todes8ngel

todes8ngel

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Oct 28, 2019
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Hi Everyone. Just joined but been reading for awhile now. A little about me. I am an early 30s female professional. I have 2 college degrees and a well paying job i love. I have lived a well off life so far. I Have great friends and family. I have no debt. I'm Financially well off. I vacation 8 to 10 weeks out of the year. Been to over 50 countries. Not depressed. Never been diagnosed with anything. Yet I have never wanted to live. Since my teenage years I had always hope I would go to sleep and never wake up. Lately, it has hit me more than ever to never want to wake up again. its weird because i love going to work and seeing my colleagues and friends and family. I really don't know why. I cant explain why. My friends and family would die to hear of anything horrible that has happened to me. I wouldn't want to hurt any of them but I don't want to be here. I'm not hurting. I'm not unhappy. I'm not financially unhealthy. I just don't want to be here. given the chose to continue living this life or to take a forever sleeping pill i would take the pill. I wish i could explain but I cant. It scares me.
 
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Hunter100

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I know the feeling. I can't find joy in anything I do. I am sick of pretending.... it's just so daunting
 
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GreyMonkey

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And so where are you at with that?
What now?

I hear you though. It sounds so confusing.
 
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And so where are you at with that?
What now?

I hear you though. It sounds so confusing.

I don't know where it's at. I live everyday as it come but I wish they wouldn't come.
 
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You can't help the way you feel. I'm sure it must be very confusing and frustrating though. :heart:
 
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Do you have a partner? Children? Is there something more you want? Is it an existential "what's the point?" kind of feeling... or something else?
 
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The only way out is through
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Some of us feel like we don't really belong in this world and never have. This world isn't our real home. We don't belong here.
 
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Do you have a partner? Children? Is there something more you want? Is it an existential "what's the point?" kind of feeling... or something else?

Probably more of what's the point. I've known my partner since I was 19. We are both happy with our life. We're not married but that's because we both dont think we need a piece of paper to validate our love. Our family gets along great with each other. We adopted our son from birth 3 yrs ago. Not that I have any issues but because I didnt want to give birth to any child since I didnt want to bring anyone into this world that I dont wish to exist in but I wanted to give a child a good life that was brought into this world without a choice. Theres nothing I want in life that i already dont have.
 
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The only way out is through
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Probably more of what's the point. I've known my partner since I was 19. We are both happy with our life. We're not married but that's because we both dont think we need a piece of paper to validate our love. Our family gets along great with each other. We adopted our son from birth 3 yrs ago. Not that I have any issues but because I didnt want to give birth to any child since I didnt want to bring anyone into this world that I dont wish to exist in but I wanted to give a child a good life that was brought into this world without a choice. Theres nothing I want in life that i already dont have.
Sometimes you have everything that the world thinks you must have to be considered happy and successful. But it just doesn't fit or feel right. Those deaths are the hardest for survivors to reconcile because they see that if someone who has everything can CTB, why am I still here?
 
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Hi Everyone. Just joined but been reading for awhile now. A little about me. I am an early 30s female professional. I have 2 college degrees and a well paying job i love. I have lived a well off life so far. I Have great friends and family. I have no debt. I'm Financially well off. I vacation 8 to 10 weeks out of the year. Been to over 50 countries. Not depressed. Never been diagnosed with anything. Yet I have never wanted to live. Since my teenage years I had always hope I would go to sleep and never wake up. Lately, it has hit me more than ever to never want to wake up again. its weird because i love going to work and seeing my colleagues and friends and family. I really don't know why. I cant explain why. My friends and family would die to hear of anything horrible that has happened to me. I wouldn't want to hurt any of them but I don't want to be here. I'm not hurting. I'm not unhappy. I'm not financially unhealthy. I just don't want to be here. given the chose to continue living this life or to take a forever sleeping pill i would take the pill. I wish i could explain but I cant. It scares me.
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I understand you. Even when I had everything I wanted in life and I felt happy and safe I missed being dead.

I have wanted to go home to afterlife ever since my nde as a kid. After that I felt I didn't belong here but I also got no joy from materia and superficial things others did making hard for me to fit in. I wouldn't fit with religious people either. For me afterlife was pure love and peace that isn't found in worldly religions either.
But worst part is that I remember the joy, peace and happiness that we can't have in this wordly life very clearly and I remember it was my home and I miss there every day.

