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It was 10 years ago. I was an ordinary person who likes to talk about football and politics, hanging with my friends, dreams of getting married and having a child .And i had a social anxiety disorder.

At that time I was going to a math course. I liked a girl from the course. but I didn't know how to approach this girl I liked.

Then I decided to get help from the internet.While I was searching for an help, I saw an article, and it said you can pick up the girl you wanted. The e-book was being sold on the site, it was a great amount. The book was not just about getting girls, but about being a completely different person.And i bought it.

As I read the book, I felt a passion inside of me. It was something I had never felt before. Yes, there have been things I have targeted until now, but none of them has created like this feeling. At that moment I understood that for the first time in my life I want something with passion.

As I read the book, those what wrote in the book became a life goal for me. The book dealt with many topics such as changing beliefs, providing confidence, body language, clothing style, fluent speaking techniques, marketing techniques. The book was originally built on the goal of making you happy before the pick up the girls. İt said make your own life attractive so that you find girls attractive.

And there was a lot of information about women's psychology in the book, and it seemed like I knew women better than women after reading it.And when I transferred this information I got from the book to women, they started to think that I was a very experienced about women.

And book suggested that start a conversation with strangers wherever you go.This would keep your energy high and you could meet new people and gain new friends thanks to this.

And the most important thing was cold approach. So the goal was start a conversation with girls on the street and get their numbers. In the first place, you were starting the conversation with women by asking the address. Thats too hard for me because i had a social anxiety disorder.But i wanted to do this so much.

I read and learned what was written in the book, and started to practice . At this time i met with new guys who interested with cold aproach. İ had a great wingmanship with them. They helped me so much for picking up girls, It was a very enjoyable thing for me, I did not remember that I enjoyed anything so much in my life.

I was also attended different events like dancing,photographing etc. And I was trying to have a conversation with everyone wherever I went.

I started to change slowly.I was even one of the most active men of the class, who was afraid to even raise hand in the class.I used to make jokes in the class constantly, chatting with teachers etc.i had a lot of friends too

And i was succeed at picking up girls , i had different girl friends , but there was a problem,none of the girls I was with were not what I wanted. Firstly I ignored this situation because I was new at seducing.İ was thinking that if i had enough experience, i could be able to get them

But after two years i couldnt make a progress, i was succeed at avarage girls but i didnt want them anymore . I had to reach the girls I wanted. Therefore, I was completely focused picking up girls. Because girls were my passion ,i like spend time with them so much.I was addicted to them.

For a year i did my best but I could not be with the girls I wanted from neither street nor my social circle. The girls I wanted were beautiful girls and there were many guys who wanted to be with them, so my competitors were many. I couldn't get anything except 2 beautiful girls.And after that I felt very tired.I had been unsuccessful on this path that I made for life purpose.

After that i have no purpose anymore. I was depressed for a while. But I could not live like this. I should have returned to life again. But i couldnt enjoy anything,nothing interests me. Neither the conversations with friends, football, nor the events.

Then I went into a deep depression. When the man was depressed, I understood that he was starting to question everything. I started to question the religion I believed at first.İ read quran and bible.After that i had lost faith in god.

Then I continued to read the history of religions, the evolution of morality, the industrial revolution, capitalism, the development of humanity, etc., and as I read and questioned, I was curious about philosophy, and I went to the top of the questioning.i read Descartes,daniel dennett, David Chalmers etc. After that i understood that everything was a lie that i knew.My perspective towards everything had changed completely. Obviously I had changed. But even though I changed from top to bottom, there was only one thing that did not change, and that was my passion for women.

Then I started questioning myself, as I questioned how I came this situation, I realized that the key to everything was the brain. İf i understand how the brain works,i could fix it.After that i started to read all aritcle about brain and psychology.Sometimes I found myself reading the doctorate theses of famous neurologists, psychiatrists.Amygdala,nucleus accumbens,forntal cortex etc.İ had to learn how they work. There was no book that I did not read with psychology and the brain, and this time, my perspective towards both myself and other people changed as I read it, I was looking at concepts like free will, character personality, self, from a different perspective, Again, everything I know about our behaviors was a lie, after a while I started to feel no anger about anybody, because we were all a biological robot.

