Need advice on suicide methods in England

[Asdr5633]

Hi. I'm a male, 5'6", 119 pounds. A number of circumstances lead to my desire to die, most prominently multiple chronic health problems that I cannot stand any longer, but I shan't bore you with the unneccessary details.

I'm in England so unfortunately I don't have access to a gun. I'm currently considering hanging and train as suicide methods, but if anyone has any better suggestions then let me know.

Hanging sounds good because the necessary items are easy to come by. Some questions about hanging:
1) Can anyone recommend specific rope to buy that would be good for my weight? Amount of money necessary is not an issue.
2) I very rarely get any time alone at my home. Where else could I do it? Would a hotel room be good? Once again money is probably not an issue.
3) Which method of hanging would you recommend that isn't too logistically difficult?

Any other general thoughts/ideas/advice about hanging is welcome.

Train also sounds good because it seems fairly logistically easy. I know there is the ethical issue with possible trauma to the driver but honestly that is the least of my concerns. However it seems that failure is quite possible from the statistics I've seen. I don't really have any specific questions about train suicide but would appreciate any general thoughts/advice.

Thanks for reading.

 

[stellabelle]

Hi. I'm a male, 5'6", 119 pounds. A number of circumstances lead to my desire to die, most prominently multiple chronic health problems that I cannot stand any longer, but I shan't bore you with the unneccessary details.

I'm in England so unfortunately I don't have access to a gun. I'm currently considering hanging and train as suicide methods, but if anyone has any better suggestions then let me know.

Hanging sounds good because the necessary items are easy to come by. Some questions about hanging:
1) Can anyone recommend specific rope to buy that would be good for my weight? Amount of money necessary is not an issue.
2) I very rarely get any time alone at my home. Where else could I do it? Would a hotel room be good? Once again money is probably not an issue.
3) Which method of hanging would you recommend that isn't too logistically difficult?

Any other general thoughts/ideas/advice about hanging is welcome.

Train also sounds good because it seems fairly logistically easy. I know there is the ethical issue with possible trauma to the driver but honestly that is the least of my concerns. However it seems that failure is quite possible from the statistics I've seen. I don't really have any specific questions about train suicide but would appreciate any general thoughts/advice.

Thanks for reading.

This video is rather dry, but was shared in the megathread about hanging.



I think it appears to be rather easy/peaceful, but would require a proper setup.

I too have considered jumping in front of a train, but the possibility of surviving is too risky to appeal to me, and the agony involved is concerning.
Here is an article regarding the subject.

http://lostallhope.com/suicide-methods/jumping-under-train


6

Hit by train

96.2%

17.92

7.08

Lost all hope also lists these numbers for lethality, time, and agony.

http://lostallhope.com/suicide-methods/statistics-most-lethal-methods

Operators generally get paid time off. I knew a few. I asked what the worst part about suicides were, and they told me that it was the noise that bothered them the most.

 

[onewayroad]

Can you get to Beachy Head?

I'm in Australia but I've seen a lot of posts about it on here.

 

[Stillnotsure]

Hi. I'm a male, 5'6", 119 pounds. A number of circumstances lead to my desire to die, most prominently multiple chronic health problems that I cannot stand any longer, but I shan't bore you with the unneccessary details.

I'm in England so unfortunately I don't have access to a gun. I'm currently considering hanging and train as suicide methods, but if anyone has any better suggestions then let me know.

Hanging sounds good because the necessary items are easy to come by. Some questions about hanging:
1) Can anyone recommend specific rope to buy that would be good for my weight? Amount of money necessary is not an issue.
2) I very rarely get any time alone at my home. Where else could I do it? Would a hotel room be good? Once again money is probably not an issue.
3) Which method of hanging would you recommend that isn't too logistically difficult?

Any other general thoughts/ideas/advice about hanging is welcome.

Train also sounds good because it seems fairly logistically easy. I know there is the ethical issue with possible trauma to the driver but honestly that is the least of my concerns. However it seems that failure is quite possible from the statistics I've seen. I don't really have any specific questions about train suicide but would appreciate any general thoughts/advice.

Thanks for reading.

Hi and welcome. Make sure you search the mega threads about hanging, partial, and the night night method. The night night might be your best option as you can be in bed at night if need be. Hotel room would be a great option. You'll meet opposition on using a train here because many of us don't believe in involving an innocent third party to ctb.