Even if I would think death as nothingness, peacefull non-existence I would sometimes miss it.
I have also always wanted to know things I believe we will know after this earthly life is over.

I think that if people had button to stop existing most would be dead.
 
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Whitewash11235814

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Oct 21, 2019
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Interesting. It seems like you have the capacity and means to feel contentment and joy, but yet you still wish to never wake up. I think this is a fleeting feeling and/or thought that pops up every now and then. I'm guessing you don't feel like this every minute, especially when you're conversing with friends and having a good time.

I'm guessing for you it's more of a "so what?" type of feeling. Not necessarily existential but more of a "Meh".

Well, you're financially stable, have friends and family, and at least occasionally enough time to cutoff from tedious routines. All of these are great, but maybe you lack a strong passion in life. Do you have a partner? Try different things with ur partner, perhaps smoke some weed and have fun. When those thoughts of death resurface, remember that by cutting off your life you'll lose the potential to have more of those good times. Clearly, you're able to derive joy from life. Try to acknowledge its existence when you're feeling down or are in a neutral "meh" kinda of state.

I think it'd be good to think about this a little more. A decision like this should never be made impulsively.
 
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Hi Everyone. Just joined but been reading for awhile now. A little about me. I am an early 30s female professional. I have 2 college degrees and a well paying job i love. I have lived a well off life so far. I Have great friends and family. I have no debt. I'm Financially well off. I vacation 8 to 10 weeks out of the year. Been to over 50 countries. Not depressed. Never been diagnosed with anything. Yet I have never wanted to live. Since my teenage years I had always hope I would go to sleep and never wake up. Lately, it has hit me more than ever to never want to wake up again. its weird because i love going to work and seeing my colleagues and friends and family. I really don't know why. I cant explain why. My friends and family would die to hear of anything horrible that has happened to me. I wouldn't want to hurt any of them but I don't want to be here. I'm not hurting. I'm not unhappy. I'm not financially unhealthy. I just don't want to be here. given the chose to continue living this life or to take a forever sleeping pill i would take the pill. I wish i could explain but I cant. It scares me.
you say your not unhappy-bored perhaps? fed up with the inertia of life? certainly sounds like a strange quandary-but usual in that you've felt this way since your teenage years and yet have been happy (as you say your not unhappy) -maybe there is a side to yourself you have not explored beyond a conventional career-family life-maybe yr frustrated or slightly supressed in some way - just throwing ideas around...
 
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The only way out is through
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Interesting. It seems like you have the capacity and means to feel contentment and joy, but yet you still wish to never wake up. I think this is a fleeting feeling and/or thought that pops up every now and then. I'm guessing you don't feel like this every minute, especially when you're conversing with friends and having a good time.

I'm guessing for you it's more of a "so what?" type of feeling. Not necessarily existential but more of a "Meh".

Well, you're financially stable, have friends and family, and at least occasionally enough time to cutoff from tedious routines. All of these are great, but maybe you lack a strong passion in life. Do you have a partner? Try different things with ur partner, perhaps smoke some weed and have fun. When those thoughts of death resurface, remember that by cutting off your life you'll lose the potential to have more of those good times. Clearly, you're able to derive joy from life. Try to acknowledge its existence when you're feeling down or are in a neutral "meh" kinda of state.

I think it'd be good to think about this a little more. A decision like this should never be made impulsively.
Are you a new pro-lifer or one who naturally looks on the bright side of life?
 
Sweet emotion

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I know the feeling. I can't find joy in anything I do. I am sick of pretending.... it's just so daunting
I don't mean to be rude but I don't think you understand when you read people's posts. She is saying that she has a lot of joy in her life and it's very full yet she still wants to kill herself. Maybe you need to read them twice.
Hi Everyone. Just joined but been reading for awhile now. A little about me. I am an early 30s female professional. I have 2 college degrees and a well paying job i love. I have lived a well off life so far. I Have great friends and family. I have no debt. I'm Financially well off. I vacation 8 to 10 weeks out of the year. Been to over 50 countries. Not depressed. Never been diagnosed with anything. Yet I have never wanted to live. Since my teenage years I had always hope I would go to sleep and never wake up. Lately, it has hit me more than ever to never want to wake up again. its weird because i love going to work and seeing my colleagues and friends and family. I really don't know why. I cant explain why. My friends and family would die to hear of anything horrible that has happened to me. I wouldn't want to hurt any of them but I don't want to be here. I'm not hurting. I'm not unhappy. I'm not financially unhealthy. I just don't want to be here. given the chose to continue living this life or to take a forever sleeping pill i would take the pill. I wish i could explain but I cant. It scares me.
Yes I definitely never heard of this one before and yes it is very strange. Honestly don't know what to say. Maybe you should see a therapist.
 
