Mental disorders and the "lack" of god

[Deleted member 17331]

Today I was having a discussion about the pain caused by my panic attacks, with a family member.

He told me that I should seek psychiatric help, and when I informed him about the scarcity of mental health, and as no medicine or therapy has helped me so far he was irritated, and said briefly:

"All of this is lack of God, you should look for a church."

I was annoyed, but not surprised.

How would looking for a church reduce my symptoms? How would the church supply my need for psychiatric drugs (I have been using psychiatric drugs since my childhood, which made my body unbalanced without them)? How to sit with your head down listening to an idiot saying that all the problems in life are because I was simply born a sinner?

This can only be crazy. In fact, socially acceptable madness.

Honestly, the SS is the only thing that keeps me sane in this world.

 

[not-2-b-the-answer]

That "Lack Of God" SHIT just pisses me off.

 

[Deleted member 17331]

That "Lack Of God" SHIT just pisses me off.

I understand, I hear it every day and I am not used to it, my country is completely religious and many people are ignorant... I am tired.

 

[Kumachan]

socially acceptable madness.

Exactly. Society is infact mentally ill. Just look around.

 

[Broken Chimera]

The church is the cause of a lot of mental illness. The church has done more damage to millions than almost anything else. Just a group of brainwashed people trying to threaten people on the edge to make more brainwashed people. When has "God" helped anyone besides putting money in the pastors pocket?

This can only be crazy. In fact, socially acceptable madness.

At least you can see through it. A lot of people can't.

 

[HelensNepenthe]

Religious folk who anthromorphize God into situations (seemingly too common with psychology) have a tendency to cause humiliation than actually help the person out. This was one of the small stepping stones in my early adolescents that I decided to step away from Christianity. Having family members shun me or blame me for the problems that I had because I didn't believe in God wasn't healthy.

 

[GoneGoneGone]

Oh how many times I've heard this crap... And the idiotic thing is that I'm actually quite religious, but then I get accused of being 'fake' religious since I'm not spared of the panic attacks etc.
I bet the person who told you that has many dark sins...
And yes, let us put our faith in religion... not like priests are obsessed with getting money for anything like in Eastern Europe... and not like priests like them altar boys...

 

[Varstraben]

Sorry if someone live only using religion, but religous answer are used by people who don't want to think for themselves or have no more answers to give.
Don't take this like an answer, but out of curiosity I read the satanic bible, I found much answer of the what is the humain mind and how to see the world, much better that when I read the religious bible.

I got some of panic attack when I was child, my parents say that I just doing that for not going to school. Teacher said I done that only to go to the infirmary to sleep, therapist said I do that only because I trust in a inreal past and my brain don't work as it should (without giving any solution ...), now I'm using alcohol to relax and don't have panic attack and sleep much better, with some antipsychotics ...

I also tried drugs when I was a teen, not the best idea, panic stop, but being paranoid and hear voices and strange sound at night not help at all.

I don't have the response that you looking for, maybe meditation and self hypnose, I done it some time when I'm in the point to give up anything, it's help. Don't fall into alcohol, in my case it's help but it cause a lot of psychic problems (without considering intestinal problems).

Well brain is a complicated mechanism that hard to be helped, nobody can know what you are thinking and how, and everyone have to live with his own madness.

Isn't everyone a little crazy somewhere ?

The interpretation is probably only due to our society...

 

[Arrow]

That "Lack Of God" SHIT just pisses me off.

yeah same

 

[MeriDeath]

I guess some people find shelter in the imaginary guy who resides in the sky. That's just a coping mechanism. Whenever they feel sad lonely or likely to have sinned they turn to God to find shelter in him. Some people have really strong faith in God and think it might help them to be more mentally or physically stable. But you kneeling at church while praying a god you don't even know won't really cure your disease and give you what you need, as you say. Some people believe it might make you stronger and that's why they ask you to do the same. Trust me, you need to put a lot of effort into it if you want to become a firm believer but I guess for people like us it's really irrelevant. But that's just how it is, it's just another "thing", just another miserable concept. if you wanna cure yourself be your own God and if you wanna CTB you do it, you don't need it's permission. Overall it's a nice feeling if you are able to have faith in religion or something of that sort to be the rock in your life but the drugs you're consuming, right, he won't just hand them over to you. you may as well just continue suffering unfortunately. Believe in yourself instead. Find your own God. Work things out by yourself. That's how it should be done.

