My method to blow out brains, critiques, ideas, suggestions?

[Temporary Breakway]

Hello, I am considering buying a shotgun on armslist due to legal issues with purchasing firearms due to past mental health commitments. I am going to sit down , position the gun between my legs, turn my head to the right, place the gun behind my right ear, and pull the trigger. Or I will hold it upwards, I don't know.
I am going to use a tokarev tx3 hammer loaded with triple legion shot shells due to the variety contained. 6 00 buck, 1 light armor piercing slug, and birdshot. If this doesn't kill me, either I am very stupid, or some entity in the universe has a plan so terrible for me I don't want to even think about it.
Any comments appreciated.

 

[Azlia]

there's a chance the recoil makes the shot go lower and your neck get the shot instead, still lethal but slower/painful. this is why i been told putting it on the mouth aiming in diagonal position is the safest bet.

i wish there was an option like armslist on my country it would be more effective than having to do elaborate planning and less chances of failing

 

[itriedinthislife2]

just get a 9mm pistol, put it to the side of ur head use hollow tipo rounds and pull trigger while u scream and ur out 95% sure. dont overthink it. best of luck. after all, it is the best way to CTB

 

[Temporary Breakway]

just get a 9mm pistol, put it to the side of ur head use hollow tipo rounds and pull trigger while u scream and ur out 95% sure. dont overthink it. best of luck. after all, it is the best way to CTB

I'm still gonna go with my 12 gauge
I can include a video that will show how that will work but its gore so

 

[itriedinthislife2]

well that will do it also but i can guarantee even a .22 to the head will do it but hey, 12 guage is going to be gnarly. i wish u peace brother ive been on and off of this sub and i dont doubt ill do it before december but im trying to hang on to what little life i have left
i got a 9mm hollow tip which will take me out instantly. cant do it in my mothers place though thats fucked up

 

[Temporary Breakway]

well that will do it also but i can guarantee even a .22 to the head will do it but hey, 12 guage is going to be gnarly. i wish u peace brother ive been on and off of this sub and i dont doubt ill do it before december but im trying to hang on to what little life i have left
i got a 9mm hollow tip which will take me out instantly. cant do it in my mothers place though thats fucked up

I think you'd need to be pretty precise and a 22 magnum likely could
Personally if I were gonna grab a pistol I'd get 38 acp minimum and get RIP rounds alongside it

 

[MisterOGBongWater]

Don't listen to these other people. If you're gonna blow your brains out a plan like yours has the highest chance of success

 

[itriedinthislife2]

I think you'd need to be pretty precise and a 22 magnum likely could
Personally if I were gonna grab a pistol I'd get 38 acp minimum and get RIP rounds alongside it

u think 9mm hollow tip federal premium should do it? i reckon it will but as to where i do it not sure yet

Don't listen to these other people. If you're gonna blow your brains out a plan like yours has the highest chance of success

yeah but a gun is a gun and pretty lethal reagrdless especially to the head but of course a shotgun woukld do it i mean cmon lol... i bet a .22LR to the side would takr u out also but id use a 9mm and up personally and hollows but even then, fmj would do it also

 

[Temporary Breakway]

u think 9mm hollow tip federal premium should do it? i reckon it will but as to where i do it not sure yet

yeah but a gun is a gun and pretty lethal reagrdless especially to the head but of course a shotgun woukld do it i mean cmon lol... i bet a .22LR to the side would takr u out also but id use a 9mm and up personally and hollows but even then, fmj would do it also

Likely if you shoot behind or somewhat above the ear, I fail to see how it could go wrong unless your 2-3 inches off

Don't listen to these other people. If you're gonna blow your brains out a plan like yours has the highest chance of success

thanks

 

[itriedinthislife2]

im more of a side of the head kinda guy, dont know how that would go wrong either. templeand nah, barrel pressed right against my ugly head
no missing i hope that bullet tears thru and ends it all which it will

 

[bananaolympus]

I read sonewhere that a shotgun blast inside the mouth is the highest success rate, just don't put it under your chin

