Kjo

Kjo

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Jun 7, 2019
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I'm not sure how weird this sounds... But I've been depressed for so long and finally told everyone in my life, therapists included, that I'm too tired to keep going. They're all aware. No, they didn't lock me up. They all see the cuts and self harm scars, new and old. . .

Now every day I survive another day, I feel like I'm the girl that cried wolf, so to speak.


Anybody else have this feeling? I feel like I should get it over and done with ASAP to make the "I'm too tired" conversation seem more credible, however stupid that sounds...
 
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Bulletwbttrflywings

Bulletwbttrflywings

My soul is awakened... and I’m f*cked
May 29, 2019
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I'm not sure how weird this sounds... But I've been depressed for so long and finally told everyone in my life, therapists included, that I'm too tired to keep going. They're all aware. No, they didn't lock me up. They all see the cuts and self harm scars, new and old. . .

Now every day I survive another day, I feel like I'm the girl that cried wolf, so to speak.


Anybody else have this feeling? I feel like I should get it over and done with ASAP to make the "I'm too tired" conversation seem more credible, however stupid that sounds...
Can't even tell you how much I can relate... since I'm 37, have kids, have my own business and seem like I have my life "together," there are times when I do feel like I shut up to prevent being labeled as such, because I have been called that before.

You're in a safe space. We all are in the same head space and can relate. You are accepted for who you are... hugs!
 
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Kjo

Kjo

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Thank you so much
 
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mathieu

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Jun 5, 2019
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There have been so many times when I told my healthcare providers or family I want to die. Sometimes you just want to be honest. It is kind of good now because I can say that, having a sure plan to ctb, and they will think it's like all the other times I've said it and do nothing to try to stop me. So I can kind of say goodbye without causing too much alarm.
 
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Kjo

Kjo

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Jun 7, 2019
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There have been so many times when I told my healthcare providers or family I want to die. Sometimes you just want to be honest. It is kind of good now because I can say that, having a sure plan to ctb, and they will think it's like all the other times I've said it and do nothing to try to stop me. So I can kind of say goodbye without causing too much alarm.
I get that so much. I sure as hell hope nobody says, "I never expected this," after I pass. I made it clear as day the regular daily struggle of this feeling.
 
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WaterUnder

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Apr 27, 2019
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Don't feel guilty for reaching out or for continuing to live. I get it, it's a credibility thing. But you don't need to end your life to prove you were sincere. Sincerely live your life and show others of us how good living is.

Proud of you.
 
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lululoo

lululoo

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Dec 15, 2018
558
Yes I relate. I haven't talked about suicide all the time but have mentioned it sometimes. I have to assume at this point that the people I've been open with just assume I'm a coward who wants attention or something. Cause no one has ever acted concerned. Not even now that my health is worse than ever and I am jobless. I don't talk about it anymore even though sometimes I want to. Because I don't want that pressure on me to do it in order to prove myself. And I also know it will be painful to yet again find out that people don't care enough to actually do anything. They will only care once I am dead.... this also helps me feel less guilty about leaving.
 
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Kjo

Kjo

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Jun 7, 2019
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Yes I relate. I haven't talked about suicide all the time but have mentioned it sometimes. I have to assume at this point that the people I've been open with just assume I'm a coward who wants attention or something. Cause no one has ever acted concerned. Not even now that my health is worse than ever and I am jobless. I don't talk about it anymore even though sometimes I want to. Because I don't want that pressure on me to do it in order to prove myself. And I also know it will be painful to yet again find out that people don't care enough to actually do anything. They will only care once I am dead.... this also helps me feel less guilty about leaving.
This is so incredibly relatable.
 
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LongTimeComing

LongTimeComing

I'm a saint, got a date with suicide
May 23, 2019
58
Because of my past of dark humor, I'm not taken seriously about my present state. I tell them I almost died in the hospital, I still want to die, I'm contemplating trying heroin and eventually ODing on it, and that I won't be here much longer; They don't believe I'm serious... they laugh. I feel embarrassed and go along with pretending I'm okay. People have been calling me brave and strong because they don't listen when I express my pain and try to make them understand I'm destined to die soon. As spiteful as it sounds, I'll be glad to be gone and make them regret ignoring my pleas.
 