 

[not-2-b-the-answer]

I understand, I hear it every day and I am not used to it, my country is completely religious and many people are ignorant... I am tired.

We are controlled by the religious freaks in the U.S. as well. I don't care if they want to believe in that but I don't want it forced on me. I used to be religious but I never tried to force people into believing it. I will NOT give money to a church to have them turn around and use it against others. They should be focused on helping the poor. I know some are but when they get into politics that is when I have a problem.

 

[TheRaul95]

 

[Deleted member 94]

Today I was having a discussion about the pain caused by my panic attacks, with a family member.

He told me that I should seek psychiatric help, and when I informed him about the scarcity of mental health, and as no medicine or therapy has helped me so far he was irritated, and said briefly:

"All of this is lack of God, you should look for a church."

I was annoyed, but not surprised.

How would looking for a church reduce my symptoms? How would the church supply my need for psychiatric drugs (I have been using psychiatric drugs since my childhood, which made my body unbalanced without them)? How to sit with your head down listening to an idiot saying that all the problems in life are because I was simply born a sinner?

This can only be crazy. In fact, socially acceptable madness.

Honestly, the SS is the only thing that keeps me sane in this world.

Hi


I used to suffer from panic attacks in college my counselor told me when you are in the grips of it it's a result of your breathing the body hasn't been expelling all of the co2 when you exhaled and it has accumulated.


He advised that next time I feel it coming on compose yourself from the fight or flight situation with breathing properly and exhaling properly. It did work.


My nurse once told me that most adults don't breath properly per se. She said you should breath from your stomach like you did as children and not from your chest. Apparently that's what meditation gurus also say to help you relax.


You can give this a try I also heard this from self hypnosis video on craving for cigarette this is when you are in the grips of lighting up he advised regain composure by breathing in and out fully and clench your fist firmly. It did work.

 

[wagwoo]

Only religious people are allowed to be publicly insane and it be socially accepted. I'm crazy because my mind works against me, but a church go-er is perfectly sane when speaking to air.

 

[FranCanSee]

Most of the Christians I met, wanted to possessively impose their religions on me. As if it would save me, it scares me...

 

[Maravillosa]

As many of you already know, I am a Christian (a practicing Catholic who is active in my parish) and yet I suspect I will probably ctb one day (after my mother is dead and I have successfully published at least one novel). My faith gives me both comfort and challenge, but it does not change the fact that I have double depression (dysthymia/persistent depressive disorder with an overlay of major depression) and PTSD. I hope and pray God would be merciful to me if/when I ctb.

 

[lovehate22]

When you understand that there is a greater influence on existance , things will open up. Whether it's the acknowledgement of the weather .. photosynthesis .. even hair growth . Everything is doing something .. even stagnant matter. As somebody pointed out .Start trying new stuff .. you might be inhibiting yourself . Everybody goes through this phases .. Realise , many didn't make it beyond birth ..

You arrive first to the egg . You wanted to be here even though you may have lost the sentiment over the years of human conditioning .

You might just be introverted .. which means you probably have more time to work on something than the average socialite . No shame in that .. put your time to a useful purpose.

Try things til you find what you're interested in .. then follow it up , study it , enjoy it.

 

[Meowkin]

Today I was having a discussion about the pain caused by my panic attacks, with a family member.

He told me that I should seek psychiatric help, and when I informed him about the scarcity of mental health, and as no medicine or therapy has helped me so far he was irritated, and said briefly:

"All of this is lack of God, you should look for a church."

I was annoyed, but not surprised.

How would looking for a church reduce my symptoms? How would the church supply my need for psychiatric drugs (I have been using psychiatric drugs since my childhood, which made my body unbalanced without them)? How to sit with your head down listening to an idiot saying that all the problems in life are because I was simply born a sinner?