WhiteDespair

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The Temporary Problem is Life
Oct 24, 2019
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Probably more of what's the point. I've known my partner since I was 19. We are both happy with our life. We're not married but that's because we both dont think we need a piece of paper to validate our love. Our family gets along great with each other. We adopted our son from birth 3 yrs ago. Not that I have any issues but because I didnt want to give birth to any child since I didnt want to bring anyone into this world that I dont wish to exist in but I wanted to give a child a good life that was brought into this world without a choice. Theres nothing I want in life that i already dont have.

There is something you want in life that you don't have. It's an unknown unknown. You don't know that you don't have it.

Your adopted child (good for you) isn't your biological child. There may be a difference. I don't know. I do know that people's perspectives change after they have a child.

Do you have community? Lack of community is rough. It can give you routune, an expanded social circle and a common purpose.

Everything that you listed that you have is material. Maybe you're looking for something more metaphysical.

Take a break from alcohol, drugs and caffeine. See how you feel after 2 weeks.

When did you first notice that you wanted to sleep forever? Was there something that you wanted during that time that you forgot?

What thoughts run through your mind when you're thinking about CtB?
 
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Are you a new pro-lifer or one who naturally looks on the bright side of life?
Hey. I just think it's good to try to offer new outlooks that may be beneficial. Also, her case is a little unusual and I think she might have potential for a good life.

Opposing views help fight tunnel vision. If a person wants to ctb, it's good to list various avenues they may not have explored before. In my opinion, this is not pro-life but just part of wise decision making. Keep in mind that once you take that leap to depart, there is no going back...You won't come back from death. So it goes without saying that a decision like this should ideally be made after much contemplation and exploration. That said, I'm not against ctb and im in support of autonomy, but I'm also for wise decision making.
 
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There is something you want in life that you don't have. It's an unknown unknown. You don't know that you don't have it.

Your adopted child (good for you) isn't your biological child. There may be a difference. I don't know. I do know that people's perspectives change after they have a child.

Do you have community? Lack of community is rough. It can give you routune, an expanded social circle and a common purpose.

Everything that you listed that you have is material. Maybe you're looking for something more metaphysical.

Take a break from alcohol, drugs and caffeine. See how you feel after 2 weeks.

When did you first notice that you wanted to sleep forever? Was there something that you wanted during that time that you forgot?

What thoughts run through your mind when you're thinking about CtB?

Since high school I've had these thoughts. Nothing bad to have triggered these thoughts. I enjoyed high school. I played volleyball, basketball and ran TRACK in high school. I had good teammates and even better friends, many of whom I'm still very close with. I excel academically and went to college on a full academic scholarship. I enjoyed my life in college as well, but still didn't want to live. Even after meeting my partner and knowing how much I love him and he loves me the thoughts of not wanting to live was and still there. After we adopted our son a whole new happiness entered our life yet the thought remains. I love them both. Blood or not, a child is a child and I wouldn't love them anymore or less.

I have a good social network. I only drink socially. I dont do drugs not since my college days a few joint here and there. I avoid caffeine. The last time I had a cup of coffee was in college. At most I drink a can of soda a month. My work place has a gym. I go to the gym everyday at work for 1.5 hrs. I run 3 miles, yoga and lift weights. These thoughts come frequently and usually during times when im doing things I love - at the gym, watching my 3 yr old son at soccer practice, watching my partner cook, out at the spa with my girlfriends, observing my mom teaching my sons to ride his tri-cylce.

I"ve thought many times about seeing a therapist, but honestly not sure what a therapist can do.
 