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

i think that the more energy is released into the brain the more likely to destroy it. a bullet has to penetrate the skull or in the mouth if you hit the brain the bones are less thick than the skul but most bullets seem to have the energy to penetrate the skull and get the brain. so then once inside the head the amount of energy the bullet delivers to the brain . over 2700 the head burst open completely so that's ceratain Death if hit the brain with 2700 foot pounds of energy. notice in this chart that a 9mm hand gun has 362 muzzle energy so this is the amount of energy a contact shot would give to the head and brain . note that many people have been killed with head shots from 10 meters etc. the bullet loses some velocity the farther it is . so that 362 enerfgy would be lower if fired at a distance . but still even less than 362 a 9mm gun is deadly . t' seems to be deadly most times if it's pointed at the brain and don't flinch before shot especiall pointed aimed at or close to the brain stem. but rifles have 10 times the energy as a handgun and seen i the chart :

 

[-NH-ONO2Na]

im more of a side of the head kinda guy, dont know how that would go wrong either. templeand nah, barrel pressed right against my ugly head
no missing i hope that bullet tears thru and ends it all which it will

Hmm I'm sure I have come across reports if people shooting through the side of the head and surviving. Gun in the mount angled upwards seems to be the common suggestion to destroy enough of the important parts of the Bain so that there is no chance of survival.

Outcome of self-inflicted gunshot wounds of the brain - PubMed

A consecutive series of 67 patients who had sustained self-inflicted gunshot wounds of the brain was reviewed retrospectively to evaluate factors determining outcome. Weapon caliber, site of bullet entry, degree of brain wounding on computerized tomographic scan, and presenting Glasgow Coma...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

"Survival rate was significantly increased in patients with injury limited to one lobe of the brain"

A 9mm round is going to do damage to a smaller area, I guess a hollow point round would do more overall damage.

At least with a 00buck all those metal ball bearings are going to hopefully destroy the majority of the brain rather than over penetrating it seems like it would be better for the buckshot to rattle around inside of your skull then penetrate out to the other side.

Also I remember on 8chans suicide board there was a guy who made a helmet with shotgun rounds placed across the helmet and setup to go off all at once and just turn the head to mush. Anyone have any saves from the shotgun helmet, I don't know what else to call it.

 

[Temporary Breakway]

I read sonewhere that a shotgun blast inside the mouth is the highest success rate, just don't put it under your chin

I read sonewhere that a shotgun blast inside the mouth is the highest success rate, just don't put it under your chin

Shotgun boasts to the side tend to be just as

i think that the more energy is released into the brain the more likely to destroy it. a bullet has to penetrate the skull or in the mouth if you hit the brain the bones are less thick than the skul but most bullets seem to have the energy to penetrate the skull and get the brain. so then once inside the head the amount of energy the bullet delivers to the brain . over 2700 the head burst open completely so that's ceratain Death if hit the brain with 2700 foot pounds of energy. notice in this chart that a 9mm hand gun has 362 muzzle energy so this is the amount of energy a contact shot would give to the head and brain . note that many people have been killed with head shots from 10 meters etc. the bullet loses some velocity the farther it is . so that 362 enerfgy would be lower if fired at a distance . but still even less than 362 a 9mm gun is deadly . t' seems to be deadly most times if it's pointed at the brain and don't flinch before shot especiall pointed aimed at or close to the brain stem. but rifles have 10 times the energy as a handgun and seen i the chart :

A muzzle energy chart for common guns, rifles, and shotguns would show a significant variation in power depending on the caliber and ammunition type, with larger rifle calibers like the .50 BMG having much higher muzzle energy compared to smaller handgun calibers or shotgun birdshot loads, typically measured in foot-pounds (ft-lbs)::

• High Power Rifles:
  • .50 BMG: 12,600 ft-lbs
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• .458 Win Mag: 5,063 ft-lbs
  
  
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• .30-06 Springfield: 2,500 ft-lbs
  
  
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• .300 Magnum: 3,000+ ft-lbs
  
  
• Medium Power Rifles:
  • .270 Winchester: 2,000 ft-lbs
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• .22-250 Remington: 1,500 ft-lbs
  
  
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• .308 Winchester: 1,800 ft-lbs
  
  
• Small Game Rifles:
  • .22 LR: 100 ft-lbs
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• .17 HMR: 200 ft-lbs
  
  
• Shotguns:
  • 12 Gauge Slug: 2,300 ft-lbs
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• 12 Gauge Buckshot: 1,500 ft-lbs
  
  
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• 20 Gauge Slug: 1,200 ft-lbs

Important Points to Consider:

• Ammunition Variation: Different ammunition types within the same caliber can significantly impact muzzle energy.
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• Barrel Length: A longer barrel generally increases muzzle velocity and energy.
  