This can only be crazy. In fact, socially acceptable madness.

Honestly, the SS is the only thing that keeps me sane in this world.

I'm sorry. I've had my share of "helpful" admonishings directing me towards the nearest religious establishment. It really doesn't help it.

 

[Deleted member 17331]

When you understand that there is a greater influence on existance , things will open up. Whether it's the acknowledgement of the weather .. photosynthesis .. even hair growth . Everything is doing something .. even stagnant matter. As somebody pointed out .Start trying new stuff .. you might be inhibiting yourself . Everybody goes through this phases .. Realise , many didn't make it beyond birth ..

You arrive first to the egg . You wanted to be here even though you may have lost the sentiment over the years of human conditioning .

You might just be introverted .. which means you probably have more time to work on something than the average socialite . No shame in that .. put your time to a useful purpose.

Try things til you find what you're interested in .. then follow it up , study it , enjoy it.

I apologize, but is this a joke?

 

[lovehate22]

I'm sorry. I've had my share of "helpful" admonishings directing me towards the nearest religious establishment. It really doesn't help it.

i feel you..

 

[Close_to_freedom]

I only recently got over my fear of Hell from growing up religious.

 

[SpottedPanda]

It appears to me that people who aren't really educated on mental health issues, and who haven't had too hard a life, and who are indoctrinated by the church, are taught that all things wrong are due to a lack of God. I don't know if it's necessarily their fault, or can be blamed for believing this. I think it's coming from a place of being ill informed than anything else

 

[Deleted member 1465]

If someone said that to me I do believe I'd be speechless. I'd probably just walk away from them in dismay.

 

[sighingspider]

Today I was having a discussion about the pain caused by my panic attacks, with a family member.

He told me that I should seek psychiatric help, and when I informed him about the scarcity of mental health, and as no medicine or therapy has helped me so far he was irritated, and said briefly:

"All of this is lack of God, you should look for a church."

I was annoyed, but not surprised.

How would looking for a church reduce my symptoms? How would the church supply my need for psychiatric drugs (I have been using psychiatric drugs since my childhood, which made my body unbalanced without them)? How to sit with your head down listening to an idiot saying that all the problems in life are because I was simply born a sinner?

This can only be crazy. In fact, socially acceptable madness.

Honestly, the SS is the only thing that keeps me sane in this world.

I am not Christian, so I don't fully agree with what your family member says. But as a person that believes in a religion, I think what he meant is the church is a place here you can ask God for forgiveness, or even "blame" God for your problems. Blame is a harsh word, but for centuries, the humankind has relied on religion to explain stuff that we do not understand. In Japan, they believe that when there is an Earthquake, it is because there is a cat rumbling.(?) I can't remember.
The Black death was considered God's wrath against the sinners on Earth. That's why so many people died. Of course, as science starts to affect the way of our thinking, people believing in religions starts to disappear. While some becomes radicals.
For me religion is not a textbook based study, instead it is a way to communicate with someone that may or may not be there. It is also a way for me to reassure myself that anything that happens, happens for a reason. When I go to my place of worship, I feel that nothing really bothers me anymore. I don't need to ask any questions on my life because I simply forget about questions. Questions and religions don't really go together. I don't care what people look or think of me. I think that is why he said that you should go for a church. Because for some, a place of worship is not because of the religion, but a place to forget.

 

[Disintegration]

I have found energy healing and shamanism very helpful when dealing with mental illness. Entity extraction, spiritual depossession, soul retrieval, guided meditation and chakra therapy are some of the modalities that have helped. Please don't entirely dismiss spirituality as a means to feeling better. Organized religions are too dogmatic and screwed up to work for a lot of people. A lot of this sort of stuff is most likely a placebo of sorts, you believe it works and therefore it does, doesn't mean it can't help. If you have to trick the mind to feel better then so be it. Seriously... give some of the silly YouTube recordings a try, they might just make you feel better. I would suggest searching entity removal videos to see what pops up. I have multiple psychiatric diagnoses and feel like shit a lot, this is the only thing that can pull me out of it.