?
If not - I can't stress enough how much a shotgun is worth the waiting
I didn't consider that. I think you could use something like pic related to keep it steady. The barrel half of the gun shouldn't be able to move once the receiver tube is clamped down in a 360 swivel vise. I see a couple of different options on Amazon for under $20I suppose in theory there is a potential to be lethal with this but watching it being fired there is no way to keep it steady and get precise aim.
What happened? When did it happen?I have lost my family
It sounds to me as though you are rushing this. Rushing into ctb is almost never a good idea. I think you should slow down. (The option to ctb isn't going to go away if you wait for a while.)Europe Greece, you need permission for a shotgun it will take some months and I cannot wait that much it's decided
Europe Greece, you need permission for a shotgun it will take some months and I cannot wait that much it's decided
I have to say that's one of the less sensible comments I have seen on this site. There are many ways to ctb, and I can't see that using a gun is any better than many others. I certainly won't use a gun when my time comes, even though I own one, as I hate the idea of that method (for me). I want to go out peacefully.Guns are the only proper way to suicide, you will fear the afterlife way less than if you took a "slow acting" poison.
I very recently tried the SN methode and even that was still not super peaceful for me (I was still scared of hell even though I try to convince myself hard its either reincarnation or nothingness).I have to say that's one of the less sensible comments I have seen on this site. There are many ways to ctb, and I can't see that using a gun is any better than many others. I certainly won't use a gun when my time comes, even though I own one, as I hate the idea of that method (for me). I want to go out peacefully.
As for "the afterlife", I don't believe there is one.
I will ctb if my hsband dies before me. I will head far out into the wilderness, in cold weather, and fade away from hypothermia. It's a peaceful way to go. I have spent a lot of time in the outdoors, and would be happy to die there. Also I understand hypothermia, as in the past I had to take care to avoid it. That method isn't for everyone, but it's the right one for me.I very recently tried the SN methode and even that was still not super peaceful for me (I was still scared of hell even though I try to convince myself hard its either reincarnation or nothingness).
Reincarnation as in the universe resets over and over after the big crunch, I might be born a different person and all. This one isnt too crazy. Think about it, the billions of years before existence, it would probably reset again and all.I will ctb if my hsband dies befor me. I will head far out into the wilderness, in cold weather, and fade away from hypothermia. It's a peaceful way to go. I have spent a lot of time in the outdoors, and would be happy to die there. Also I understand hypothermia, as in the past I had to take care to avoid it. That method isn't for everyone, but it's the right one for me.
There are lots of other methods availabl. Nothing special about guns.
You could try growing up. Religious fantasy is for kids who aren't able to think. There is no evidence for reincarnation, or for any kind of afterlife, so why do you believe in them? Those things were invented by people who were scared of their own mortality, wanted immortality, knew they couldn't get it in this world, so invented a fantasy world where they could get it.
Nicely described and I fully agree. There are many people for whom this fantasy keeps them alive or helps them somehow survive to its end, let's not judge or advise from our perspective - each of them is different in this universe.I will ctb if my hsband dies befor me. I will head far out into the wilderness, in cold weather, and fade away from hypothermia. It's a peaceful way to go. I have spent a lot of time in the outdoors, and would be happy to die there. Also I understand hypothermia, as in the past I had to take care to avoid it. That method isn't for everyone, but it's the right one for me.
There are lots of other methods availabl. Nothing special about guns.
You could try growing up. Religious fantasy is for kids who aren't able to think. There is no evidence for reincarnation, or for any kind of afterlife, so why do you believe in them? Those things were invented by people who were scared of their own mortality, wanted immortality, knew they couldn't get it in this world, so invented a fantasy world where they could get it.
I'm not judging, but there is no way I'm going to let religious nonsense go unchallenged. It has done far too much harm in the world.Nicely described and I fully agree. There are many people for whom this fantasy keeps them alive or helps them somehow survive to its end, let's not judge or advise from our perspective - each of them is different in this universe.
There are many ways of dying by suicide, and most of them are discussed extensively on this site. Use the search feature.
There are also many methods that do sometimes work but for which the risk of failure is high unless you really know what you are doing. (Cutting your wrists, which you mentioned in one of your posts, is such a method. You could easily survive, but lose the use of your hand.)
Why do you want to ctb?