 

[Jai]

Hi. I'm a male, 5'6", 119 pounds. A number of circumstances lead to my desire to die, most prominently multiple chronic health problems that I cannot stand any longer, but I shan't bore you with the unneccessary details.

I'm in England so unfortunately I don't have access to a gun. I'm currently considering hanging and train as suicide methods, but if anyone has any better suggestions then let me know.

Hanging sounds good because the necessary items are easy to come by. Some questions about hanging:
1) Can anyone recommend specific rope to buy that would be good for my weight? Amount of money necessary is not an issue.
2) I very rarely get any time alone at my home. Where else could I do it? Would a hotel room be good? Once again money is probably not an issue.
3) Which method of hanging would you recommend that isn't too logistically difficult?

Any other general thoughts/ideas/advice about hanging is welcome.

Train also sounds good because it seems fairly logistically easy. I know there is the ethical issue with possible trauma to the driver but honestly that is the least of my concerns. However it seems that failure is quite possible from the statistics I've seen. I don't really have any specific questions about train suicide but would appreciate any general thoughts/advice.

Thanks for reading.

Beachy head mate if you could travel there

 

[15dec]

https://www.ropelocker.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=13_20&products_id=4
I bought this rope. Going to use it for partial or the tourniquet method

 

[21Neberg]

Concerning the train method,

you said you live in the UK. I live in The Netherlands, and the train method might not be the way for us to go out. At least on this side of the pond, the trains have 'guards' in front of the wheel so you can't get your neck chopped off by the wheels. The trains in the UK might have this too, so watch out.
Furthermore, make sure you jump somewhere where A) the driver can't see you early enough to stop the train and B) the train is driving fast enough.

 

[Asdr5633]

Thanks for the responses everyone. I should be able to get to Beachy Head but it would be a fair journey and I know that people patrol the area so I'm not sure about it. The night night method seems like a good option so thanks for suggesting it. I will have to do quite a bit more research but fortunately there are many good resources here.

 

[tariq aqeel]

Can you get to Beachy Head?

I'm in Australia but I've seen a lot of posts about it on here.

Ft?

 

[LostBoy]

Do not jump in front of a train or any other method that causes some poor person un involved until now in your life to be riddled with guilt, choose a way that only involves you, plenty to pick from if you open your mind, sorry this may sound harsh but suicide should only involve yourself, your supporters and possibly the person that's driving you to it, not the average Jo doing a shift at work.

 

[Chinaski]

Do not jump in front of a train or any other method that causes some poor person un involved until now in your life to be riddled with guilt, choose a way that only involves you, plenty to pick from if you open your mind, sorry this may sound harsh but suicide should only involve yourself, your supporters and possibly the person that's driving you to it, not the average Jo doing a shift at work.

This is a regular argument against using the train as a method and whilst it's not without merit l struggle to understand why it's always put forward with such ferocity; whichever method one chooses, someone is likely to discover an unpleasant corpse and perhaps have some trauma to cope with. Whilst the possible impact upon the driver is a negative when considering this method l consider it a bit peculiar that only this method elicits such a full-throated discouragement compared to other methods which are similarly unpleasant for the "average Joe" who have to deal with the aftermath.

 

[hemonpath]

The only thing I can recommend is that you please do not involve other people in your departure. Train

This is a regular argument against using the train as a method and whilst it's not without merit l struggle to understand why it's always put forward with such ferocity; whichever method one chooses, someone is likely to discover an unpleasant corpse and perhaps have some trauma to cope with. Whilst the possible impact upon the driver is a negative when considering this method l consider it a bit peculiar that only this method elicits such a full-throated discouragement compared to other methods which are similarly unpleasant for the "average Joe" who have to deal with the aftermath.

I was in the middle of typing when this reply came so I'm not replying to you in particular but to this general (and justified) sentiment.

Some time back I experienced someone CTBing as a passenger of a train headed back home. While it was a unique experience that costed me 3 hours of my normal commute, all I felt was 'annoyance.' And as someone who want's to be brave enough to ctb in the future I know how strange it sounds to discredit such a thing, but in the end I only felt one thing 'This person wanted to make a scene and/or cause a problem for someone or was 'crying for help'.' That's the honest feeling I got at the time of the incident so yeah Id seriously derecommend people from ctbing using public transportation. It sends the wrong message completeley. It means you were hurting in a way that you were still concerned about what people think about you and you wanted to make some sort of statement/provoke empathy.