  
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• Bullet Weight: Heavier bullets with similar velocities will have higher muzzle energy.

I also have a cheaper option For a h&r pardner, 20 gauge
You think that will do the trick? I think perhaps

 

[itriedinthislife2]

Hmm I'm sure I have come across reports if people shooting through the side of the head and surviving. Gun in the mount angled upwards seems to be the common suggestion to destroy enough of the important parts of the Bain so that there is no chance of survival.

Outcome of self-inflicted gunshot wounds of the brain - PubMed

A consecutive series of 67 patients who had sustained self-inflicted gunshot wounds of the brain was reviewed retrospectively to evaluate factors determining outcome. Weapon caliber, site of bullet entry, degree of brain wounding on computerized tomographic scan, and presenting Glasgow Coma...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

"Survival rate was significantly increased in patients with injury limited to one lobe of the brain"

A 9mm round is going to do damage to a smaller area, I guess a hollow point round would do more overall damage.

At least with a 00buck all those metal ball bearings are going to hopefully destroy the majority of the brain rather than over penetrating it seems like it would be better for the buckshot to rattle around inside of your skull then penetrate out to the other side.

Also I remember on 8chans suicide board there was a guy who made a helmet with shotgun rounds placed across the helmet and setup to go off all at once and just turn the head to mush. Anyone have any saves from the shotgun helmet, I don't know what else to call it.

theres a chance of survival for any method. is it likely straight side of head in the temple with a hollo point round? probably not lol

 

[MrOptions]

just get a 9mm pistol, put it to the side of ur head use hollow tipo rounds and pull trigger while u scream and ur out 95% sure. dont overthink it. best of luck. after all, it is the best way to CTB

This is the way.

 

[itriedinthislife2]

This is the way.

i am always astonished by these people thinking they would suvive that. its almost maybe, comedy? sure its not a shotgun but its a live 9mm hollow point round to the side of ur head youd have a better chance at winning the lottery

 

[Temporary Breakway]

Hmm I'm sure I have come across reports if people shooting through the side of the head and surviving. Gun in the mount angled upwards seems to be the common suggestion to destroy enough of the important parts of the Bain so that there is no chance of survival.

Outcome of self-inflicted gunshot wounds of the brain - PubMed

A consecutive series of 67 patients who had sustained self-inflicted gunshot wounds of the brain was reviewed retrospectively to evaluate factors determining outcome. Weapon caliber, site of bullet entry, degree of brain wounding on computerized tomographic scan, and presenting Glasgow Coma...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

"Survival rate was significantly increased in patients with injury limited to one lobe of the brain"

A 9mm round is going to do damage to a smaller area, I guess a hollow point round would do more overall damage.

At least with a 00buck all those metal ball bearings are going to hopefully destroy the majority of the brain rather than over penetrating it seems like it would be better for the buckshot to rattle around inside of your skull then penetrate out to the other side.

Also I remember on 8chans suicide board there was a guy who made a helmet with shotgun rounds placed across the helmet and setup to go off all at once and just turn the head to mush. Anyone have any saves from the shotgun helmet, I don't know what else to call it.

With what I'm throwing in hopefully if fired behind the ear I won't be recognizable

i am always astonished by these people thinking they would suvive that. its almost maybe, comedy? sure its not a shotgun but its a live 9mm hollow point round to the side of ur head youd have a better chance at winning the lottery

If I survive this 12 or 20 gauge doing this I will have officially won the worst lottery in existence

 

[itriedinthislife2]

With what I'm throwing in hopefully if fired behind the ear I won't be recognizable

If I survive this 12 or 20 gauge doing this I will have officially won the worst lottery in existence

you wont lol not even a 9mm to the head its very very unlikely

With what I'm throwing in hopefully if fired behind the ear I won't be recognizable

If I survive this 12 or 20 gauge doing this I will have officially won the worst lottery in existence

use hollow points if u want to be 100% certain but a 9mm hollow tip will vanish you like houdini

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

With what I'm throwing in hopefully if fired behind the ear I won't be recognizable

If I survive this 12 or 20 gauge doing this I will have officially won the worst lottery in existence

12 gauge is much more lethal than a 20 gauge . more power. like i said in my post more energy = more power

 

[Temporary Breakway]

there's a chance the recoil makes the shot go lower and your neck get the shot instead, still lethal but slower/painful. this is why i been told putting it on the mouth aiming in diagonal position is the safest bet.

