Discussion My Theory About Consciousness And Death

[dEATHiSmYgOD]

Have you notice the time between falling asleep and waking up from your sleep is almost instant? This also applies to the time in suddenly becoming unconscious and regaining consciousness. Now my theory is when you die, in your own perspective, time will pass by infinitely fast until you become conscious of time again. The universe will begin and end an infinite number of times in your own perspective. Infinity years ago I didn't existed. Infinity years from that time, I existed. You will only realize you have fallen asleep when you wake up. What I'm trying to say is, reincarnation is real and consciousness is eternal. I know it is insane but I think it is true even if you and I hate it.
The universe is the one who will decide when will you be conscious or unconscious. It is possible you have lived this life an infinite number of times. The universe is full of laws. But there are limits and since you have a limit and an infinite time, every possibilities will eventually be exhausted and everything will repeat again in an endless cycle just like from star to nebula to star or seed to tree to seed. I also have a theory, the universe is both an evil and kind entity but I'll discuss that on another time.

 

[Circles]

Have you notice the time between falling asleep and waking up from your sleep is almost instant? This also applies to the time in suddenly becoming unconscious and regaining consciousness. Now my theory is when you die, in your own perspective, time will pass by infinitely fast until you become conscious of time again. The universe will begin and end an infinite number of times in your own perspective. Infinity years ago I didn't existed. Infinity years from that time, I existed. You will only realize you have fallen asleep when you wake up. What I'm trying to say is, reincarnation is real and consciousness is eternal. I know it is insane but I think it is true even if you and I hate it.
The universe is the one who will decide when will you be conscious or unconscious. It is possible you have lived this life an infinite number of times. The universe is full of laws. But there are limits and since you have a limit and an infinite time, every possibilities will eventually be exhausted and everything will repeat again in an endless cycle just like from star to nebula to star or seed to tree to seed. I also have a theory, the universe is both an evil and kind entity but I'll discuss that on another time.

This is what I've felt also but it's something I dread the most. The thought that for those who are suicidal or suffer through life to finally be at peace once we're dead and it goes by in an instant and then repeating the same shit life over and over again? Like just wow, it's sickening. And it's just disgusting that it forces all these beings into living without consent. What I learned also by reading the Egg story where basically we are the universe or whatever it is experiencing itself with every possible life that can exist in every universe that permits life but we don't know what can be considered 'life' to that All-niverse. I feel like it feeds on suffering through life experiencing and escaping its own torment of existing forever. It's like if god or the Void got bored of being by itself and so it created us out of spite. Like fuck whatever it is. It's just too much.
Its only good is masking whatever deep insecurities it has over the bad shit it continues to let happen. It has all this power and yet It can't choose itself to not exist. Fucking psychotic sadist whatever it is.

 

[Tortured_empath]

I understand what you mean. Just like a monkey hammering away at a piano will eventually play mozart.

I just have one question; what makes you, you? The exact structure of molecules in your body? Your memories and experiences? Your habits? The way your brain cells are structured?

Let's say an infinity amount of time has passed by, the stars allign and a person is born with the exact same gene-set as yours, would that still be you? Surely you would have no recollection of your past life... so the theory of 'waking up again' to experience conciousness dosen't seem that logical to me. If I met an exact identical version of myself, I wouldn't consider him to be me either. It would be a brand new conciousness, identical maybe, but still brand new.

So in my perspective, when I die, it's lights out for this conciousness, and therefore also for me.

 

[dEATHiSmYgOD]

I understand what you mean. Just like a monkey hammering away at a piano will eventually play mozart.

I just have one question; what makes you, you? The exact structure of molecules in your body? Your memories and experiences? Your habits? The way your brain cells are structured?

Let's say an infinity amount of time has passed by, the stars allign and a person is born with the exact same gene-set as yours, would that still be you? Surely you would have no recollection of your past life... so the theory of 'waking up again' to experience conciousness dosen't seem that logical to me. If I met an exact identical version of myself, I wouldn't consider him to be me either. It would be a brand new conciousness, identical maybe, but still brand new.