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Hi todes8ngel, it's hard for me to understand your situation but I totally respect your wishes. Like someone else said maybe there is something else you don't have or haven't experienced that might get you to feel better and want to live. Idk. This kind of reminds me of the suicide of Lucy Gordon. Some people don't seem to have a clear cut reason for doing this. It's hard to figure out. Anyway I remember reading about her a while ago. She was famous, had a new movie that was about to premier and people that new her stated that she wasn't depressed and was out going. Supposedly she had a fight with her boyfriend and then the next day he woke up and she had hanged herself though the night. Supposedly it wasn't even a big fight. Couldn't find anymore info on it though. Who knows this world is strange and full of suffering though I know that. Hope that something works out for you.
 
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Since high school I've had these thoughts. Nothing bad to have triggered these thoughts. I enjoyed high school. I played volleyball, basketball and ran TRACK in high school. I had good teammates and even better friends, many of whom I'm still very close with. I excel academically and went to college on a full academic scholarship. I enjoyed my life in college as well, but still didn't want to live. Even after meeting my partner and knowing how much I love him and he loves me the thoughts of not wanting to live was and still there. After we adopted our son a whole new happiness entered our life yet the thought remains. I love them both. Blood or not, a child is a child and I wouldn't love them anymore or less.

I have a good social network. I only drink socially. I dont do drugs not since my college days a few joint here and there. I avoid caffeine. The last time I had a cup of coffee was in college. At most I drink a can of soda a month. My work place has a gym. I go to the gym everyday at work for 1.5 hrs. I run 3 miles, yoga and lift weights. These thoughts come frequently and usually during times when im doing things I love - at the gym, watching my 3 yr old son at soccer practice, watching my partner cook, out at the spa with my girlfriends, observing my mom teaching my sons to ride his tri-cylce.

I"ve thought many times about seeing a therapist, but honestly not sure what a therapist can do.
Too me something doesn't sound right- and I could well be wrong of course - like too much perfect - too much everything is 'great' , like it's actually normal and healthy to have a certain amount of stress (not too much mind you) in our lives & it can drive us to keep going, strive for more & compel us to solve current issues - which actually can give us something to focus on -above the just getting up- eating- going to gym routines etc. It's also a normal to have ups & downs - without some lows it's hard to really appreciate the little high points and good things in some ways- perhaps you have kind of plateaud - where everything is fine and very consistent - maybe too much so- in that way life can become like ground hog day - even if said day is nice enough - that can also cause immense dissatisfaction - it's good to have things that shake us up a bit from routine & bring us 'back to life' so to speak, but you sound like you like to be in control & maybe have a bit of an ocd kind of thing when it comes to sticking to all those routines so rigourously...just spouting theories - I could be so far from the mark & talking total nonsense. Oh just one other thing - do you know if anyone in yr family has felt this way? Genetics?
Hi todes8ngel, it's hard for me to understand your situation but I totally respect your wishes. Like someone else said maybe there is something else you don't have or haven't experienced that might get you to feel better and want to live. Idk. This kind of reminds me of the suicide of Lucy Gordon. Some people don't seem to have a clear cut reason for doing this. It's hard to figure out. Anyway I remember reading about her a while ago. She was famous, had a new movie that was about to premier and people that new her stated that she wasn't depressed and was out going. Supposedly she had a fight with her boyfriend and then the next day he woke up and she had hanged herself though the night. Supposedly it wasn't even a big fight. Couldn't find anymore info on it though. Who knows this world is strange and full of suffering though I know that. Hope that something works out for you.
I always thought hers was a particularly striking case - thou as people here have rightly asserted - no one else know someone's own personal demons- but none the less- I couldn't stop thinking about it! I guess I was comparing it to my ow situation a lot- esp. being she was a girl - similar age ( though total opposite life) & yet she just up and did that one day- and here I am trying for months- seemingly unable too! Despite outwardly me being a hell of alot more screwed up then her & on a paper a much more pitiful existence - with obvious trauma points. So strange.
 
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Since high school I've had these thoughts. Nothing bad to have triggered these thoughts. I enjoyed high school. I played volleyball, basketball and ran TRACK in high school. I had good teammates and even better friends, many of whom I'm still very close with. I excel academically and went to college on a full academic scholarship. I enjoyed my life in college as well, but still didn't want to live. Even after meeting my partner and knowing how much I love him and he loves me the thoughts of not wanting to live was and still there. After we adopted our son a whole new happiness entered our life yet the thought remains. I love them both. Blood or not, a child is a child and I wouldn't love them anymore or less.