i wish there was an option like armslist on my country it would be more effective than having to do elaborate planning and less chances of failing

Recoil will not matter much as the bullets have left the gun by the time anything has happened

 

[cheshirecat128]

Hello, I am considering buying a shotgun on armslist due to legal issues with purchasing firearms due to past mental health commitments. I am going to sit down , position the gun between my legs, turn my head to the right, place the gun behind my right ear, and pull the trigger. Or I will hold it upwards, I don't know.
I am going to use a tokarev tx3 hammer loaded with triple legion shot shells due to the variety contained. 6 00 buck, 1 light armor piercing slug, and birdshot. If this doesn't kill me, either I am very stupid, or some entity in the universe has a plan so terrible for me I don't want to even think about it.
Any comments appreciated.

How does Armslist work to circumvent background checks/waiting periods? No need to give me specific details of your life OP but are you just living in a state that has really loose gun laws?

Could someone that lives in a very restricted state get a firearm without a permit/license through Armslist?

 

[Temporary Breakway]

How does Armslist work to circumvent background checks/waiting periods? No need to give me specific details of your life OP but are you just living in a state that has really loose gun laws?

Could someone that lives in a very restricted state get a firearm without a permit/license through Armslist?

It gives easy access to finding private sellers
And no, you can't gain permits
In most states you can just throw your shekels forth and get your weapon unless it is a pistol

12 gauge is much more lethal than a 20 gauge . more power. like i said in my post more energy = more power

Would the 20 gauge work? I need death like water
I also wonder if if taping the muzzle would help

 

[L'absent]

i think that the more energy is released into the brain the more likely to destroy it. a bullet has to penetrate the skull or in the mouth if you hit the brain the bones are less thick than the skul but most bullets seem to have the energy to penetrate the skull and get the brain. so then once inside the head the amount of energy the bullet delivers to the brain . over 2700 the head burst open completely so that's ceratain Death if hit the brain with 2700 foot pounds of energy. notice in this chart that a 9mm hand gun has 362 muzzle energy so this is the amount of energy a contact shot would give to the head and brain . note that many people have been killed with head shots from 10 meters etc. the bullet loses some velocity the farther it is . so that 362 enerfgy would be lower if fired at a distance . but still even less than 362 a 9mm gun is deadly . t' seems to be deadly most times if it's pointed at the brain and don't flinch before shot especiall pointed aimed at or close to the brain stem. but rifles have 10 times the energy as a handgun and seen i the chart :

What is your opinion on the lethality of a .300 Winchester Magnum shot aimed at the hard palate, considering the possibility of slight muzzle movement or recoil during the shot? Do you believe these factors could significantly impact the chances of survival?

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

What is your opinion on the lethality of a .300 Winchester Magnum shot aimed at the hard palate, considering the possibility of slight muzzle movement or recoil during the shot? Do you believe these factors could significantly impact the chances of survival?

there's almost no chance of survival if don't flinch before shot . and if deep in mouth a few inches whole head will explode imo

Relation of kinetic energy to contact wounds of the head by centerfire rifles and shotgun slugs - PubMed

Wounds of high-energy centerfire rifles and shotguns represent distinctive injuries of forensic importance. Previous studies of contact wounds have shown variability in the potential of these weapons to produce bursting wounds of the head. The present study analyzed contact head wounds owing to...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Wounds of high-energy centerfire rifles and shotguns represent distinctive injuries of forensic importance. Previous studies of contact wounds have shown variability in the potential of these weapons to produce bursting wounds of the head. The present study analyzed contact head wounds owing to 26 centerfire rifles and nine shotgun slugs and compared them with respect to weapon, ammunition, entry wound site, and projectile kinetic energy. The bursting effect, defined for this study as disruption of at least 50% of the head, occurred in 25/35 of cases and was related to kinetic energy. Bursting was associated with energies <2700 ft-lbs in 12/22 cases and energies >2700 ft-lbs in 13/13 cases. The volume of gunpowder gas injected into the wound was considered as contributing to the bursting phenomenon. There was no relation of bursting to the specific entrance wound site, type of ammunition, or projectile fragmentation.

