I've been lurking on the Google S forum for years. I've also read similar reports. But they're always dismissed by the community. It's as if people are so eager for a sure-fire way that any news that it didn't work for others must be labeled false. Ironically, all the back-and-forth bickering can frighten away many of us. I want the end to be slightly pleasurable. Life's been enough of a hell for me. I just want to feel something good going out. Hence my apprehension over the extremely bad taste of N & the need to take enough antiemetics to keep the vile liquid down.