I have a good social network. I only drink socially. I dont do drugs not since my college days a few joint here and there. I avoid caffeine. The last time I had a cup of coffee was in college. At most I drink a can of soda a month. My work place has a gym. I go to the gym everyday at work for 1.5 hrs. I run 3 miles, yoga and lift weights. These thoughts come frequently and usually during times when im doing things I love - at the gym, watching my 3 yr old son at soccer practice, watching my partner cook, out at the spa with my girlfriends, observing my mom teaching my sons to ride his tri-cylce.

I"ve thought many times about seeing a therapist, but honestly not sure what a therapist can do.

I have a question, aside from death, what do you want? You have done all these things and like myself they come up short in the purpose department? Is it that you dont see a purpose in life?
Or is it more that generally you are a happy person you just often think about dying?
 
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Too me something doesn't sound right- and I could well be wrong of course - like too much perfect - too much everything is 'great' , like it's actually normal and healthy to have a certain amount of stress (not too much mind you) in our lives & it can drive us to keep going, strive for more & compel us to solve current issues - which actually can give us something to focus on -above the just getting up- eating- going to gym routines etc. It's also a normal to have ups & downs - without some lows it's hard to really appreciate the little high points and good things in some ways- perhaps you have kind of plateaud - where everything is fine and very consistent - maybe too much so- in that way life can become like ground hog day - even if said day is nice enough - that can also cause immense dissatisfaction - it's good to have things that shake us up a bit from routine & bring us 'back to life' so to speak, but you sound like you like to be in control & maybe have a bit of an ocd kind of thing when it comes to sticking to all those routines so rigourously...just spouting theories - I could be so far from the mark & talking total nonsense. Oh just one other thing - do you know if anyone in yr family has felt this way? Genetics?

I always thought hers was a particularly striking case - thou as people here have rightly asserted - no one else know someone's own personal demons- but none the less- I couldn't stop thinking about it! I guess I was comparing it to my ow situation a lot- esp. being she was a girl - similar age ( though total opposite life) & yet she just up and did that one day- and here I am trying for months- seemingly unable too! Despite outwardly me being a hell of alot more screwed up then her & on a paper a much more pitiful existence - with obvious trauma points. So strange.

Thank you for your input. I do agree with you that some stress is/can be good. When I was in school if I wasn't stressed or frustrated I wasn't learning - things were just too easy. Even on the job, sometimes i feel like I have not earned my pay since I went through the day without stressing. But I do have my share of stresses and worries - maybe just not as often and most concerns my family's well being only. I don't think im a control freak or an OCD freak. We all have routines. I don't think routines are OCDs. Going to the gym energize me for the day.

I dont have or know of any family members who has felt this way. I do have a good friend who CTB but that was years after I have felt this way. Last night when falling asleep the thought of not waking up again put a smile on my face followed by sadness that my son will lose his mom, my mom will lose her daughter... It is so hard to block out how others will hurt once im gone. its the only thing that has been keeping me here. im typing this as i smile and watch my son and his dad play less than 20 feet away...
 
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Hmm yeah yr prob right-nothing wrong or unusual about a certain amount of routine? would you feel bad if you broke it do you think? (sounds like im tryin to trick you or something!) but no just genuinely asking. I have to say it is rather unusual comparatively so (in some senses) to many peoples stories on here-as not such glaringly obvious woes that would lead one to feel this way..but at the end of the day we are all unique creatures & how we feel -is just how we feel- i do find it intriguing thou in someways- if that is not a rude thing to say-i dont mean it to be so-it just has a slight mystery to it & i cant help but feel i want to help solve yr feelings & get the crux of it! like do you have any idea why you feel the way you do? despite being 'happy' ? - as i think you stated in a previous post...
 
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Oct 24, 2019
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@todes8ngel so you get a notification.

You said something very interesting: that the thoughts come while you are engaged in activities that you love. Strange that you get those thoughts during those times.

What is the link between the activities where you experience the thoughts?

Initially, it appears that the thoughts come during relaxation or recreational time.

You are a high achiever from the activities, accomplishments, etc. that you've documented in the posts. Great high-paying job, great partner, great house, academic scholarship which suggests high marks in high school and college. You also take care of yourself and, with the amount of exercising you do, I don't think I'm far off that you eat healthily. You also don't do drugs or drink. By your admittance the amounts that you do imbibe are negligible. You also love your son and have a great relationship with him. You have a great social circle and network on both the friends and family side. By all accounts you have it going on.

