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https://kstp.com/news/eden-prairie-man-pleads-guilty-assisting-wife-suicide/5239686/

Charge Description:
That on or about August 15, 2018, Thomas James Houck, intentionally advised,
encouraged, or assisted another, a known adult female, in taking Victim 1's own life.

STATEMENT OF PROBABLE CAUSE
Your Complainant, Mark Gustad, is a Detective with the Eden Prairie Police Department and, in that
capacity, has investigated the facts and circumstances of this case and believes the following establishes
PROBABLE CAUSE:
On or about August 16, 2018, at approximately 2:20 a.m., officers of the Eden Prairie Police Department
responded to a known address, located in the City of Eden Prairie, Hennepin County, Minnesota, in
response to an emergency phone call made by THOMAS JAMES HOUCK, DOB 4/16/1957, the
Defendant herein.
In that call, the Defendant told the emergency dispatcher that he woke in the middle of
the night to find his wife, a known adult female, Victim 1 herein, had "euthanized herself."
The Defendant
went on to state that his wife had used nitrogen, wasn't breathing and was laying in her bed with a plastic
bag over her head.
Upon arrival, officers observed Victim 1 with a clear plastic bag over her head with a tube, which was
connected to a tank of nitrogen, inserted into the bag.
Victim 1 was deceased.
Near Victim 1 was what
appeared to be a handwritten note, which specified she could not endure any more pain and needed a way
out of the pain.
The medical examiner responded to the scene and a final autopsy report is pending.
Initially, the Defendant reported to law enforcement that he woke up in the middle of the night to go to the
restroom and found Victim 1 had killed herself.
The Defendant reported Victim 1 had been in a lot of pain
from an unknown cause and no medication was helping.
The Defendant did admit to previously assisting Victim 1 in searching for suicide methods and eventually,
on August 15, 2018, accompanied her to the store to purchase the nitrogen and the needed regulator. The
Defendant admitted to disposing of the receipts for the purchases of the nitrogen and regulator, but denied
that he otherwise assisted her in the suicide.
Complainant froze the scene and obtained a search warrant.
Upon returning to the residence, the
Defendant reported he had not been completely forthcoming or truthful.
In a post-Miranda statement, the
Defendant then admitted to helping Victim 1 make the hood out of the plastic bag, which they made based
off a document they had downloaded from the internet.
The Defendant further stated that he was present
when Victim 1 put the bag over her head and that he had, in fact, turned on the nitrogen gas. The Defendant
also confessed that he held the bag closed after Victim 1 put it over her head and continued to hold the bag
as he turned on the nitrogen gas and the tank emptied.
The Defendant further confessed he checked
Victim 1's pulse after the nitrogen tank was empty and felt Victim 1 had no pulse.
The Defendant reported he knew what he did was wrong and illegal so he wore gloves during the incident
and when it was over, drove to a nearby store and disposed of the gloves and some other items that he did
not specify.
The Defendant stated he tried to rest, but couldn't and eventually called 911 several hours later.
Law enforcement was able to obtain video of the Defendant and Victim 1 buying the nitrogen tank and also
video of the Defendant disposing of the evidence at the nearby store.
Police officers were also able to
recover a copy of the receipt for the regulator and speak to a sales associate who remembered the
Defendant's purchase.
The Defendant is presently in custody.
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I wonder if the Eden Prairie case would have played out differently if the husband had only assisted in procuring the supplies.
 
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JustAboutDone

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Goodness me. Sometimes it's quite jolting to read things in black and white.
Thank you for the information @crova - I don't know how you and @Johnnythefox find these things, I wouldn't know what to search for x
 
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Goodness me. Sometimes it's quite jolting to read things in black and white.
Thank you for the information @crova - I don't know how you and @Johnnythefox find these things, I wouldn't know what to search for x

She was one of us, I liked her.
There was goodbye thread. She left details to other member.
 
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HYDERABAD: A 38-year-old woman allegedly committed suicide by inhaling nitrogen after leading her daughter to death by administering the same gas. And bizarrely, the woman left a note requesting police not reveal any details to the media.