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appalachian moon

appalachian moon

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May 13, 2019
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I'll be glad to be gone and make them regret ignoring my pleas.
That's the same thought I have. The people in your life fail to realise you're deteriorating right in front of their eyes, but they never really take you seriously even if you clearly tell them you're struggling. And then they wonder why you don't confide in them anymore.
 
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Ruffian

Ruffian

Jumpin Jack Flash, it’s a gas gas gas
Jan 16, 2019
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I'm not sure how weird this sounds... But I've been depressed for so long and finally told everyone in my life, therapists included, that I'm too tired to keep going. They're all aware. No, they didn't lock me up. They all see the cuts and self harm scars, new and old. . .

Now every day I survive another day, I feel like I'm the girl that cried wolf, so to speak.


Anybody else have this feeling? I feel like I should get it over and done with ASAP to make the "I'm too tired" conversation seem more credible, however stupid that sounds...
No, you absolutely don't sound weird or stupid in the least. And this is a pro-choice forum, so I'm not here to talk you in off of a ledge where a good bit of us were failed by the mental health system. You even have actual, physical signs that scream what is un-screamable in any human language, in the form of cutting. I'm not going to give you a label over an Internet forum, but what you've described sounds very familiar, and it is one of my reasons for being here, BPD (Borderline Personality Disorder,) which is not the same as Bipolar Disorder. I see the two mixed up all the time, and they are not the same thing. I have both, and they do share very similar features. BPD is not treatable with medication, but certain medications can make the symptoms easier to tolerate. You don't need to show every symptom to get diagnosed with one or the other, or even both. I also have PTSD, although I am not a war veteran. I was just exposed to too much trauma at a young age. The BPD has had the most devastating effect on my life and was the root cause of all of my suicide attempts. It's difficult to treat, and ironically, one of the most expensive. Some sick cosmic joke, I guess. Here's an expensive solution for the people who are the least likely to be able to maintain a steady job. And then to make it really funny....we'll be sure to classify it under the subcategory of the Diagnostic Manual for Mental Disorders that makes it impossible to be considered as having any kind of medical origin, therefore the person will automatically not qualify for disability benefits. (It's Axis II - the personality disorders - if you understand this I'm sorry because it means you've been through a special kind of hell to have figured all that out.) I'm in the US - I know many other countries are light years ahead of us in terms of humanity and healthcare, but I've been brainwashed since birth to believe the U.S. knows everything about, well, everything.

One of the last times I got desperate enough to actually call a suicide hotline, the lady started in on with the whole, have you tried...........? To which I screamed back at her do you know how much that shit costs? So she suggests I buy the workbooks on eBay and start doing the work myself. At that point I asked her if people with difficult to treat cancers are going to have to start watching YouTube videos on how to operate on themselves and hung up. (I may have told her to go fuck herself first.) Because I am SICK OF DOING THE WORK MYSELF. I have gone to too many self-help groups to count, done inpatient, I've been in studies, I've tried every medication under the sun, but I draw the line at high dose ant-psychotics, I was even willing to try the first ever anti-depressants long after Prozac and all the bullshit that followed, but only because that was the last doctor I ever truly trusted. And he truly wanted to help - believe me, no doctors are getting kick-backs from Big Pharma for pushing those drugs. Luckily, we found something safer.

My story continues, but I realize I have a really bad habit of rambling on and on on this site. I am 51, and I was a writer when I was younger. I was expected to write lot of content back then, so it's hard to break out of that. But I don't want to waste anyone's time either.

So I'll say one last thing - it was the BOY who cried wolf, remember? (This isn't a 3rd wave feminist rant, I promise.) Because back when that story was originally told it was by firelight and candlelight that weren't for ambiance, it was because people needed them or froze to death. Or they got sick of constantly stubbing their toe on the way to the outhouse. Child labor laws hadn't even been dreamt up, so parents needed a way to make sure the boys stayed awake during their shift to watch the sheep.