And, yet, CtB ideation.

Why did you capitalize "TRACK"? You didn't capitalize the other sports.

It appeard that since high school you've been gung ho, going non-stop at your goals and objectives. It isn't too much of a stretch to picture younger you performing in the same way. So, I get the picture of a go-getter, a winner, someone who'll excel at whatever she puts her mind to, maybe a bit of a perfectionist.

And, on the other side, there's a woman with CtB ideation. By your own admittance, the thoughts occur during your relaxation, your down, your recreation time. These are the times when you are not actively engaged in the pursuit of a goal. Yes, you may have goals during the activities (going to do 15 reps with 5lbs more weight, get that exfoliation treatment, make sure your son gets a new soccer ball) and they may be different than your goals while studying, on team sports or at the office (or whereever you work).

It almost seems that you get those thoughts when you're not engaged in productive activities. As in, if you're not being productive, then you're failing and, by failing, you think the thoughts.

Alternatively, it is possible that your high achieving, type A, be productive attitude developed as a means to avoid the CtB thoughts. You know, drown yourself in work so you don't have to think about it. Productivity serves as your distraction. Serious props to you on that one.

That brings up some questions:
1. What is the role productivity played from then until now in your life?
2. Can you remember the times and activities in which you had the thoughts in high school? College?
3. Is there some reason why you need to be productive and/or why being non-productive causes you anguish?
4. Is there someone or someones who instilled that work ethic into you and the complementary reaction ro non-productive times?
5. What are you trying to avoid through productivity?

Of course, I am probably way off as well.

A good idea is to get some empirical data. Go out and get a nice Moleskine notebook because they're awesome. Then, when you get a thought write down the date, time, place, activity and the actual thought. Then, take a look at the information you've collected for patterns. It can provide valuable information and help you link things you otherwise would miss.

An intelligent woman such as youself should have no problem creating a list as to why seeing a therapist would be a good idea. Here are a few reasons that I can see.

1. A therapist is objective. This objectivity allows for insights and connections that would otherwise be missed.
2. You have a loving partner and a son who cherishes you. You should make the attempt so that you can be around for them.
3. You probably have excellent health insurance so it's not like you're breaking thr bank just by trying.
4. You can go for two to three months depending on weekly or biweekly sessions to determine whether or not it's working. Once you get past the introduction and exposition phases and get into the meat of things is wheb you'll get an idea as to whether or not continuing is a good idea.
5. You can be happy and enjoy leisure activities without recurring CtB ideation.
6. You sound like a great woman and a great person. There is no reason for you to suffer unnecessarily.
7. How big of a lie and secret are you carrying every day by not expressing the ideation? That eats at you. Atlas may be holding the world but how long can he keep it up while a rat is gnawing at his heels?
8. You can spare a 2 hour block once a week for self-improvement, right?
9. Do you want to back down from the challenge?
10. Seeing a therapist is an unknown unknown. You don't know the results you'll get and you don't know how you can be helped. Don't you want to solve the mystery and can say, definitively, whether on not seeing a therapist helps?

From personal experience, I found an excellent therapist. Working with him allowed me to drill into my past traumas, confront them and move forward. The sessions have given me great insights and I would cone to revelations an hour or so after the session ended. He challenges me to consider things in a different way. He has helped me redefine and restructure horrible moments in my past so that the story of them isn't one where I'm indulging in self-hate, guilt and sel-resentment. He has confidentiality so I don't have to worry about him speading the gossip and revealing things to mutual contacts. We don't have mutual contacts. I don't have to worry that he'll have a little too much to drink and tell everyone in the spa circle.

Best wishes to you and I hope that you can confront and overcome the ideation so that you, your partner and your son can have all the blessings of a long, fruitful relationship. Besides, this took me a while to write and I'd gladly accept you seeing a therapist one time as payment ; )

I hope that this helps you in some form or fashion.

Be well.
 
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Hi Guys,

I had a 4 day weekend so I went away with my family to our cabin up north to enjoy the waters one more time before winter hits. I appreciate everyone who responded. I have seriously put some thoughts into meeting with a therapist and see how that goes. I will probably be quiet on this site for a while as I think things through. I appreciate you all and I hope you all find peace and happiness, whatever, however that is to you. I will post again when ready - whatever my decision is and I hope to see you all on here again.
 
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