Monkeyman

Monkeyman

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I've felt terrible for a long long time now, honestly I think my life has been pretty bad since childhood (though I was definitely happier back then), but I didn't consider CTB as an option until later in life. Whenever I told people my troubles I'd get told I'm "strong" or something like that, but it was definitelly just stubbornness and stupidity.

I did eventually end up trying. All but the first attempt led to things getting worse and more people abandoning me. I guess in a way that should make me less hesitant to do it for fear of worrying others, since it just shows how I don't really matter overall...

As for why I want to CTB, I think if I went into every reason this post would be pretty cluttered and it's a bit beside the point either way. But most people here would sympathize anyway, I imagine. I made three attempts, and it was before I knew much about methods, which is probably why they failed since I didn't really know how to make it work.

First time, I tried hanging. It followed a particularly nasty fight with my mother, who's a self-centered narcissistic sack of crap. She physically threatened me and then almost broke my knee, all while lying to my face that I attacked her as if she could change reality or whatever. It was just the two of us in the house and she was the one who lunged at me, so it's not like she was trying to make it look to someone else like I was in the blame since there was no one around, and she lied right as it was happening. Was this a terribly dumb attempt at gaslighting? Who knows. Anyway, it took some days and I took the rash decision to try to CTB. I say it was rash because I was unprepared and didn't really think things through, not because I shouldn't have tried it at all. It was a pretty bad attempt at hanging, and SI kicked in and I ended up hesitating and ruining everything. Didn't seem so bad at the time since I just gave up then and thought I'd just keep powering on like always.

The second time was also a hanging attempt. This one was right around the beginning of the Covid pandemic, and I made some basic research but apparently not enough. It wasn't long after I got unemployed - I had been working as a teacher for two years, but it was a temporary contract which I knew wouldn't last forever (though I wished they'd want to renew it, I knew not to keep expectations) and Covid basically ruined my job searches. A "friend" found out about the CTB attempt and insulted me for it, saying I just do things for attention and I don't have anything to offer otherwise. Now, she wasn't a very good friend even before this, there had been some cases you could almost call bullying, but this was a new low and I can't say it didn't hurt me. I cut all contact with her after that and she gladly went on to pretend I never even existed.

I'm not sure if the hanging failed because I got the wrong kind of rope or my knot wasn't good enough, but anyway that was it for the method for me. Some of my friends tried to calm me down afterwards and help me feel better, and later they even got me into therapy (lack of money was a big reason for me not to seek professional help, but they helped me with that). Therapy actually helped me for a while, I started taking meds and recovering from depression, until eventually I didn't even need the meds anymore. It wasn't all roses from then on, though - my psychiatrist warned me that despite medication making me feel a bit better, I wouldn't really recover fully unless I got rid of the things that made me feel this way (family troubles, unemployment etc).

My third attempt was in March 2022. I was in a (supposedly) healthy relationship by then and earlier that month we completed 1 year together. But I was still not managing to get a new job and still had those growing family tensions. I felt like a burden, but didn't want to disappoint my friends or my partner. He had almost tried to CTB one year before and it was mostly because of me that he didn't (or at least that's what he said - he said I "saved his life"). I saw him cutting himself and neglecting to eat, I spent days and nights without sleep trying to take care of him.

But I was already feeling terrible and considering CTB around the end of '21 (by that time it had been many months after that partner's breakdown). I didn't want to do it, but I couldn't stop that feeling of helplessness, of having no future ahead, and that I was just holding back the people who cared about me (or that I thought cared). Then the final catalyst was another fight with my mother where she pretty much confirmed all those insecurities of mine. She straight up called me useless and, really, I agreed. So when she was gone, I sent goodbye messages to some people I believed deserved to know what I was doing and tried to CTB by taking a bunch of pills I still had lying around.

Needless to say that was a terrible method because of how "in the moment" that was and how unplanned and unprepared the whole thing was. All that happened was I vomited a lot and slept (passed out?) for most of the rest of the day. And now, I think it's obvious that the aftermath of all those attempts was always filled with shame. I felt shameful for trying, for failing, it was always a mix of all those feelings.

The next day I saw that my then-partner had actually decided to break up with me because of that. By message. While I was unconscious. He didn't want to know what happened, didn't care, when I tried to talk to him he straight up said it didn't matter. Then he said I had no future and that I was treating him like a doormat... I don't know what he meant with that last one. If anything, he was the one who treated me like crap then and during the months after... but that's another story and I don't want to derail this.

Things didn't really get better after that. Still had family troubles, my mother found out about my CTB attempts but just used it as ammo to make me feel worse before pretending nothing ever happened. I got a new job some time later but it's a terrible one, it makes me lose faith in humanity even more than before.

So my family treats me like crap, I don't know which of my friends I can really trust, I can't land a decent job, and even someone who claims to love me can discard me out of nowhere... I really don't know what other alternative I have. I don't have the will to do anything anymore and it's been like this for a long long time. I'll be ordering SN tonight and making actual preparations so that this time I'm gone for good, and I know I won't be missed.

Just needed to get this off my chest. Thanks to anyone who actually read all the way through.
 
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Shoko

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I am going through the same thing as you.
 
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Papilio_polyxenes

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A failed attempt would be framed as a ploy for attention or sympathy by many others in my life as well. I am so thoroughly despised by most people I know right now.

