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Berlin76

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https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/my-euthanesia-process-and-still-want-to-do-it-myself.27396/

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/my-euthanesia-part-2.29923/

Ok so I got approved in the next fase.
The last 2 weeks I had 2 interviews with a external psychiatrist that was needed in the process of mine euthanasia.

The first interview was long for 2 hours last week. She went through all my history and went deep on family dynamics. Even went in on wishes I had in life or what I still have for life also talked about work and relationships.

I went home with even more questions than i came in and was worried alot. Because alot was on practical things of life so i worried a lot the last week.

Yesterday I came in for the second interview and ask her if she was hearing me correctly because of al the questions.
She awnserd back it was my trauma that was playing games in my head by causing distrust. From this moment I let all my questions fall because I knew she heard me correctly and i felt relief.

She went on with more questions and also explained my psychological profile.
She did not find any autism or low Iq because this was mentioned in the past, she did find borderline element's and anti social tendencies and complex ptsd that all is causing depression.

So she agreed on my euthanasia because I don't have any options for therapy. Therapy is not a solution anymore because its done and can cause even more damage.

So her conclusion is green for euthanasia and she will report the euthanasia team on her findings. So from this point on it's just one more appointment with the team and one with the scen doctor who will check if everything went by protocol and then i am gone
 
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Wow. That's a lot to take in. I'm envious as hell that there are orderly, humane and supportive places that help people out. The grimy, clandestine, desperate and illicit nature of suicide methods available to me feel so very wrong. I wish any of the psychiatrist/ psychologists who I ever met with could give me such a clear assessment.

I hope you find peace soon.
 
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Wow. That's a lot to take in. I'm envious as hell that there are orderly, humane and supportive places that help people out. The grimy, clandestine, desperate and illicit nature of suicide methods available to me feel so very wrong. I wish any of the psychiatrist/ psychologists who I ever met with could give me such a clear assessment.

I hope you find peace soon.

Thank you very much
But suicide even here with euthanasia in place still has a stigma to it. Because death on own will is taboo because of fear that people have. Its getting better because people do understand but the underbelly fear still remains
 
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Thank you very much
But suicide even here with euthanasia in place still has a stigma to it. Because death on own will is taboo because of fear that people have. Its getting better because people do understand but the underbelly fear still remains
I'm so sorry for your pain. I really do wish you dignity and kindness in these days. Al my best to you.
 
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Wow! Thank you for sharing. Sounds like she listened and heard what you had to say.
 
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Wow! Thank you for sharing. Sounds like she listened and heard what you had to say.

Yeah that moment when i ask her if she is hearing me correctly she answered back with the reply this is your distrust that is fogging your mind, i felt so relieved. Because she showed me how my mind works and also she understood
 
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Berlin hey man im glad you get support by society on these kind of plans.
By your name i guessed your in Germany like me .. is it even legal here? I knew about Switzer and maybe Belgium and Netherlands but here? What are the costs of final euthanasia toghether with your doctor appointments? Its sad others are left with painful fearful paths mine would be long drop hanging its fearful but not painful i think
 
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Berlin76

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Berlin hey man im glad you get support by society on these kind of plans.
By your name i guessed your in Germany like me .. is it even legal here? I knew about Switzer and maybe Belgium and Netherlands but here? What are the costs of final euthanasia toghether with your doctor appointments? Its sad others are left with painful fearful paths mine would be long drop hanging its fearful but not painful i think

Hi thanks
But no i am dutch so its the Netherlands with The end of life clinic. And everything is covered by health insurance.
 
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SettOne1994

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Hi thanks
But no i am dutch so its the Netherlands with The end of life clinic. And everything is covered by health insurance.
Europe is nice....i wish you the best my friend you must be lucky... If you see the chances of being accepted are slim tell them i know all about human nature and political or religious systems etc im not delusional i am just helpess with panic attacks chronic anxiety of many years and i am not able to make human contact or work by any chance....shame and fear have destroyed me i just wish to continue. Tell them you dont have any murderous or angry emotions eithers...but as you sayed one more appointment i dont believe you will have any problems....i wish you the best anyway
how much time has passed since you first applied for this?
 