The brain was like a different universe, mankind had many ways to discover it all, but i thought what I learned was enough for me.After that i transformed my knowledge to practice,i tried meditation,i went to gym ,i went to psychologist i tried celexa,prozac,buspar etc..i tried everything



Despite all these efforts, nothing had changed, I could not enjoy anything. My only focus was women again. The brain had set itself a purpose of life, and when it failed, it was almost closed itself to everything. I was about to go crazy, I was trapped in crazy situation like that.

When I understood that I could not change anymore, I left everything, I stopped communicating with everyone.Only I have been going to work after that coming home 4 years, I have not met anyone, nor have participated in an activity. I have not enjoyed any of them anyway. Losing my father from cancer has finished me further.

And i have nothing to do except cbt
 
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So in short you are trapped by your biological program? If you can't get all the best looking woman, life is not enjoyable is that right?
 
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It was 10 years ago. I was an ordinary person who likes to talk about football and politics, hanging with my friends, dreams of getting married and having a child .And i had a social anxiety disorder.

At that time I was going to a math course. I liked a girl from the course. but I didn't know how to approach this girl I liked.

Then I decided to get help from the internet.While I was searching for an help, I saw an article, and it said you can pick up the girl you wanted. The e-book was being sold on the site, it was a great amount. The book was not just about getting girls, but about being a completely different person.And i bought it.

As I read the book, I felt a passion inside of me. It was something I had never felt before. Yes, there have been things I have targeted until now, but none of them has created like this feeling. At that moment I understood that for the first time in my life I want something with passion.

As I read the book, those what wrote in the book became a life goal for me. The book dealt with many topics such as changing beliefs, providing confidence, body language, clothing style, fluent speaking techniques, marketing techniques. The book was originally built on the goal of making you happy before the pick up the girls. İt said make your own life attractive so that you find girls attractive.

And there was a lot of information about women's psychology in the book, and it seemed like I knew women better than women after reading it.And when I transferred this information I got from the book to women, they started to think that I was a very experienced about women.

And book suggested that start a conversation with strangers wherever you go.This would keep your energy high and you could meet new people and gain new friends thanks to this.

And the most important thing was cold approach. So the goal was start a conversation with girls on the street and get their numbers. In the first place, you were starting the conversation with women by asking the address. Thats too hard for me because i had a social anxiety disorder.But i wanted to do this so much.

I read and learned what was written in the book, and started to practice . At this time i met with new guys who interested with cold aproach. İ had a great wingmanship with them. They helped me so much for picking up girls, It was a very enjoyable thing for me, I did not remember that I enjoyed anything so much in my life.

I was also attended different events like dancing,photographing etc. And I was trying to have a conversation with everyone wherever I went.

I started to change slowly.I was even one of the most active men of the class, who was afraid to even raise hand in the class.I used to make jokes in the class constantly, chatting with teachers etc.i had a lot of friends too

And i was succeed at picking up girls , i had different girl friends , but there was a problem,none of the girls I was with were not what I wanted. Firstly I ignored this situation because I was new at seducing.İ was thinking that if i had enough experience, i could be able to get them

But after two years i couldnt make a progress, i was succeed at avarage girls but i didnt want them anymore . I had to reach the girls I wanted. Therefore, I was completely focused picking up girls. Because girls were my passion ,i like spend time with them so much.I was addicted to them.

For a year i did my best but I could not be with the girls I wanted from neither street nor my social circle. The girls I wanted were beautiful girls and there were many guys who wanted to be with them, so my competitors were many. I couldn't get anything except 2 beautiful girls.And after that I felt very tired.I had been unsuccessful on this path that I made for life purpose.

After that i have no purpose anymore. I was depressed for a while. But I could not live like this. I should have returned to life again. But i couldnt enjoy anything,nothing interests me. Neither the conversations with friends, football, nor the events.

Then I went into a deep depression. When the man was depressed, I understood that he was starting to question everything. I started to question the religion I believed at first.İ read quran and bible.After that i had lost faith in god.

Then I continued to read the history of religions, the evolution of morality, the industrial revolution, capitalism, the development of humanity, etc., and as I read and questioned, I was curious about philosophy, and I went to the top of the questioning.i read Descartes,daniel dennett, David Chalmers etc. After that i understood that everything was a lie that i knew.My perspective towards everything had changed completely. Obviously I had changed. But even though I changed from top to bottom, there was only one thing that did not change, and that was my passion for women.

