Help Nitrogen Exit Bag Germany

[A3re733]

Does anyone know where I can buy a pure nitrogen gas tank in Germany? I was thinking online is the beat choice since it doesn't rise suspicion. Anyone tried it before? You don't neee any special license or anything right?

I also need a regulator I think so that the gas flows at that proper 15/20L per minute into the exit bag.

Thanks for the help. I only need it to pass out since this is not my main method cause I plan on combining it with hanging. So preferrably, it shouldn't be insanely expensive like the one at max dog brewery.

(Please reply here or pm me if you are experienced with the exit bag method)

Also, leave a reply if you've passed out from inert gases before and what it was like, that would help a lot.

Alternatively, if you can point me to a source where I can learn this myself then link that please.

 

[Joarga]

Hi.

I am from Spain.

I bought online in a 7 l cylinder for 119 euros from a company that sold online.

I had no problem nor had to give explanations.

As for the reducer, I bought it in Amazon for about 50 euros


My fear is that the cylinder is small and does not have 40 min of gas.
Greetings

 

[sleepy dog]

Hi.

I am from Spain.

I bought online in a 7 l cylinder for 119 euros from a company that sold online.

I had no problem nor had to give explanations.

As for the reducer, I bought it in Amazon for about 50 euros


My fear is that the cylinder is small and does not have 40 min of gas.
Greetings

You should not need 40 minutes of gas.

 

[A3re733]

Hi.

I am from Spain.

I bought online in a 7 l cylinder for 119 euros from a company that sold online.

I had no problem nor had to give explanations.

As for the reducer, I bought it in Amazon for about 50 euros


My fear is that the cylinder is small and does not have 40 min of gas.
Greetings

Very helpful answer, thanks

So, it's just like ordering anythiny else online?
You just buy it and it's delivered?

Have you tried it? Has anyone here ever passed out from nitrogen?

 

[Joarga]

No, I haven't tried it yet.

 

[sleepy dog]

What is that mask called?

 

[Joarga]

Mask dräger (firefighter)

 

[Joarga]

Hi.
I made the connections without any manual. I bought the nuts for the connection at the hardware store, but without explaining what they were for.
Mask buy in ebay

 

[frees]

My fear is that the cylinder is small and does not have 40 min of gas.

You don't need that much time. In an atmosphere of very little remaining oxygen content death is quick.

Regarding the common cylinder sizes in Europe:
A 2 liter cylinder @ 200 bar is good for about 25 minutes of gas flow @ 15 liters per minute.
A 5 liter cylinder @ 200 bar is good for about 65 minutes of gas flow @ 15 liters per minute.

2 liter cylinder would be enough. However, for peace of mind and some room for errors i would recommend a 5 liter tank. Price difference is small, and 5 liter cylinders are still a manageable size
Don't bother with larger sizes, overkill, and cannot be delivered via regular parcel service.

 

[BaronVon]

Hi.

I am from Spain.

I bought online in a 7 l cylinder for 119 euros from a company that sold online.

I had no problem nor had to give explanations.

As for the reducer, I bought it in Amazon for about 50 euros


My fear is that the cylinder is small and does not have 40 min of gas.
Greetings

(PDF) Suicidal Nitrogen Inhalation by use of Scuba Full-Face Diving Mask

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going by the attached example the tank size was the same as you have purchased

 

[Joarga]

Thanks for the info.
I am relieved to know that I will have enough.

 

[frees]

Alternatively, if you can point me to a source where I can learn this myself then link that please.

Read the relevant chapters in the "Peaceful Pill Handbook" March 2019 and "Five Last Acts" 2015.

 

[Joarga]

Thanks BaronVon. I saw the news a long time ago and that is why I will use the same medium.

 

[frees]

I am relieved to know that I will have enough.

If you are using a mask with "scuba" regulator you dont have constant flow, only on demand. So you need less gas. A 2 liter cylinder @ 200 bar would be more than enough

I plan on combining it with hanging.

Oh, just reading this. Dont do this. Really. Dont. Hanging and inert gases are methods that are especially bad to combine with anything, apart from maybe with a poison.
And a well planned good method is better than any combination.

 

[A3re733]

If you are using a mask with "scuba" regulator you dont have constant flow, only on demand. So you need less gas. A 2 liter cylinder @ 200 bar would be more than enough

Oh, just reading this. Dont do this. Really. Dont. Hanging and inert gases are methods that are especially bad to combine with anything, apart from maybe with a poison.
And a well planned good method is better than any combination.