I am an idiot for typing that out, but that is how I feel about this business. When I ctb, ideally I'd like to do it as detached and 'unprovokative' as possible, such that I can stay true to my conviction for ctbing in the first place.

 

[Johnnythefox]

The only thing I can recommend is that you please do not involve other people in your departure. Train


I was in the middle of typing when this reply came so I'm not replying to you in particular but to this general (and justified) sentiment.

Some time back I experienced someone CTBing as a passenger of a train headed back home. While it was a unique experience that costed me 3 hours of my normal commute, all I felt was 'annoyance.' And as someone who want's to be brave enough to ctb in the future I know how strange it sounds to discredit such a thing, but in the end I only felt one thing 'This person wanted to make a scene and/or cause a problem for someone or was 'crying for help'.' That's the honest feeling I got at the time of the incident so yeah Id seriously derecommend people from ctbing using public transportation. It sends the wrong message completeley. It means you were hurting in a way that you were still concerned about what people think about you and you wanted to make some sort of statement/provoke empathy.

I am an idiot for typing that out, but that is how I feel about this business. When I ctb, ideally I'd like to do it as detached and 'unprovokative' as possible, such that I can stay true to my conviction for ctbing in the first place.

I had a definite sense of deja vu reading that, I definitely read that on here before I'm sure.

 

[Chinaski]

The only thing I can recommend is that you please do not involve other people in your departure. Train


I was in the middle of typing when this reply came so I'm not replying to you in particular but to this general (and justified) sentiment.

Some time back I experienced someone CTBing as a passenger of a train headed back home. While it was a unique experience that costed me 3 hours of my normal commute, all I felt was 'annoyance.' And as someone who want's to be brave enough to ctb in the future I know how strange it sounds to discredit such a thing, but in the end I only felt one thing 'This person wanted to make a scene and/or cause a problem for someone or was 'crying for help'.' That's the honest feeling I got at the time of the incident so yeah Id seriously derecommend people from ctbing using public transportation. It sends the wrong message completeley. It means you were hurting in a way that you were still concerned about what people think about you and you wanted to make some sort of statement/provoke empathy.

I am an idiot for typing that out, but that is how I feel about this business. When I ctb, ideally I'd like to do it as detached and 'unprovokative' as possible, such that I can stay true to my conviction for ctbing in the first place.

I was on a train once which was significantly delayed due to a suicide and, despite the passengers being made aware of this, there was still a great deal of disgruntled griping from commuters who were so angry that they were going to be late for their important meeting that they honestly didn't give a fuck about what the reason was. These cunts deserve to be delayed imo, pissing these pricks off is a positive, not negative aspect of this method in my opinion.

The essential point l was making was 'each to their own'; if saving others from trauma of suicide was honestly such a priority, very few people would ctb at all.

 

[onewayroad]

Ft?

Do you mean what height is beachy head? 531 ft according to google.

 

[tariq aqeel]

Do you mean what height is beachy head? 531 ft according to google.

Yes

 

[tariq aqeel]

Do you mean what height is beachy head? 531 ft according to google.

Wow

 

[LostBoy]

If you involve a someone in the act it would be far more traumatic for them then if they found your body, that's how I'd think anyway because effectively the train driver has killed you as apose to someone finding a corpse. Please if you have to do it find a way that only involves yourself, sure someone will find you but hopefully not kill you.

 

[tariq aqeel]

If you involve a someone in the act it would be far more traumatic for them then if they found your body, that's how I'd think anyway because effectively the train driver has killed you as apose to someone finding a corpse. Please if you have to do it find a way that only involves yourself, sure someone will find you but hopefully not kill you.

What way???

 

[Smilla]

Threaten to shoot the queen with a brownie in the shape of a gun?

 

[TiredHorse]

This is a regular argument against using the train as a method and whilst it's not without merit l struggle to understand why it's always put forward with such ferocity; whichever method one chooses, someone is likely to discover an unpleasant corpse and perhaps have some trauma to cope with. Whilst the possible impact upon the driver is a negative when considering this method l consider it a bit peculiar that only this method elicits such a full-throated discouragement compared to other methods which are similarly unpleasant for the "average Joe" who have to deal with the aftermath.

