Lra888

Lra888

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Sep 30, 2018
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At a certain point antidepressants are useless. Doctors don't understand that if a person's life is in ruins a drug cannot magically cause them to accept that. Mind altering addictive chemicals will certainly make things worse.

A person who has a foundation of a decent life, financial security, comfortable circumstances and supportive people can maybe benefit from these meds—but for those without decency in life drugging them into acceptance is destructive and creating a good life from nothing is unrealistic. I believe this is part of that fucked up "American Dream" nonsense where people in bad circumstances are simply not trying hard enough.

Venting because I've had horrible reactions to medication and doctors keep pushing different meds/increased doses on me and I'm tired of it. My life situation is awful and I know these meds won't cause me to somehow accept my fucked up situation. Sitting alone in my room taking SSRI & benzos is not a solution.
 
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Bex83

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I hate them! I've come off mine secretly, still get my prescriptions but don't take them. Nobody knows. Still depressed but I can hide it better now I have actual emotions. I can pretend to be happy
 
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Jodes

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I know these meds won't cause me to somehow accept my fucked up situation. Sitting alone in my room taking SSRI & benzos is not a solution.
What do they know
 
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Lra888

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Sep 30, 2018
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I hate them! I've come off mine secretly, still get my prescriptions but don't take them. Nobody knows. Still depressed but I can hide it better now I have actual emotions. I can pretend to be happy
Medication makes me unable to cry which I don't see as an improvement. Feels worse because everything builds up and depression/anxiety is still there.
 
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Bex83

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Medication makes me unable to cry which I don't see as an improvement. Feels worse because everything builds up and depression/anxiety is still there.
I definitely agree with you, so numb all the time. And they don't change your circumstances. Which why most people kill themselfs in the first place.
 
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samsays89

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Oct 4, 2018
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As an American working for a subsidiary of a large company I can say you are 100% correct. My own brother has problems paying for his insulin and the companies don't care. If it weren't for my aunt and mom helping him he'd be dead.

As for reactions and withdrawal, I can only wish you the best. I went through Risperdal withdrawal and that was horrific. That was just one med. Anyone going through more than one must have horrible time.

*hugs*

Theres may be a chance it can get better and if it doesn't you can ways ctb.

Hope the best for you.
 
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Lra888

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Sep 30, 2018
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As an American working for a subsidiary of a large company I can say you are 100% correct. My own brother has problems paying for his insulin and the companies don't care. If it weren't for my aunt and mom helping him he'd be dead.

As for reactions and withdrawal, I can only wish you the best. I went through Risperdal withdrawal and that was horrific. That was just one med. Anyone going through more than one must have horrible time.

*hugs*

Theres may be a chance it can get better and if it doesn't you can ways ctb.

Hope the best for you.
Thank you.

Hugs.
 
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Jodes

Jodes

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Nov 23, 2018
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Can you get onto pregabalin? I think it could help you not care, safer etc than benzos, should help withdrawal too I think

I regret you're suffering, and that feel so stuck and hopeless.

Not fun living in a bubble
 
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Sep 3, 2018
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I am considered treatment resistant. I've been on tons of meds. None of them help. Just give me terrible side affects. My psych wanted me to do ECT but I said no way! I'm taking prescibed ketamine now. Going for medicinal marijuana as well.
 
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Sundayafternoon

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May 18, 2018
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I am considered treatment resistant. I've been on tons of meds. None of them help. Just give me terrible side affects. My psych wanted me to do ECT but I said no way! I'm taking prescibed ketamine now. Going for medicinal marijuana as well.


prescribed K? Are you in the states?
 
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I am considered treatment resistant. I've been on tons of meds. None of them help. Just give me terrible side affects. My psych wanted me to do ECT but I said no way! I'm taking prescibed ketamine now. Going for medicinal marijuana as well.
Is the ketamine helping you? I have been interested in that. What dose and price are you on?
 
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Kdawg2018

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Has anyone tried gabapentin for anxiety? It didn't work for anxiety for me, but it helps me to sleep
 
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Has anyone tried gabapentin for anxiety?
I was initially prescribed 600mg, 3x a day for anxiety. By itself, as prescribed like this, it didn't do much.

Now I take 900mg at noon and at bedtime - when my anxiety is highest - along with 20mg propranolol and 30mg baclofen (prescribed off-label to manage PTSD-related symptoms of hyperarousal) and that cocktail is like a nice alternative to a benzo.
 
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Kdawg2018

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I was initially prescribed 600mg, 3x a day for anxiety. By itself, as prescribed like this, it didn't do much for my anxiety.

Now I take 900mg at noon and at bedtime - when my anxiety is highest - along with 20mg propranolol and 30mg baclofen (prescribed off-label to manage PTSD-related symptoms of hyperarousal) and that cocktail is like a nice alternative to a benzo.

It's like an alternative to a benze, but would you rather have a benzo? My psy didn't want to prescribe me benzos when I asked for them
 
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It's like an alternative to a benze, but would you rather have a benzo?
Yes, but there are too many side effects, they aren't meant for long-term use, and I developed a high tolerance so they aren't as effective. I was on Klonopin for nearly ten years, 1mg 3x daily, and I've just now gotten to a maintenance dose of 0.25mg every 2 days. I can't go any lower than that without experiencing physical withdrawals.
 