According to police, Arthi and her seven-year-old daughter Tashi were found dead at their residence in Mettuguda under Chilkalguda police limits on Friday.

WTF
 
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It's ridiculous that they are charging him with assisted suicide, but it underscores how important it is for all of us to cover all of our bases. Furthermore, NEVER talk to the cops, especially if you: are lying, are telling the truth, have committed a potential crime, have not committed a potential crime, and especially if you don't have a lawyer by your side. I'm sure her husband is going through a wide range of emotions.
 
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Smilla

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It's ridiculous that they are charging him with assisted suicide, but it underscores how important it is for all of us to cover all of our bases. Furthermore, NEVER talk to the cops, especially if you: are lying, are telling the truth, have committed a potential crime, have not committed a potential crime, and especially if you don't have a lawyer by your side. I'm sure her husband is going through a wide range of emotions.

Excellent advice.

Should be in the resources section.
 
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http://nwww.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20160905000715
Three men and one woman were found dead in Ansan city, Gyeonggi Province on Monday in an apparent group suicide by nitrogen gas inhalation.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2168582/elderly-couple-planned-pact/
TWO pensioners put up a sign warning of dangerous gas before they killed themselves with 'exit bags' filled with nitrogen in a meticulously planned suicide pact, an inquest heard.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...suicide-pact-woman-brain-cancer-sufferer.html
Mother, 78, and two daughters at centre of tragic suicide pact purchased nitrogen gas canisters
from euthanasia campaigner 'Dr Death' [Philip Nitschke] in days before they were found dead

Pro-euthanasia expert Philip Nitschke aided three women in their suicide pact
Controversial former physician says he provided them with gas cannisters
Woman involved in Tuesday's suspected suicide pact suffered from brain cancer
Wynette Cummins, her sister Heather and elderly mum Margaret, all found dead
The three women were discovered inside unit on the Gold Coast's Ephraim Island
Ephraim Island is an exclusive gated community with multi-million dollar homes
Community - so accustomed to comfort, serenity and prosperity - left shattered
The 'quiet, tight-knit' family are originally from Young, in west New South Wales

Nitschke said:
'The planning and research by the women that took place over a number of months indicated that this was a rational decision.
'Many people choose to use nitrogen as a way of peacefully ending their lives as it is reliable and quick and totally legal.
'There is no need to import restricted drugs, and many find the legality of the process appealing.'
 
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https://www.islandecho.co.uk/university-dean-committed-suicide-bembridge-caravan-using-argon-gas/
Father of 3 Christopher Robin James Southgate committed suicide by placing a plastic bag over his head and inhaling Argon gas whilst staying in a caravan in Bembridge last year, an inquest has today (Wednesday) heard.

Today's inquest heard how 52-year-old Christopher Southgate, a university lecturer,
was discovered with a plastic bag over his head and tubing leading to an Argon gas cylinder.
He was tied to a chair and his hands had been cable tied to the belt loops on his trousers.
A post mortem concluded that Southgate, who held a doctorate, died as a result of asphyxia
due to plastic bag suffocation and inhalation of Argon gas.
 
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@crova huge thanks again for finding these things x I think it's important to see how the media portray these stories
 
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@crova huge thanks again for finding these things x I think it's important to see how the media portray these stories

Hi J.A.D. and thanks.recently I realised its quite hard and time consuming searching for information about using inert gases.
I thought it would be a good idea gathering my findings in one place easy to browse.

I will not lie - I need it for myself too. The only reason Im here is best possible research and then flawless, peaceful, painless death for myself
I'm scared sh***es of any risk of failure with my method.

I'm very sorry if anyone finds this thread and my motivations offensive.
 
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@crova - it makes it a very good resource from several perspectives and thank you for the hard work.
 
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I cannot imagine for a moment anyone would condone that. The OP was just pointing out that she was a poster here on the forum.
 
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I cannot imagine for a moment anyone would condone that. The OP was just pointing out that she was a poster here on the forum.
That's kind of scary...
 