You aren't crying wolf, you're crying in pain. Real pain that anyone with a beating heart and a conscience could comprehend. It doesn't take a quack who couldn't pass an advanced chemistry or physics class so he decided to settle on psychology to figure out. In my book, the best therapists don't need to be M.D.s or Ph.Ds, some of the best are Licensed Social Workers. Why? Because they care more about people than about school.

I know I just broke my own rule and rambled. But I've been in therapy forever, and I was seriously abused by one and almost killed by medication twice. So I know a lot about what NOT to look for. But the least of your problems in your question is YOU. At least not at this point. People who self-harm are treated like drug-abusers. (Which I am sometimes) We get looked down upon like we're the lowest of the low, even by the people who are supposed to be helping us. So I feel like I say this to everyone, but I do really mean it, if you have questions or want to talk more, don't be afraid to PM me. Yes, at some point we have to take responsibility for ourselves. But not until we get some genuine compassion from another human being that someone wouldn't think twice about throwing a dog's way.
 
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been_there

been_there

Life cares only for itself.
Jun 5, 2019
297
You're welcome here. We know its not "cried wolf", its a real feeling. Maybe the strongest feeling possible. The people around you should acknowledge that. You should not feel bad or pressured for reaching out or telling others how you feel. Cutting can be helpful if it gives you self control, but if you're doing it for others, don't bother.

Most people aren't able to understand or help with such strong feelings. Many will just avoid the situation. Therapists, social workers should understand, but many don't get it. Some have normalised it by experience so don't do more than tick boxes according to their own rules. Forget them and their expectations, think about what you want. If there's anything that helps you. Living or dying is your choice and yours alone.

Ctb to prove your pain to others is a waste of yourself.
 
AtomicNewt

AtomicNewt

A girl doesn't need anyone who doesn't need her
Jun 5, 2019
145
Yes I relate. I haven't talked about suicide all the time but have mentioned it sometimes. I have to assume at this point that the people I've been open with just assume I'm a coward who wants attention or something. Cause no one has ever acted concerned. Not even now that my health is worse than ever and I am jobless. I don't talk about it anymore even though sometimes I want to. Because I don't want that pressure on me to do it in order to prove myself. And I also know it will be painful to yet again find out that people don't care enough to actually do anything. They will only care once I am dead.... this also helps me feel less guilty about leaving.
Indeed. I've been suffering on and off for nearly fifteen years and my life is now unbearable. However way back when I did try to explain to people how I felt they would get angry, like I'm just being silly and attention seeking, not really feeling horrendous (that's actually quite offensive isn't it? Implying you're too daft to know what you're feeling?!). Seemed to push people further away so don't bother anymore. Nowdays I have hardly anyone left anyway, over last five years shut myself away and no one seems particularly bothered. Hope the people that weren't around me and haven't seen me for all this time don't bang on about what a shame it is if I cbt but guess that's just one of those things. Gave up talking to healthcare professionals 12yrs ago when I was constantly feeling suicidal, not eating and self-harming and my then partner called a crisis team on me. They just said as I hadn't actually acted on those thoughts I was actually ok. I mean wtf, surely everyone that cbt has been at the stage of thinking about it. Makes you feel like you're being ridiculous and wasting people's time, which is great when you have low self esteem.

There is one exception, a friend I have told that I feel in too much pain and intend to try ctb this month. He hasn't called anyone, or threatened anything, told me it will get better or got angry... but the huge difference is he's been very unwell in his past with depression and suicidal thoughts, I've Never* had anyone I've been able to talk to like that before and if I do cbt I will leave him and email and hopefully he can be there to cut through any bollocks people might say about trying to help/not knowing. That gives me some satisfaction.

* Never apart from this place, this place is awesome, for the first time I've not felt stupid and alone for feeling these things ♥
 
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Extremly kind <3

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Jun 8, 2019
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I am fucken extremly tired, whenever I wake up the torture starts, it is really unfair that we do not have access to peaceful, instant methods of sucide, I am so damn tired I hope someone helps here...?
 
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whyidon'tknow

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Jun 9, 2019
356
I get really worried about telling my friends in family because i'm so good at hiding the pain inside.