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Berlin76

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Europe is nice....i wish you the best my friend you must be lucky... If you see the chances of being accepted are slim tell them i know all about human nature and political or religious systems etc im not delusional i am just helpess with panic attacks chronic anxiety of many years and i am not able to make human contact or work by any chance....shame and fear have destroyed me i just wish to continue. Tell them you dont have any murderous or angry emotions eithers...but as you sayed one more appointment i dont believe you will have any problems....i wish you the best anyway
how much time has passed since you first applied for this?

I had applied in 2018 August the waitinglist was more then a year so had waited long. And the process started last November with the interviews. So the process it self is 8 months in total.

They are approving it so i am going exit with April
 
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I had applied in 2018 August the waitinglist was more then a year so had waited long. And the process started last November with the interviews. So the process it self is 8 months in total.

They are approving it so i am going exit with April
Congratulations Berlin 76. My fantasy is to die by Euthanasia,unfortunately, that wont happen.
 
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I had applied in 2018 August the waitinglist was more then a year so had waited long. And the process started last November with the interviews. So the process it self is 8 months in total.

They are approving it so i am going exit with April
I'm pleased you finally got your wish Berlin. It's been a difficult wait for you. You deserve your dignified exit.
 
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Wow. That's a lot to take in. I'm envious as hell that there are orderly, humane and supportive places that help people out. The grimy, clandestine, desperate and illicit nature of suicide methods available to me feel so very wrong. I wish any of the psychiatrist/ psychologists who I ever met with could give me such a clear assessment.

I hope you find peace soon.
What a well put and thoughtful response.
 
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Berlin76

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Congratulations Berlin 76. My fantasy is to die by Euthanasia,unfortunately, that wont happen.

Thank you
I'm pleased you finally got your wish Berlin. It's been a difficult wait for you. You deserve your dignified exit.
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Hey thank you.
Just waiting for the last 2 interviews now with the team and their scen doctor then its done
 
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wildmoon

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Wow. Congratulations Berlin. You have sifefred a great deal . Lots of love to you.
 
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Berlin76

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Thanks @wildmoon
I will make a new update / part soon because my euthanasia date is coming closer
 
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I'll miss you but I am happy for you because I know how much pain you are in. :heart:
 
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Berlin76

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I'll miss you but I am happy for you because I know how much pain you are in. :heart:

Yeah will miss you too.
I will keep you updated on the date it will be in the next 1.5 months from now
 
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This is excellent news , been a long wait and now you have the green light , so happy for you :hug:
 
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Yeah will miss you too.
I will keep you updated on the date it will be in the next 1.5 months from now
That's brill news for you .
Is it dignitas ? or life circle ?
I wish i could afford it too .
But good luck with it all :hug:
 
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Berlin76

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This is excellent news , been a long wait and now you have the green light , so happy for you :hug:

Thanks, It really was a relieve for me when I got the conclusion of the doctor.
It was hurtfull to see she knew how my head works because of trauma , but at the same time I was happy because she could see it clearly how it effects my life.
That's brill news for you .
Is it dignitas ? or life circle ?
I wish i could afford it too .
But good luck with it all :hug:

hi angie

no its not switserland its the clinic in the netherlands
Here it works different then switserland its covert by healthcare insurance

and thanks again
 
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Part 4 of my euthanasia will come this week or the next. It wil be about the last and final examination with the scent-doctor.
 
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Part 4 of my euthanasia will come this week or the next. It wil be about the last and final examination with the scent-doctor.

What is a scent-doctor ? He smells you to see if you really wanna die :)
 
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Berlin76

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What is a scent-doctor ? He smells you to see if you really wanna die :)

Yes precisamente hahahaha
It is scen doctor sorry
It's a doctor who operates independently without ever having contact with the euthanasia team.
He needs to check everything all protocol and see me and make sure everything checks out correctly also my mental state
 
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Berlin76

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Ok, so as I have told multiple people here that I will post updates about my euthanasia process.
So here is part 4 going in the last phase of my euthanasia process and life also .

Today I had my final examination by the scen-doctor at my home.
I did not liked this part at all, and she knew it already because everybody reacts the same to this it seems.
Exhausted and drained of the whole process, having to repeat yourself over and over again.