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That's kind of scary...

There are very ill people out there. I assume this lady thought her daughter would be better off dead than without her? That's messed up. If it truly needs to be said, we do not condone killing your children, or anyone else for that matter.
 
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Wtf. A mother murdered her 7 year old daughter. That is not ok.

I meant to link to the article about the man and his wife which I clearly stated in my post.
 
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There are very ill people out there. I assume this lady thought her daughter would be better off dead than without her? That's messed up. If it truly needs to be said, we do not condone killing your children, or anyone else for that matter.

I don't think anyone here is condoning the murder of another, nor do I believe she was a member of this forum as it would have been glaringly apparent if she intended to kill her child. Please don't misconstrue or insert intent into posts.
 
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You say she was one of us... She killed her 7 yr old daughter. Do you guys really condone that???? Wtf . I really hope I'm mistaken bc what the actual fuck

No we don't condone it. At all. My post inaccurately referenced that article, not the other one about a man and his wife.
 
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It worked. Damn, green with envy of that.
 
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Furthermore, NEVER talk to the cops, especially if you: are lying, are telling the truth, have committed a potential crime, have not committed a potential crime

Love it!!
 
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I'm scared sh***es of any risk of failure with my method.

Exactly the reason I'm still alive, too. I second what others have said already: thank you for collecting and sharing these articles.
 
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https://www.nj.com/opinion/index.ssf/2018/10/i_saw_my_sisters_terrible_decline_close_up_we_shou.html

"This has been a brutal decision, as I want more than anything to live this beautiful life I have been given," she wrote. "But the fact is my body will not allow me to do that. … It no longer matters how strong my spirit is. My body will not cooperate."
She didn't want to shoot herself, or leap from a building, or crash her car, mostly because she knew a violent end would deepen the trauma for the rest of us. So, we pored through books that describe different tactics and spoke with volunteers at organizations that have sprung up to help, like the Final Exit Network.
The nitrogen bag, we learned, was reliable and painless. The gas puts a person to sleep fast, so there is no great struggle for air. The nitrogen tank, regulator and tubing could be ordered online from a company in Australia that sells equipment for home-brewed beer, the books said.
A turkey basting bag was the right size and could be held snug with an elastic headband taped to the rim.
It was painless, the books promised. It was quick. It was certain. It would have to do.
[...]
When I found Lizzy, I yanked off the bag and checked her neck for a pulse before calling the police. They arrived and were kind and understanding. Soon, they were lifting her body onto a stretcher, heading to the morgue.
Some will hear this story and believe that she could have found a cure if she kept searching. Some will say she must have been depressed, or that her mystery symptoms were psychosomatic. Some will say her nephew was right, and she was crying out for help.
It convinced me that our attitude toward death is medieval, and causes great misery.



https://www.idahostatesman.com/latest-news/article211918384.html
The former water manager, identified Friday by the Twin Falls Times-News as Tom Young, 62, was found dead at his home with a canister of unknown gas, later identified as nitrogen gas. He was fired earlier this month after an argument at City Hall.

Eight people, including seven first responders, were sickened by the gas inside Young's house, and a hazardous materials investigation was started.


https://www.thehansindia.com/posts/...rogen-gas-to-end-life-over-app-failure/223144

Hyderabad: A 33-year-old software engineer took the drastic step of ending his life by inhaling nitrogen gas at his house in S.R. Nagar area of Hyderabad yesterday, after a social networking application that he developed failed to take off.

In the suicide note, the techie said he decided to inhale nitrogen gas to end his life without any pain.
 
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Why the hell did he admit to helping her? I hope his life is not ruined.
 
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I don't think anyone here is condoning the murder of another, nor do I believe she was a member of this forum as it would have been glaringly apparent if she intended to kill her child. Please don't misconstrue or insert intent into posts.

she was member of this forum
 
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Have any of you got nitrogen tanks in Europe? Would you be kind enough to comment on how you placed the order? Thank you
 
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