I impulsively tell myself outloud to kill myself. I have compulsive suicidal ideation that consumes my thoughts for weeks at a time. I've written probably 20-30 suicide notes. Tried to kill myself 15+ times.

But i'm good at hiding it. I can put on a passable social mask. Idk how I would even tell my friends. I'm the big joker. Don't think they've ever seen me cry or open up really
 
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temp1234

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Jun 12, 2019
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I relate to this so hard. I had a failed attempt and now feel like if I don't go through, my family will think less of me. Maybe it's cause I'm pretty prideful and feel like I have to prove what I set out to do. Idk. But I'm glad I found out I'm not the only one who feels this way. I think its also because I have so many suicide ideations that I feel the need to do something. Might also be because I always felt like I've given up on so many things and feel like a failure and maybe suicide will finally be something I actually succeed in. Honestly its probably a mix of all of those. But I definitely feel like I'm crying wolf.
 
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not_a_robot

not_a_robot

"i hope the leaving is joyful, & never to return"
May 30, 2019
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I'm not sure how weird this sounds... But I've been depressed for so long and finally told everyone in my life, therapists included, that I'm too tired to keep going. They're all aware. No, they didn't lock me up. They all see the cuts and self harm scars, new and old. . .

Now every day I survive another day, I feel like I'm the girl that cried wolf, so to speak.


Anybody else have this feeling? I feel like I should get it over and done with ASAP to make the "I'm too tired" conversation seem more credible, however stupid that sounds...
nah, fuck those people. You don't live your life for them and you're not dying your death for them. Do it on your time and don't let anything rush you.

If anything, cultivating a perception of "crying wolf" among people around you is good; if they think you're someone who just "cries wolf", they will not intervene when you are ready to go, they will tell themselves you aren't serious.
I get really worried about telling my friends in family because i'm so good at hiding the pain inside.

I impulsively tell myself outloud to kill myself. I have compulsive suicidal ideation that consumes my thoughts for weeks at a time. I've written probably 20-30 suicide notes. Tried to kill myself 15+ times.

But i'm good at hiding it. I can put on a passable social mask. Idk how I would even tell my friends. I'm the big joker. Don't think they've ever seen me cry or open up really
How sad to have friends. So.many people on this site are alone and long for friends, but in the end, friends are just people you can't tell how you really feel. They might as well be strangers.
 
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Soul

gate gate paragate parasamgate bodhi svaha
Apr 12, 2019
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Where I live there's a widespread pop-psychology idea that as long as someone is talking about suicide there's nothing to worry about; it's when we stop talking about it that there's a real chance we'll off ourselves. This is BS but it's something people think they know about suicide. For some of you whose people don't seem to believe you, maybe this myth is part of the reason?

In any case, please don't let other people's expectations put unwelcome pressure on you. If it helps you somehow to take their reactions on board, then do. But your life is the one at stake here so what you feel is all that counts.

 
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ladolcemorte

ladolcemorte

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May 5, 2019
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I'm not sure how weird this sounds... But I've been depressed for so long and finally told everyone in my life, therapists included, that I'm too tired to keep going. They're all aware. No, they didn't lock me up. They all see the cuts and self harm scars, new and old. . .

Now every day I survive another day, I feel like I'm the girl that cried wolf, so to speak.


Anybody else have this feeling? I feel like I should get it over and done with ASAP to make the "I'm too tired" conversation seem more credible, however stupid that sounds...


Yup, I feel like that too.Like I want to ctb just so that the people who thought I was crying wolf will know that I wasn't. You are not alone in feeling like this.

Having said this, I don't believe that is a good reason to ctb. But I can definitely relate
 
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LegaliseIt!

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Nov 29, 2019
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I am fucken extremly tired, whenever I wake up the torture starts, it is really unfair that we do not have access to peaceful, instant methods of sucide, I am so damn tired I hope someone helps here...?
Psychological pain is equal to physical pain. Mental illness can be terminal.
Just my opinion.
I am exasperated that a person can endure 49 years of psychological pain, and be told to "think positive thoughts" to treat it.
I hope that MAID becomes legal for mentally ill people.
We are ill. There is no treatment or cure.
Let us leave with dignity.
 
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