So she started by asking declaration of will, showed her the whole documentation.
She already had this in her possession but she needed to check it also but verify to see if it all is correct.
Also she was aware of mine suicide attempt last august with N of A.
So showed her the documentation of the attempt that i made for police, so they could see it was on me and only me who organized it.

Again in my younger years, asking questions about everything from school to friends family dynamics and lifespan in general.
And how this effected me in adulthood, had to explain that to her also.
Going trough everything in life that effected me like my traumas that caused complex ptsd, the paranoid disorder chronicle depression, A cluster characteristics.

At one moment she ask my mom to leave the room, this was because by law she needs to talk alone with me also for 30 minutes.
The process of the whole interview was also focused on if i really want this and if I really don't want any therapy anymore.
Why I don't want therapy anymore, why i want to die, do i really want to die, If i don't want to life anywhere else .
Do you really want to die, how do you want to die, are you sure you want to do it that way,
So you want to die, so you will cause grief and sadness to your mom and your family are you aware of this.
I answer back yes i know, but dying is for me the solution to get my rest and not having to feel this way for the rest of my life and having to deal with this the rest of my life.

She even ask if anybody forced me to apply to euthanasia, this is a security check and safety matter also.

Some moments i really was thinking like she did not believe me or something.
This is also her way of talking and trying to find inconsistency's in my story or that of the euthanasia team.
She just needed to check everything and make sure it was all correct and truthful.

We talked for almost 2 hours i just.
The final things she ask where are you ready did you do everything you need to do.
Told her i arranged my own funeral / cremation and also got the quotation of the funeral insurance company.
And at the end she ask , where will you perform the euthanasia, told her, I will do it in my room on my bed.

When she ended the interview she said, you know i was only for the check of protocol
I don't have any power over your date of euthanasia that's up to the team to decide, I will make a report of our interview and my findings.
but the team decided your euthanasia I am here just to check
I can only say no or yes on the whole process and the euthanasia as a security measure.

So this means she can say no when she found weird stuff in my story or some other judgement.
She added that it can take a couple of days not 2 week but days for making the report on my case.

So now have to wait, I have 2 green lights these where important , this one only can adjust to the team and making sure the team is safe to perform the euthanasia.
I will be gone before the end of the month, as i have requested.
 
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Ok, so as I have told multiple people here that I will post updates about my euthanasia process.
So here is part 4 going in the last phase of my euthanasia process and life also .

Today I had my final examination by the scen-doctor at my home.
I did not liked this part at all, and she knew it already because everybody reacts the same to this it seems.
Exhausted and drained of the whole process, having to repeat yourself over and over again.

So she started by asking declaration of will, showed her the whole documentation.
She already had this in her possession but she needed to check it also but verify to see if it all is correct.
Also she was aware of mine suicide attempt last august with N of A.
So showed her the documentation of the attempt that i made for police, so they could see it was on me and only me who organized it.

Again in my younger years, asking questions about everything from school to friends family dynamics and lifespan in general.
And how this effected me in adulthood, had to explain that to her also.
Going trough everything in life that effected me like my traumas that caused complex ptsd, the paranoid disorder chronicle depression, A cluster characteristics.

At one moment she ask my mom to leave the room, this was because by law she needs to talk alone with me also for 30 minutes.
The process of the whole interview was also focused on if i really want this and if I really don't want any therapy anymore.
Why I don't want therapy anymore, why i want to die, do i really want to die, If i don't want to life anywhere else .
Do you really want to die, how do you want to die, are you sure you want to do it that way,
So you want to die, so you will cause grief and sadness to your mom and your family are you aware of this.
I answer back yes i know, but dying is for me the solution to get my rest and not having to feel this way for the rest of my life and having to deal with this the rest of my life.

She even ask if anybody forced me to apply to euthanasia, this is a security check and safety matter also.

Some moments i really was thinking like she did not believe me or something.
This is also her way of talking and trying to find inconsistency's in my story or that of the euthanasia team.
She just needed to check everything and make sure it was all correct and truthful.