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At a certain point antidepressants are useless. Doctors don't understand that if a person's life is in ruins a drug cannot magically cause them to accept that. Mind altering addictive chemicals will certainly make things worse.

A person who has a foundation of a decent life, financial security, comfortable circumstances and supportive people can maybe benefit from these meds—but for those without decency in life drugging them into acceptance is destructive and creating a good life from nothing is unrealistic. I believe this is part of that fucked up "American Dream" nonsense where people in bad circumstances are simply not trying hard enough.

Venting because I've had horrible reactions to medication and doctors keep pushing different meds/increased doses on me and I'm tired of it. My life situation is awful and I know these meds won't cause me to somehow accept my fucked up situation. Sitting alone in my room taking SSRI & benzos is not a solution.
This right here...you put into words what I can't articulate. Please vent on...

I see my psychiatrist on Friday. He's not a bad guy, but nevertheless limited in his scope and capacity in his own ways, as I am in mine. I just dread reporting to him that since July, I have been on the craziest ride in my mind since 2014. This time it's kinda worse, because I feel like I'm watching from outside of myself. How to explain all this, and even if I do, all it may result in is another med change. Grrrreat.
 
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Justanotherconsumer

Justanotherconsumer

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Most psyche meds are about as effective as a placebo. Many raise prolactin levels in men so it gives you tits but no vagina so what's the use.
 
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Most psyche meds are about as effective as a placebo. Many raise prolactin levels in men so it gives you tits but no vagina so what's the use.
Thanks for the bittersweet laughter. Tits and vaginas have their pros and cons too ;)
 
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Has anyone tried gabapentin for anxiety? It didn't work for anxiety for me, but it helps me to sleep
Seemed to have no impact on anything, and no side effects for me.
 
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May 11, 2018
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I'll let you know. I'm not home
I'd be interested to hear how you got prescribed with it. I was also recc'd ECT but due to having DID and suffering from memory loss enough I said no. I could try to find a dealer but I don't think I could bother risking it here.
 
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Fucking loving it

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Sep 3, 2018
378
I'd be interested to hear how you got prescribed with it. I was also recc'd ECT but due to having DID and suffering from memory loss enough I said no. I could try to find a dealer but I don't think I could bother risking it here.
Its a study going on to see if ketamine helps with depression or any other mental illnesses. My psychiatrist prescribes it to me. At first it helped with impulsive suicidal thoughts . But lately I've been feeling lower than I've ever felt. Idk if I need a dose increase or what.
 
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AveryConure

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May 11, 2018
437
Its a study going on to see if ketamine helps with depression or any other mental illnesses. My psychiatrist prescribes it to me. At first it helped with impulsive suicidal thoughts . But lately I've been feeling lower than I've ever felt. Idk if I need a dose increase or what.
Huh. I guess if I ever run into a rave and if someone offers it to me I'd try it out of curiosity but doesn't look like it has a 100% success rate. At least the weed sometimes helps I suppose.
 
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I tried Meditation a few times done nothing for me.
 
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Louise

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Apr 28, 2018
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I too can't cry anymore and I miss it.
Am on a shedload of meds which have done nothing for the depression whatsoever.
Medication makes me unable to cry which I don't see as an improvement. Feels worse because everything builds up and depression/anxiety is still there.
 
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lululoo

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Dec 15, 2018
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At a certain point antidepressants are useless. Doctors don't understand that if a person's life is in ruins a drug cannot magically cause them to accept that. Mind altering addictive chemicals will certainly make things worse.

A person who has a foundation of a decent life, financial security, comfortable circumstances and supportive people can maybe benefit from these meds—but for those without decency in life drugging them into acceptance is destructive and creating a good life from nothing is unrealistic. I believe this is part of that fucked up "American Dream" nonsense where people in bad circumstances are simply not trying hard enough.

Venting because I've had horrible reactions to medication and doctors keep pushing different meds/increased doses on me and I'm tired of it. My life situation is awful and I know these meds won't cause me to somehow accept my fucked up situation. Sitting alone in my room taking SSRI & benzos is not a solution.

I have had these exact thoughts and it's so nice to read them from someone else. I think for meds to work well you need:
1. like you said, foundation of a decent life -- in terms of relationships, financial security, physical health, meaning
2. ability to have a placebo response -- a large part of their effectiveness is placebo so if you don't believe they're going to work, you lose that
3. trust in doctors - related to 2
4. non-sensitive body that won't get major side effects, forcing you to go off it

So basically I think the most desperate people are screwed.
 
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Bread

Avoid if allergic to gluten
Dec 1, 2018
80
I agree that for people like us antidepressants are never going to be enough. I haven't been on all of them, but many people don't understand that even the desired effects aren't magical. They're not happy pills. The ones I've been on have either done nothing at all or made me really sick. And then when I inform my psychiatrist about how they're making me sick she just tells me, "that's not likely" because she doesn't know shit about the drugs she prescribes. Yet sure enough, when I stop taking the antidepressant all the side effects go away.
 
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