So in my perspective, when I die, it's lights out for this conciousness, and therefore also for me.

Another question that bothers me is.. Why am "I" in this body instead of someone else? What is the quantum mechanics involved when the sperm and egg cell joined that resulted into "me" being in this body instead of another "me"?

 

[Orin]

Another question that bothers me is.. Why am "I" in this body instead of someone else? What is the quantum mechanics involved when the sperm and egg cell joined that resulted into "me" being in this body instead of another "me"?

Very thought provoking.

In my personal experience, sometimes when i am interacting with others, usually while doing something fun, i somehow forget that i am "me" and sooner or later i realize "oh yeah, i am this consciousness assigned to this fleshbag designated as (insert name)".

Some people believe that we are all the same entity experiencing life thru different perspectives. As if this entity were a hand and each of us were fingers of this hand.

 

[Final Escape]

Very thought provoking.

In my personal experience, sometimes when i am interacting with others, usually while doing something fun, i somehow forget that i am "me" and sooner or later i realize "oh yeah, i am this consciousness assigned to this fleshbag designated as (insert name)".

Some people believe that we are all the same entity experiencing life thru different perspectives. As if this entity were a hand and each of us were fingers of this hand.

Fleshbag lol!

 

[c824767]

Have you notice the time between falling asleep and waking up from your sleep is almost instant? This also applies to the time in suddenly becoming unconscious and regaining consciousness. Now my theory is when you die, in your own perspective, time will pass by infinitely fast until you become conscious of time again. The universe will begin and end an infinite number of times in your own perspective. Infinity years ago I didn't existed. Infinity years from that time, I existed. You will only realize you have fallen asleep when you wake up. What I'm trying to say is, reincarnation is real and consciousness is eternal. I know it is insane but I think it is true even if you and I hate it.
The universe is the one who will decide when will you be conscious or unconscious. It is possible you have lived this life an infinite number of times. The universe is full of laws. But there are limits and since you have a limit and an infinite time, every possibilities will eventually be exhausted and everything will repeat again in an endless cycle just like from star to nebula to star or seed to tree to seed. I also have a theory, the universe is both an evil and kind entity but I'll discuss that on another time.

what about sleep walking https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleepwalking

 

[Lefty]

An interesting theory and its interesting to think about. Though I don't personally believe. Someone in another post on this thread said a monkey pounding on a piano will eventually play mozart. I disagree with this theory because if I play the same chords or frets on guitar, I won't start play like Steve Vai or any other great guitarst. Only by playing different frets and chords and playing and improvising would I improve on guitar. I think the same concept kinda applies to the universe.

This does remind me of that Futurama episode where the universe starts over with another big bang, lol.

 

[irrelevant_string]

Someone in another post on this thread said a monkey pounding on a piano will eventually play mozart. I disagree with this theory because if I play the same chords or frets on guitar, I won't start play like Steve Vai or any other great guitarst.

The claim isn't that the monkey will improve and become as skilled as Mozart by striking keys at random for long enough, but simply that given an infinite amount of time it would eventually (unintentionally) produce the same sequence as is contained in some(any) of Mozart's works.
However inconceivably small, there is still a positive probability that a finite monkey would do that, therefore by introducing infinity to the picture, we get an infinite sequence of independent events, sum of whose probabilities goes to infinity.
The fact now follows from the second Borel-Cantelli lemma.

I can't think of a good way to set up the events for the making of a genome so that they satisfy the conditions for the lemma because of greater dependence between events unless there is an infinite number of times the universe comes in and out of existence or an infinite multiverse.
Still, as Tortured_Empath pointed out, that doesn't imply that the two people would share the same consciousness.
But perhaps it could still be used as a comforting message to people who are worrying about survival of their genes.