It gives easy access to finding private sellers
And no, you can't gain permits
In most states you can just throw your shekels forth and get your weapon unless it is a pistol

Would the 20 gauge work? I need death like water
I also wonder if if taping the muzzle would help

yeah a 20 gauge would work imo. but a 12 gauge is even more reliable imo. a 12 gauge has more power.

tldnr: fastest 12 gauge shotgun slug 1760 fps 28 inch barrel = 2800 energy / power. 9mm hand gun = 362 power and 362 still deadly so imo contact shot with shotgun very unlikely to fail. a 9mm hand gun can kill from a distance but contact shots send all energy and liters of gasses into the brain as well as bullet. contact shots more deadly .

Things that affect the power / energy exploded into the brain are gauge and velocity of ammo. for example a 437 grain slug with a muzzle velocity of 1760 fps has more power than ammo weighing the same but going slower.

the longer barrel lengths especially increase velocity and so have more power exploded into the brain.

to increase reliability i would use a 12 gauge with a 1 once slug going 1760 fps . and use the longest barrel shotgun i can handle and put in mouth or to the side of the head aiming for brainstem.

in mouth a few inches is more reliable but side the head aiming for brain stem if don't flinch is practically certain imo.

in this video he tested the velocity of that 1760 fps 1 oz slug . but the barrel lenght was only 18 inches so the velocity was lower . i've seen another video a guy tested the same type of slug with longer and shorter barrels the 28 inch barrel was close to 1700 fps much faster than the 18 inch barrel . higher velocity increases the energy / power.

in this video he got 1621 fps with an 18 inch barrel and computed the energy at 2550. this will still probably explode the head and penetrate the head you hit even close to the back of the head or brain stem it's over. keep in mind that 2218 is orders of magnitude more power than a handgun . a 9mm gun can have 362 foot pounds of energy at the muzzle 2550 > 362 . but 362 can still kill even at a distance . the 28 inch barrel gets much more energy 2805 and will explode the head as the study showed above. the study showed that when kinetic energy > 2700 the head will burst completely . i downloaded the entire survey study and it's very good. i search on library genesis to download it. even a 9mm hand gun at 362 can kill from 10 meters away and the velocity has slowed a little and also if the handgun or shotgun is put against the head liters of gasses will follow the bullet inside the head imo not survivaval by either just the energy and gasses and bullet inside the brain especially if hit brain stem or close to brain stem.

 

[Eudaimonic]

just get a 9mm pistol, put it to the side of ur head use hollow tipo rounds and pull trigger while u scream and ur out 95% sure. dont overthink it. best of luck. after all, it is the best way to CTB

95% is too much, IMO, given the consequences of failure. It's also harder to failsafe than you might think - you can't guarantee how you will fall if you do it on the edge of a high structure or even in waist-deep water (though, imo, the latter is a safer bet, but you may still regain consciousness). Hollow points don't even always expand and flinching with/jerking a pistol is a lot easier than with a shotgun especially when properly braced against the ground. Just my 2c.

 

[lifeisbutadream]

How does Armslist work to circumvent background checks/waiting periods? No need to give me specific details of your life OP but are you just living in a state that has really loose gun laws?

Could someone that lives in a very restricted state get a firearm without a permit/license through Armslist?

No. The only way that could work was if you met the seller in person and he was willing to accept cash, but that would almost certainly be illegal in a "very restricted state" so he won't.

Of course if you had underworld contacts this would be irrelevant. Gun laws only target good honest people.

you wont lol not even a 9mm to the head its very very unlikely

use hollow points if u want to be 100% certain but a 9mm hollow tip will vanish you like houdini

Hollow points are much over-rated here. Like the person above said, they don't always expand, and very often they don't expand at all. Some are better than others.

 

[Temporary Breakway]

How does Armslist work to circumvent background checks/waiting periods? No need to give me specific details of your life OP but are you just living in a state that has really loose gun laws?

Could someone that lives in a very restricted state get a firearm without a permit/license through Armslist?

NC but unfortunately the fact that I've been committed bars me from buying legally

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

NC but unfortunately the fact that I've been committed bars me from buying legally

can't say what state i'm in . but last year i went to a gunshow and i asked the sellers who was selling no backtround check. and i found a seller at the show that was going to sell me a shotgun cash no id no background check just hand him the cash and he was going to give me the gun

 

[itriedinthislife2]

can't say what state i'm in . but last year i went to a gunshow and i asked the sellers who was selling no backtround check. and i found a seller at the show that was going to sell me a shotgun cash no id no background check just hand him the cash and he was going to give me the gun

its easy