I suppose the reason I flinch away from people using this method is that the driver can see what is about to happen, every part of his instincts revolt against being party to it, and yet he can't do a thing to stop the inevitable. There's no way he can stop the train in time, and turning is certainly out of the question. That moment of anticipation must be genuinely horrific: despite that you would do anything to avoid it, you're about to kill someone. That the person intends to end their life is very cold comfort.

 

[Chinaski]

I suppose the reason I flinch away from people using this method is that the driver can see what is about to happen, every part of his instincts revolt against being party to it, and yet he can't do a thing to stop the inevitable. There's no way he can stop the train in time, and turning is certainly out of the question. That moment of anticipation must be genuinely horrific: despite that you would do anything to avoid it, you're about to kill someone. That the person intends to end their life is very cold comfort.

That's fine, it's not my method of choice either, but the argument against using trains as a method for this reason is often put very strongly and assertively on here to the point of determined dissuasion, yet a similar argument could be made about jumping from tall buildings or blowing off your head with a firearm but l don't recall it being made. I agree it's tough on the poor old train driver but if that's the method some folk find most suitable and practical l sure as hell aren't going to jump in and bellow "WHAT ABOUT THE DRIVER YOU SELFISH PRICK?" at them.

 

[Pegasus]

That's fine, it's not my method of choice either, but the argument against using trains as a method for this reason is often put very strongly and assertively on here to the point of determined dissuasion, yet a similar argument could be made about jumping from tall buildings or blowing off your head with a firearm but l don't recall it being made. I agree it's tough on the poor old train driver but if that's the method some folk find most suitable and practical l sure as hell aren't going to jump in and bellow "WHAT ABOUT THE DRIVER YOU SELFISH PRICK?" at them.

It's not just the train driver though. It's the passengers too.

 

[Arak]

Concerning the train method,

you said you live in the UK. I live in The Netherlands, and the train method might not be the way for us to go out. At least on this side of the pond, the trains have 'guards' in front of the wheel so you can't get your neck chopped off by the wheels. The trains in the UK might have this too, so watch out.
Furthermore, make sure you jump somewhere where A) the driver can't see you early enough to stop the train and B) the train is driving fast enough.

They do ? I'm not going to write where I live except somewhere in Western Europe. I checked pics of local trains and I didn't see an obvious guard, let alone pilot or 'wheel protection'. It's really hard to see the details, the wheel would ride over your neck I guess but it may not exactly be a nice way to cut your head off. If there were possible at all.

 

[Arak]

It's not just the train driver though. It's the passengers too.

Just a nuisance to passengers. I've experienced this as a passenger, without actually seeing it. My arrogance ! They won't be traumatized, just annoyed.

 

[Pegasus]

Just a nuisance to passengers. I've experienced this as a passenger, without actually seeing it. My arrogance ! They won't be traumatized, just annoyed.

But some people can be traumatized for life seeing a person turn to mince meat in front of them. Only a sociopath won't be moved by such a sight.

 

[Chinaski]

Just a nuisance to passengers. I've experienced this as a passenger, without actually seeing it. My arrogance ! They won't be traumatized, just annoyed.

Yup, as stated above, they'll be more interested in bellowing their insistence that a replacement private limo is sent to deliver them to their Very lmportant Conference at bemused transport staff than they will be interested in the cause of the delay. I've seen it.

 

[Chinaski]

But some people can be traumatized for life seeing a person turn to mince meat in front of them. Only a sociopath won't be moved by such a sight.

Same applies to a lot of methods. Most of them will potentially cause trauma to the non sociopathic.

 

[Pegasus]

Same applies to a lot of methods. Most of them will potentially cause trauma to the non sociopathic.

But trains cause the most trauma to the human body. It's gory af.

 

[Chinaski]

But trains cause the most trauma to the human body. It's gory af.

Yes, but there isn't a method which can definitely cause zero trauma. To insist that someone abandons their method in favour of one 30% less traumatic for others is not a strong argument tbh and l won't judge anyone in a negative way for choosing the train as a method, and this is often done on here.