Why not?
Hanging is 100% lethal. No worry there.
But the survival instinct and discomfort is high.

So, use the nitrogen to peacefuly pass out with a noose around the neck and that's it. Since exit bags are not 100%.

I'm just combining the methods so that I get rid of their negatives.

Again, why do you say "Don't do this"?

It's literally normal suspension hanging but instead of suffering for 15-20 seconds before you pass out you just breathe in nitrogen and are gone before you know it, your body drops and hangs to death. I don't see how adding nitrogen somehow makes the method any less lethal.

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Also, anyone here ever passed out from nitrogen or tried to test it out somehow?

Do you pass out gradually like going to sleep or is it just one second awake and the next not awake.

Also, how long does it take to pass out? I think it should be seconds but apparently it can take a min or two????

 

[frees]

Why not?

You are lessening your chances of success considerably and you are inviting unforeseen problems. Due to practical reasons you will not be able to execute both methods as perfect as otherwise possible. The timing might work differently than you expect, maybe you will become lightheaded and lose your footing and then panic and abort when the noose pulls tight. For asphyxia you have and need say 30 seconds where one drifts deeper and deeper in unconsciousness, a constricting noose will interrupt violently, one might wake up and fight for survival. The rope might dislodge the tube or bag. Both methods are quite different in their implementation, leading to practical difficulties.
The reason the exit bag works not 100% when executed technically sound is survival instinct kicking in in the last minute, a rope will not help here.
Dont overcomplicate proven methods. You can always try again in case of failure.
I would suggest to research and prepare one or two methods, doing trials. Then you can decide how to proceed.

 

[A3re733]

You are lessening your chances of success considerably and you are inviting unforeseen problems. Due to practical reasons you will not be able to execute both methods as perfect as otherwise possible. The timing might work differently than you expect, maybe you will become lightheaded and lose your footing and then panic and abort when the noose pulls tight. For asphyxia you have and need say 30 seconds where one drifts deeper and deeper in unconsciousness, a constricting noose will interrupt violently, one might wake up and fight for survival. The rope might dislodge the tube or bag. Both methods are quite different in their implementation, leading to practical difficulties.
The reason the exit bag works not 100% when executed technically sound is survival instinct kicking in in the last minute, a rope will not help here.
I would suggest to research and prepare one or two methods, doing trials. Then you can decide how to proceed.

Your 1st point doesn't apply. I have a way to do both methods at once properly.

2nd point is possible. I imagined the passing out from nitrogen to be instantaneous(from reading about inert gas death accidents) and not gradual. If it is gradual then it is possible that I get lightheaded enough to lose footing, which from experience also means a loss of awareness of bodily sensation and vision.

So if I suddenly get dizzy and lose footing, then the noose tightens, I might not even feel the physical discomfort/pain that usually comes with hanging.

And if it really just goes wrong. Then, I can move on, at least I tried.

I can maybe use drugs to severely desensitize myself and just practice a lot until I can easily pass out with regular hanging by itself.


But really, I think it is a very good idea to use the nitrogen to pass out with the noose around the neck. Definetely worth trying.

Any other thoughts on this? Do you agree? I am open to any opinions and advice

(Also, just to clarify, the method is suspension hanging. The nitrogen gas is only a way to bypass the survival instinct and pain avoidance instinct and pass out.)

If I actually pass out from the gas. My unconcious body falls and the rope tightens around my neck while the plastic bag, tubing and gas tank fly all over the place. Then, that would be a success and exactly what I'm aiming for.

 

[frees]

Both methods (when executed technically sound, there are dozens of reports here where the rope was chosen too weak and broke. And hanging is the simpler method by a magnitude here) are very deadly. What is difficult is overcoming survival instinct and in case of hanging pain. A combination of methods does not help with SI.
Research both methods (PPH and Five Last Acts etc), get the stuff and do trials. Then you get a better feel for the methods, difficulties (including SI) and possible problems.

For the above reasons i would try to do one method as perfect as possible instead a combo. With hanging overcoming SI and pain is much more difficult, so i would choose inert gas alone.

 

[A3re733]

Both methods (when executed technically sound, there are dozens of reports here where the rope was chosen too weak and broke. And hanging is the simpler method by a magnitude here) are very deadly. What is difficult is overcoming survival instinct and in case of hanging pain. A combination of methods does not help with SI.
Research both methods (PPH and Five Last Acts etc), get the stuff and do trials. Then you get a better feel for the methods, difficulties (including SI) and possible problems.