Then I started questioning myself, as I questioned how I came this situation, I realized that the key to everything was the brain. İf i understand how the brain works,i could fix it.After that i started to read all aritcle about brain and psychology.Sometimes I found myself reading the doctorate theses of famous neurologists, psychiatrists.Amygdala,nucleus accumbens,forntal cortex etc.İ had to learn how they work. There was no book that I did not read with psychology and the brain, and this time, my perspective towards both myself and other people changed as I read it, I was looking at concepts like free will, character personality, self, from a different perspective, Again, everything I know about our behaviors was a lie, after a while I started to feel no anger about anybody, because we were all a biological robot.

The brain was like a different universe, mankind had many ways to discover it all, but i thought what I learned was enough for me.After that i transformed my knowledge to practice,i tried meditation,i went to gym ,i went to psychologist i tried celexa,prozac,buspar etc..i tried everything



Despite all these efforts, nothing had changed, I could not enjoy anything. My only focus was women again. The brain had set itself a purpose of life, and when it failed, it was almost closed itself to everything. I was about to go crazy, I was trapped in crazy situation like that.

When I understood that I could not change anymore, I left everything, I stopped communicating with everyone.Only I have been going to work after that coming home 4 years, I have not met anyone, nor have participated in an activity. I have not enjoyed any of them anyway. Losing my father from cancer has finished me further.

And i have nothing to do except cbt

The book that you read essentially encouraged you to be someone that you are not. It's the "Fake it till you make it" approach. You started scoring with women, but you approached them as trophies which made you feel temporarily better.

Woman are not trophies to earn in order to make yourself feel better. That was your mistake.

Read "homecoming" from John Bradshaw. You need to heal your wounded inner child.

Sounds like you attended Trump University and got Trumped. I say it like I see it.

PS: You might assume from my post that I'm a woman, you would be wrong. I'm a man, I don't "score" with women. I treat them with respect and I get dozens of women wanting to get closer to me. I politely explain to them that I'm flattered but I'm gay so it's not going to happen.
 
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So in short you are trapped by your biological program? If you can't get all the best looking woman, life is not enjoyable is that right?

OP said in the first lines that his dream was to get married and have a child. I don't think you're helping by making sarcasm.
 
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So in short you are trapped by your biological program? If you can't get all the best looking woman, life is not enjoyable is that right?

yes i trapped. after reading that book i changed and i feel like a casanova,girls(not all of them) are source of my life, i cant be without them. its my biological program and i cant change this
The book that you read essentially encouraged you to be someone that you are not. It's the "Fake it till you make it" approach. You started scoring with women, but you approached them as trophies which made you feel temporarily better.

Woman are not trophies to earn in order to make yourself feel better. That was your mistake.

Read "homecoming" from John Bradshaw. You need to heal your wounded inner child.

Sounds like you attended Trump University and got Trumped. I say it like I see it.

PS: You might assume from my post that I'm a woman, you would be wrong. I'm a man, I don't "score" with women. I treat them with respect and I get dozens of women wanting to get closer to me. I politely explain to them that I'm flattered but I'm gay so it's not going to happen.

thanks for your advice
 
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KiraLittleOwl

Lost in transition
Jan 25, 2019
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yes i trapped. after reading that book i changed and i feel like a casanova,girls(not all of them) are source of my life, i cant be without them. its my biological program and i cant change this
I feel the same but about being pretty/sexy.
Is this the other side of the same coin I wonder.
 
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Lastravel

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Feb 23, 2020
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what are you talking about by saying " it's my biological program ? "

I'm confused about your story, you seem to be depressed, and the fact your father recently passed out has probably not help,
what is the diagnosis of your psychiatrist ?
 
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what are you talking about by saying " it's my biological program ? "

I'm confused about your story, you seem to be depressed, and the fact your father recently passed out has probably not help,
what is the diagnosis of your psychiatrist ?

my biological program=my passion for women

Psychiatrist diagnosis is depression
 
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Inferdan

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Nov 3, 2019
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my biological program=my passion for women

Psychiatrist diagnosis is depression
It's possible to change your purpose in life. I've seen it happen. If you truly want to live and experience everything life has to offer, gather what strength you have and start figuring out ways you can take. The first step is always the hardest. You say it's a biological program, right? Take control of that. Reprogram yourself as you did before. It'll be slow at first, but you'll be able to find purpose, if you so choose to push yourself and try and find one.
Sorry if this bothers you in any way, I'm not thinking straight atm, hope this helps :D
 
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