We talked for almost 2 hours i just.
The final things she ask where are you ready did you do everything you need to do.
Told her i arranged my own funeral / cremation and also got the quotation of the funeral insurance company.
And at the end she ask , where will you perform the euthanasia, told her, I will do it in my room on my bed.

When she ended the interview she said, you know i was only for the check of protocol
I don't have any power over your date of euthanasia that's up to the team to decide, I will make a report of our interview and my findings.
but the team decided your euthanasia I am here just to check
I can only say no or yes on the whole process and the euthanasia as a security measure.

So this means she can say no when she found weird stuff in my story or some other judgement.
She added that it can take a couple of days not 2 week but days for making the report on my case.

So now have to wait, I have 2 green lights these where important , this one only can adjust to the team and making sure the team is safe to perform the euthanasia.
I will be gone before the end of the month, as i have requested.
I so appreciate you documenting this. Is it difficult for you doing this? Causing you any anxiety?
 
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Ok, so as I have told multiple people here that I will post updates about my euthanasia process.
So here is part 4 going in the last phase of my euthanasia process and life also .

Today I had my final examination by the scen-doctor at my home.
I did not liked this part at all, and she knew it already because everybody reacts the same to this it seems.
Exhausted and drained of the whole process, having to repeat yourself over and over again.

So she started by asking declaration of will, showed her the whole documentation.
She already had this in her possession but she needed to check it also but verify to see if it all is correct.
Also she was aware of mine suicide attempt last august with N of A.
So showed her the documentation of the attempt that i made for police, so they could see it was on me and only me who organized it.

Again in my younger years, asking questions about everything from school to friends family dynamics and lifespan in general.
And how this effected me in adulthood, had to explain that to her also.
Going trough everything in life that effected me like my traumas that caused complex ptsd, the paranoid disorder chronicle depression, A cluster characteristics.

At one moment she ask my mom to leave the room, this was because by law she needs to talk alone with me also for 30 minutes.
The process of the whole interview was also focused on if i really want this and if I really don't want any therapy anymore.
Why I don't want therapy anymore, why i want to die, do i really want to die, If i don't want to life anywhere else .
Do you really want to die, how do you want to die, are you sure you want to do it that way,
So you want to die, so you will cause grief and sadness to your mom and your family are you aware of this.
I answer back yes i know, but dying is for me the solution to get my rest and not having to feel this way for the rest of my life and having to deal with this the rest of my life.

She even ask if anybody forced me to apply to euthanasia, this is a security check and safety matter also.

Some moments i really was thinking like she did not believe me or something.
This is also her way of talking and trying to find inconsistency's in my story or that of the euthanasia team.
She just needed to check everything and make sure it was all correct and truthful.

We talked for almost 2 hours i just.
The final things she ask where are you ready did you do everything you need to do.
Told her i arranged my own funeral / cremation and also got the quotation of the funeral insurance company.
And at the end she ask , where will you perform the euthanasia, told her, I will do it in my room on my bed.

When she ended the interview she said, you know i was only for the check of protocol
I don't have any power over your date of euthanasia that's up to the team to decide, I will make a report of our interview and my findings.
but the team decided your euthanasia I am here just to check
I can only say no or yes on the whole process and the euthanasia as a security measure.

So this means she can say no when she found weird stuff in my story or some other judgement.
She added that it can take a couple of days not 2 week but days for making the report on my case.

So now have to wait, I have 2 green lights these where important , this one only can adjust to the team and making sure the team is safe to perform the euthanasia.
I will be gone before the end of the month, as i have requested.
It's a very lengthy process for you . but i'm sure you will get the outcome you wish for .
Im trying to raise money for it as it's not allowed in uk . I am terminally ill so hopefully my process won't be so lengthy .
Just think this is your last step and you have down it all now .stressfull but it's done now .
 
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Berlin76

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It's a very lengthy process for you . but i'm sure you will get the outcome you wish for .
Im trying to raise money for it as it's not allowed in uk . I am terminally ill so hopefully my process won't be so lengthy .
Just think this is your last step and you have down it all now .stressfull but it's done now .

You can apply in holland as wel for euthanasia. Did you know that?
 
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