For the above reasons i would try to do one method as perfect as possible instead a combo. With hanging overcoming SI and pain is much more difficult, so i would choose inert gas alone.

If the rope they used for hanging broke, they did the method incorrectly by not making sure the rope/support is strong enough.

Anyways, like you said, hanging is 100%lethal if done correctly, but not pleasant. On the other hand, inert gas asphyxiation is very peaceful and pleasant, but it is possible for the bag to be ripped off unconsciously, for the body to shake and fall into a bad position where air comes in. Basically, a lot harder to do and if you don't do it perfectly you risk brain damage.

A guy on youtube has a story like that. Not cool.

Anyway, I stand by my point. Thanks for your contribution though. It helped me think more in depth about my method and motivates me to do some serious planning.

I don't know why it's so difficult for you to get that using inert gas to pass out instead of enduring the pain of being hung by the neck for 15 seconds is a good idea.

 

[frees]

n the other hand, inert gas asphyxiation is very peaceful and pleasant, but it is possible for the bag to be ripped off unconsciously, for the body to shake and fall into a bad position where air comes in. Basically, a lot harder to do and if you don't do it perfectly you risk brain damage.

Groups like Exit International, Dignitas, Exit US and Exit UK have worked on this method for two decades and have witnessed hundreds of deliveries and received reports of much more. There is no occurrence of "ripping of the bag while half-conscious". This is hearsay on the internet, amplified by repetition of this claim. There are some doubtful self-reports on dubious sites. One peacefully drifts into a deep coma and death occurs very quickly. This is confirmed empirically and by basic science. Ripping of the bag shortly before loosing consciousness is called SI and is no failure of the method.
Same is true for dislodging the hood due to shifting body position. No reports, and can be alleviated by reclined or half-lying position. There is no violent movement or shaking after loosing consciousness.

However, lots of research and following the instructions carefully is key for this method. Some technical prowess and doing trials is helpful.

 

[A3re733]

Does anyone know what it's like to pass out from inert gases like nitrogen?

I've heard 2 things.

1. You are fine, breathing normally, then before you know it instantly unconscious. (the ones who talk about this can only do so after they wake up)

2. You gradually get dizzy or tired or sleepier and sleepier until you're unconscious. (could be over the span of a few seconds, or I've also read 1-2 minutes?)

 

[frees]

I think both is possible. But not taking 1-2 minutes, it is much shorter. This is depending on how much oxygen is still left in the hood (when following the instructions, in particular the older ones, there are some non trivial amounts of oxygen left in the hood), physiological differences and the breathing technique.
But in all cases its more or less peaceful and not distressing.

 

[A3re733]

I think both is possible. But not taking 1-2 minutes, it is much shorter. This is depending on how much oxygen is still left in the hood (when following the instructions, in particular the older ones, there are some non trivial amounts of oxygen left in the hood), physiological differences and the breathing technique.
But in all cases its more or less peaceful and not distressing.

What's the proper breathing technique and proper way to fill up the hood so that there isn't oxygen inside?

 

[isom03]

Hi.

I am from Spain.

I bought online in a 7 l cylinder for 119 euros from a company that sold online.

I had no problem nor had to give explanations.

As for the reducer, I bought it in Amazon for about 50 euros


My fear is that the cylinder is small and does not have 40 min of gas.
Greetings

Hi, i'm from Spain too, new in this website.
I've been searching for a place to by the same thing, but I can't find it... any help about it?
thanks!

 

[Joarga]

[QUOTE = "isom03, publicación: 867997, miembro: 21761"]
Hola, yo también soy de España, nuevo en este sitio web.
He estado buscando un lugar para hacer lo mismo, pero no puedo encontrarlo ... ¿alguna ayuda al respecto?
¡Gracias!
[/CITAR]
Hola.
Haciendo una busqueda en google, puedes encontrar sitios como syc-cylinders, entre otros.
Aquí compré yo el cilindro de N y el reductor.
Un saludo

 

[endergames]

@Greenberg has a blog on the Exit Bag with as much details as anyone would need and it's highly readable too. Some forum members consider his setup to be the "gold" standard for all Exit Bags. I even replicated the setup from his blog! The weblink is nitrogenexit.blogspot.com. Feel free to PM or chat if you've any questions.

 

[nitroautnz]

What a perfect post, i start the process for a nitrogen exit bag, thanks peoples for all those useful information!