Sorry to ask but what happened and you failed?I very recently tried the SN methode and even that was still not super peaceful for me (I was still scared of hell even though I try to convince myself hard its either reincarnation or nothingness).
No I am just afraid to lie and think they will see that I am taking medication from depressionMay I ask what country you're in so I can get a better idea of the legality of your situation? I'm in the US - you may think it's a breeze to get a gun here but in various cases it's not. If you're Disabled, especially with a mental illness, in some places in the US (like where I am) it can be treated as a DE FACTO crime to even attempt to apply for a firearm purchasing license (as in even if they can't legally put you in jail, they'll incarcerate you in a Psychiatric Institution for just as long if not longer).
If you're in a place where attempting to legally apply for or purchase a gun carries no other consequence other than being denied - GO FOR IT! If you have to see a Psychiatrist - you can always lie to them. "Yes doctor, I am a healthy average person, my home was broken into last month and even though I would never want to use it, having a shotgun would help me feel more secure."
A shotgun to the head is the Gold Standard of CTB methods. Even if it takes months, it's worth the wait. Is there a deadline to your CTB? As in you're going to be homeless, incarcerated, incapacitated or some other set of circumstances that would make it a lot harder to CTB if you don't do it right away?
If not - I can't stress enough how much a shotgun is worth the wait.
No I am just afraid to lie and think they will see that I am taking medication from depressionMay I ask what country you're in so I can get a better idea of the legality of your situation? I'm in the US - you may think it's a breeze to get a gun here but in various cases it's not. If you're Disabled, especially with a mental illness, in some places in the US (like where I am) it can be treated as a DE FACTO crime to even attempt to apply for a firearm purchasing license (as in even if they can't legally put you in jail, they'll incarcerate you in a Psychiatric Institution for just as long if not longer).
If you're in a place where attempting to legally apply for or purchase a gun carries no other consequence other than being denied - GO FOR IT! If you have to see a Psychiatrist - you can always lie to them. "Yes doctor, I am a healthy average person, my home was broken into last month and even though I would never want to use it, having a shotgun would help me feel more secure."
A shotgun to the head is the Gold Standard of CTB methods. Even if it takes months, it's worth the wait. Is there a deadline to your CTB? As in you're going to be homeless, incarcerated, incapacitated or some other set of circumstances that would make it a lot harder to CTB if you don't do it right away?
If not - I can't stress enough how much a shotgun is worth the wait.
Yes you are right thank you, I have lost them some months ago in an accident so I now what I want but I cannot access a gun so started thinking alternatives like an but rush I go to therapy go out etc but stillWhat happened? When did it happen?
It sounds to me as though you are rushing this. Rushing into ctb is almost never a good idea. I think you should slow down. (The option to ctb isn't going to go away if you wait for a while.)
Sorry to ask but what happened and you failed?
My advice would be to wait until at last a year has passed since you lost your family. You are dealing with a bereavement, and the pain of that always decreases over time. It may never go away completely, but it should reduce to a level that allows you to get on with you life.Sorry to ask but what happened and you failed?
No I am just afraid to lie and think they will see that I am taking medication from depression
No I am just afraid to lie and think they will see that I am taking medication from depression
Yes you are right thank you, I have lost them some months ago in an accident so I now what I want but I cannot access a gun so started thinking alternatives like an but rush I go to therapy go out etc but still
Thanks so much for you words I know, I do therapy and I take my meds but I don't want to continue without them it's the pain I cannot handle, if I had a gun I would have done it already... everyone says it will be ok but I won'tMy advice would be to wait until at last a year has passed since you lost your family. You are dealing with a bereavement, and the pain of that always decreases over time. It may never go away completely, but it should reduce to a level that allows you to get on with you life.
Get some therapy if you can. If you can get the right therapist it will help.
Also, talk to other people who have lost people close to them. They will understand what you are going through, and will be able to offer you good advice.
I don't think ctb is the right way forward for you. It certainly isn't the right way forward for you yet.
You're not the first person to lose your family and you won't be the last. What you need to do now is concentrate on getting though the next few months. Things will improve eventually. (I never say that unless I know it's true.)Thanks so much for you words I know, I do therapy and I take my meds but I don't want to continue without them it's the pain I cannot handle, if I had a gun I would have done it already... everyone says it will be ok but I won't