That's part of the reason I've spent long hours meticulously researching every detail. I will have an antiemetic/SN, two glasses prepared, and a backup method on standby if I wake up.

I haven't informed anyone of my plans either. In fact, I've gone to extremes to pretend that my life is "normal" to others.
 
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FuneralCry

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Failing ctb is what terrifies me and it sounds awful what you went through. It's horrible how other people can just make things worse and create more suffering when enough already exists, but it must be a relief knowing that you will soon have a reliable way to free yourself from this existence. Best of luck.
 
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Mlee75

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It sounds like you have a lot of unhealthy relationships in your life, causing you a lot of pain. I truly understand how a narcissist can affect your life. Have you tried just cutting them out? This is just my opinion but I don't think interpersonal relationships should be a catalyst to CTB. They shouldn't have that power. It's something you should do for you because you want to not because other people push you to feel that way. Again, I'm not trying to sound unsupportive. I'm just giving advice that worked for me- cutting people out of my life that affected my emotions negatively. It improved my life greatly for a while but then again that's just me and I'm not a very social person. Sending a hug across the miles
 
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Monkeyman

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It sounds like you have a lot of unhealthy relationships in your life, causing you a lot of pain. I truly understand how a narcissist can affect your life. Have you tried just cutting them out? This is just my opinion but I don't think interpersonal relationships should be a catalyst to CTB. They shouldn't have that power. It's something you should do for you because you want to not because other people push you to feel that way. Again, I'm not trying to sound unsupportive. I'm just giving advice that worked for me- cutting people out of my life that affected my emotions negatively. It improved my life greatly for a while but then again that's just me and I'm not a very social person. Sending a hug across the miles
I still live with my mother, that's why it's hard to cut her off... the rest aren't really catalysts, just add to the bad feelings. In my country it's currently really hard to move out if you don't already have lots of money, unfortunately.
 
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I'm sorry those bad things happened to you. Life is sometimes very unfair are you still taking meds and going to therapy?
 
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I still live with my mother, that's why it's hard to cut her off... the rest aren't really catalysts, just add to the bad feelings. In my country it's currently really hard to move out if you don't already have lots of money, unfortunately.
That is hard. I just I'm uneasy with people CTB because of others in their lives. After all, those others will die and other people shouldn't have that power over you. It should be your prerogative after you have been able to live your life on your terms as best as you can. I feel for you
 
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I absolutely read every word. I had a mother that was what I call emotionally abusive (as it sounds like you did). Words hurt. Big time- especially from your family. Don't own that. You're better than that. I also know what it's like to try to ctb and fail. That's hard to recover from. Please don't let the uncaring behavior of friends, family and strangers get to you too much. I hope whatever decisions you make you find some peace.
 
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Monkeyman

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That is hard. I just I'm uneasy with people CTB because of others in their lives. After all, those others will die and other people shouldn't have that power over you. It should be your prerogative after you have been able to live your life on your terms as best as you can. I feel for you
I get what you mean. It's not that others are the reason, though - just some added injury. But I get how my initial post made it sound like that, I just didn't want to go into too much detail. Having no stable job or source of income despite actively going out to get that sorted is a big part too - even when I started working again it was a crummy job where I was underpaid, overworked and hearing horrible things every day (and yesterday I found out I'm being let go after I had been put on "vacation").

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I'm sorry those bad things happened to you. Life is sometimes very unfair are you still taking meds and going to therapy?
I stopped in early 2021. Going off meds was a supervised thing with my psychiatrist and a gradual process, then I stopped seeing him altogether because I didn't have money to keep paying for sessions. He did help me a lot at the time, but he told me himself that even if I kept taking medication and seeing him I still wouldn't be 100% fine since I'd only really get better if I managed to get away from these situations that got me depressed in the first place.
 
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I get what you mean. It's not that others are the reason, though - just some added injury. But I get how my initial post made it sound like that, I just didn't want to go into too much detail. Having no stable job or source of income despite actively going out to get that sorted is a big part too - even when I started working again it was a crummy job where I was underpaid, overworked and hearing horrible things every day (and yesterday I found out I'm being let go after I had been put on "vacation").


I stopped in early 2021. Going off meds was a supervised thing with my psychiatrist and a gradual process, then I stopped seeing him altogether because I didn't have money to keep paying for sessions. He did help me a lot at the time, but he told me himself that even if I kept taking medication and seeing him I still wouldn't be 100% fine since I'd only really get better if I managed to get away from these situations that got me depressed in the first place
I hate that the mental health is so expensive
 
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I get what you mean. It's not that others are the reason, though - just some added injury. But I get how my initial post made it sound like that, I just didn't want to go into too much detail. Having no stable job or source of income despite actively going out to get that sorted is a big part too - even when I started working again it was a crummy job where I was underpaid, overworked and hearing horrible things every day (and yesterday I found out I'm being let go after I had been put on "vacation").


I stopped in early 2021. Going off meds was a supervised thing with my psychiatrist and a gradual process, then I stopped seeing him altogether because I didn't have money to keep paying for sessions. He did help me a lot at the time, but he told me himself that even if I kept taking medication and seeing him I still wouldn't be 100% fine since I'd only really get better if I managed to get away from these situations that got me depressed in the first place.
Hugs to you
 
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