night night or gun

[Jlt]

hey guys-I need to ctb soon at least within the next 3 days. I had a humiliating fail at partial last May. I couldn't pass out for some reason.
Now I have an opportunity many of you would die for (pun intended)

The problem is that I've never shot a gun and storage would be a problem.

Should I go with the gun or should I just try partial or something like night night

 

[GeorgeEastman]

Depends on the caliber of bullet. I'd want at least a .357. Preferably a .44. I want my brains scooped up in a bucket somewhere.

 

[ChickenAndPotatoes]

If I were you I'd try partial again but overlap it with another method such as SN and/or CO. That's what I'm doing. Going to buy a tall tent (I'm 5'3") going to cut a teeny tiny hole in the top of the tent. Pull the rope through the hole and make a noose. Get BBQ charcoal grill going outside until its smoldering and red hot, bring it inside and set it on two layers of bricks. Going to drink alcohol to loosen up. Take a bunch of SN in a glass of water, then put noose over head and partially hang. I'm also considering just doing the SN and full suspension hanging. Dunno, I'm not dead set on my method yet...may be a better one out there.

 

[TiredHorse]

The more I read, the more convinced I am that partial is pretty hit-or-miss.

What type of gun and what caliber?

Larger caliber is generally better, but that doesn't mean a smaller caliber won't work if you go about it carefully. The smallest I would use would be a .32, and I'd make damn sure I had good hollowpoints (Federal makes the best, in my opinion), and aiming properly becomes much more important, but I can promise you that it could work (a friend used that cailber for his ctb). If you're talking about a .22, you'll be better off trying again with partial.

More details would be important at this point.

 

[TAW122]

I'm personally going with the gun myself since it has a much higher chance to succeed, but only if you aim at the right area. You want to be hitting the brainstem, which should result in just about instant death with near zero chance of survival. If you use a shotgun with 00 buckshot, you still have to aim, but have a much, much higher chance of success. Whatever you do, NEVER aim at the chin (be it a shotgun or any gun) as you'll at best only blow off your frontal lobe and face, leaving you alive and in excruciating amounts of pain and most likely very disabled.

 

[worldexploder]

Personally id pick the firearm easily! But I'd make sure it's a brand new 12 gauge with 00buckshot or PDX1 defender ammo. This is a method you can't afford to fuck up. I figured since hanging didn't work for me the NNM prob wouldn't ether. But that's just my opinion buddy. At the end of the day you gotta use your own judgment.

 

[bigj75]

If you seriously gotta do it in the next 3 days then Night night no question.

You gotta wait a few days for a background check on a gun. Pump some cash for it. Hide it until you find a place to blow your head off. The mess you leave behind will be gruesome.

Night Night should be just as effective but is cheaper and doesn't leave a mess behind. Only thing is you need seclusion and some time for this to work. Only takes a trip to Walmart to get the supplies. Do your research and you should be good to go.


The thing is night night is not the same as partial (i don't think it is). Nobody can survive being choked out for too long so i don't know how some of yall aren't successful.

 

[worldexploder]

I'm personally going with the gun myself since it has a much higher chance to succeed, but only if you aim at the right area. You want to be hitting the brainstem, which should result in just about instant death with near zero chance of survival. If you use a shotgun with 00 buckshot, you still have to aim, but have a much, much higher chance of success. Whatever you do, NEVER aim at the chin (be it a shotgun or any gun) as you'll at best only blow off your frontal lobe and face, leaving you alive and in excruciating amounts of pain and most likely very disabled.

Great advice! Don't know why so many people tend to aim at their chin! It never made sense to me. Nobody wants to live with a shotgun lobotomy. The goal is to get the bullet to reach the center of the brain at the closest range possible. That's why it's so important to aim at an angle in the roof of your mouth.

 

[TiredHorse]

That's why it's so important to aim at an angle in the roof of your mouth.

In general, your theory is the same as mine.

In practice, I've heard it recommended to put the muzzle directly behind your ear, pointed level, straight side-to-side. It's easier than trying to judge the correct angle with the gun in your mouth, and it could be mentally easier to have the gun less... intrusive.

 

[worldexploder]

In general, your theory is the same as mine.

In practice, I've heard it recommended to put the muzzle directly behind your ear, pointed level, straight side-to-side. It's easier than trying to judge the correct angle with the gun in your mouth, and it could be mentally easier to have the gun less... intrusive.

In my opinion, it seems like a shotgun would be harder to hold/aim behind your ear as opposed to the roof of your mouth. There seems to be a bigger chance that the gun might kick and blow the top of your skull off instead of reaching the important parts of the brain. That's just my opinion and I'm not disagreeing with you.

If I could go by firearm, I would personally hold the shotgun firmly with the stock on the ground with the trigger facing opposite of me. I'd pull the trigger once I leaned over and had it in my mouth at a 45 degree angle. The roof of your mouth is softer than the skull and closet to the center of the brain.

Or you could use the same method in a standing position with the butt of the gun propped up between a couch.

 

[TiredHorse]

In my opinion, it seems like a shotgun would be harder to hold/aim behind your ear as opposed to the roof of your mouth. There seems to be a bigger chance that the gun might kick and blow the top of your skull off instead of reaching the important parts of the brain. That's just my opinion and I'm not disagreeing with you.

If I could go by firearm, I would personally hold the shotgun firmly with the stock on the ground with the trigger facing opposite of me. I'd pull the trigger once I leaned over and had it in my mouth at a 45 degree angle. The roof of your mouth is softer than the skull and closet to the center of the brain.

With a long gun, you may be right. I tend to think of pistols first: far easier to handle than a shotgun, and just as effective when aimed properly.

But we are entirely agreed on the critical elements of ctb with a shotgun (or any gun): don't just point it up under your chin!

 

[worldexploder]

With a long gun, you may be right. I tend to think of pistols first: far easier to handle than a shotgun, and just as effective when aimed properly.

But we are entirely agreed on the critical elements of ctb with a shotgun (or any gun): don't just point it up under your chin!

Absolutly! With a pistol (of high caliber) you could aim at the brainstem right under that soft spot were your neck ends and your skull beings. Ever seen the Budd Dwyer suicide video? He aimed at the mouth. Instakill! He was gone before his body hit the floor.

Yes please NEVER AIM UNDER THE CHIN FOLKS! We can't stress that enough!

 

[fluxis]

Depends on the caliber of bullet. I'd want at least a .357. Preferably a .44. I want my brains scooped up in a bucket somewhere.

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