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TAW122

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The author of the article wrote it as if he was trying to demonize assisted suicide advocates. I don't like the way he portrayed it as some evil thing. If anything, legalization (or even initiatives and steps) of assisted suicide is a right step in a compassionate society.
 
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The author of the article wrote it as if he was trying to demonize assisted suicide advocates. I don't like the way he portrayed it as some evil thing. If anything, legalization (or even initiatives and steps) of assisted suicide is a right step in a compassionate society.
The first article is from a fundamentalist religious "Intelligent Design" (creationist) website. They rant against everything not in agreement with their close-minded theology.
 
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Buddyluv19

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No waiting time for dispensing of method.
Dead in 48 Hours
There is no waiting period between request and issuance of the prescription, only a 48-hour delay in dispensing a written prescription:

https://evolutionnews.org/2019/01/new-mexicos-radical-assisted-suicide-legislation/

Well, it looks like the US government and likely some 'savvy politicians' have stumbled upon a way to save money on healthcare and social services. I wonder what it 'really' takes to qualify?
 
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Buddyluv19

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Wow. Aside from the Fundamentalcase histrionics, that's pretty incredible. I hope it goes through.

@TiredHorse, this looks optimistic at first glance; but I'd be willing to bet (if I were the bettin' Type) that the only souls eligible will be souls with no money to give the government in the future. Sorry if this seems pessimistic - I guess I've been living in the US too long.
 
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TiredHorse

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@TiredHorse, this looks optimistic at first glance; but I'd be willing to bet (if I were the bettin' Type) that the only souls eligible will be souls with no money to give the government in the future. Sorry if this seems pessimistic - I guess I've been living in the US too long.
No, I know. I'm in the US too. But there has recently been some good press here in WA, and in OR, about how the Death With Dignity options here have yet to be abused as the skeptics all howled that they must surely be. Not one case of compelled suicide. So maybe NM will be able to allow that most welcome camel's nose into the tent.

Unreasonable optimism, I know, but stranger things have happened.
 
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TAW122

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No, I know. I'm in the US too. But there has recently been some good press here in WA, and in OR, about how the Death With Dignity options here have yet to be abused as the skeptics all howled that they must surely be. Not one case of compelled suicide. So maybe NM will be able to allow that most welcome camel's nose into the tent.

Unreasonable optimism, I know, but stranger things have happened.
Do you think that assisted suicide will be legal at least on the federal level maybe in the late 21st century? Though I know by that time, probably decades or half a century later... I'd either be very, very old (if I haven't ctb'ed till then) or die of other causes (including natural causes), since there is so much that can happen in that span of time. Thus, even if it was legal let's say 2069 or something, then it would be pointless for those who already passed on, but could be of use to others that are still around and suffering terminal illness.
 
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TiredHorse

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Do you think that assisted suicide will be legal at least on the federal level maybe in the late 21st century?
No way. The Bible Belt states would block it on a Federal level. The states who have legal assisted suicide now are mostly blue states, and I have no idea how Montana ended up so enlightened. NM has always been a political wild card, so that bill in the OP could go either way. My bet would be that any progress will have to go state by state.
 
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Buddyluv19

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No way. The Bible Belt states would block it on a Federal level. The states who have legal assisted suicide now are mostly blue states, and I have no idea how Montana ended up so enlightened. NM has always been a political wild card, so that bill in the OP could go either way. My bet would be that any progress will have to go state by state.

I'd have to agree with @TiredHorse about the federal govt vs states here in the US.

Unfortunately, for all of the progress made in the last 30 years (cell phones, internet browsing, electric cars, etc) there has been very little progress with assisted dying in the US*. The first edition of Final Exit came out approximately 30 years ago in the US - 1991. And really, there has been 'relatively' little progress in the 'right to die' movement. Yes, a few states here in the US are coming around, but it still looks to be an 'uphill battle'. That's not to say there won't be vast changes in the next 30-40 years; however, it seems that 'assisted dying' is not a very popular subject.

*I have learned much about the issue as it applies in other countries on this site; however, I can only speak from my limited experience here in the US.
 
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No, I know. I'm in the US too. But there has recently been some good press here in WA, and in OR, about how the Death With Dignity options here have yet to be abused as the skeptics all howled that they must surely be. Not one case of compelled suicide. So maybe NM will be able to allow that most welcome camel's nose into the tent.

Unreasonable optimism, I know, but stranger things have happened.

That's good to know. I'm familiar with OR - but not so much WA. I hope the situation changes to allow individuals to make decisions about their own lives, in accordance with their own situations in all states (and countries for that matter).
 
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peachesNpoison

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I'm skeptical that this will all stick and spread to other states, but I can hope. thanks for the article, Fox
 
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I don't support any assisted dying law if it excludes anyone—this isn't actual progress as it may seem at first glance. Is it "better than nothing"? I don't know but I suspect not.

These laws are counterproductive in theory because of their "terminal" requirement which is at best arbitrary and at worst stigmatizing, both for terminal patients and those suffering from psychic or physical pain only.

Edit: I am trying to find the article which articulately argues these points. Will try to find tomorrow.

Appreciate everyone's perspectives on the matter.
 
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