Maybe option for people who think they dont have any?(dont listen if you dont want to )

[noxu77]

IF YOU ARE SET IN YOUR WAYS I RESPECT YOUR DECISION BUT IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOU COULD SPARE MOMENTS TO READ THEN PLEASE DO.

Hey there. I'm not here to persuade anyone or to impose my views I'm not your father, but I'd like to share a different perspective on life, I've also been at a point where I felt swallowed by darkness and helplessness. I've battled with depression i felt like a outcast like no one understands but thats not the truth ,truth was i didnt want anyone to understand so I understand how formidable and relentless it can seem. However, I want you to know that I've also discovered that things can change, situations evolve.

If you're feeling trapped, like you've run out of options and life has lost its meaning, I totally get where you're coming from. The personal struggles, be it family problems, financial woes, environmental stressors, or just the feeling of being caught in the torrent of life without a way to steer your course, can all contribute to that hopeless feeling.

But here's a thought - do you really know what life's all about and what it has to offer? A lot of folks on here talk about how life is meaningless and you only live once. But if we only have one life and we're all gonna die at some point, why not push ourselves and see what happens? If you're in so much pain, why not live a little longer, do things that push you outside of your comfort zone, and see how you respond?

I get it, it might seem weird or even cruel to some of you. But the reality is, I suspect that many here haven't fully experienced the broader world outside their immediate environment. There are young people on this forum who surely haven't seen much of it. And for the older ones among us, you understand have you ever paused to wonder how others have achieved their dreams while you feel stuck in your current state? hopeless.

Now, let me give you a little about my life and those of the people I'm fortunate to work with. I'm currently studying for medicine, my brother who working at Blackrock, a friend 'A' who's in IT, and 'N', in banking (banker).and "S" a American friend who works with us outside of UK in the us (construction) Our academic journeys varied, but we've each found our paths. My family are in- construction, real estate, the import/export trade, and the lorry trade, my mentor, who made his fortune starting up companies and trading in foreign exchange. He co-founded a successful FinTech firm and commanded multi-million-dollar deals, not all of us are academically gifted and life is tolerating of that if you know how to move around in it .(we are still young !)

One of my closest friends (autistic) was a man who was once on the verge of 'catching the bus.' (was a extreme introvert didn't know what was the meaning of life also took hella medication to zombify him ). I was fortunate to have the opportunity to guide him, and it wasn't an overnight change. It was a slow, painstaking process. But he managed to find passion in life again, and now he's doing well in the IT industry. working together with us

I'm offering to help guide those of you who want it, to help you understand what life can be and how you can get back on track. You might be surprised at what you find once you start exploring and opening up to new experiences.

For me, the meaning of life is progression - to live as fully as possible and allow others the same opportunity. If, after a fulfilling life, you still decide to 'catch the bus's if they are still dissatisfied , that's your choice. But don't end it because you oblivious to the outer sections .

If anyone wants to talk feel free to.(im still new so it will take me some time to talk ) i can understand and promise you to tell do the best i can to help , ( i was there in a dark place too once its not very great)(this is also for people who dont wanna take the dumb therapy route) For the rest of you, I respect that your choice is your own. if you want to CTB its your choice to do so ! but dont be scared to change your mind you aren't a coward if you change it !

 

[Ultracheese]

I can't message you as you have to have a certain amount of posts here to DM people, but I would be interested in talking to you about your methods for guiding people and beliefs on life's fulfillment.

 

[SoftWorries]

You say the meaning of life is progression. Progressing where and for what cause? You mentioned your friend was suicidal but is now happily in IT. There are many IT specialists here. There are also doctors, medical students, engineers and other educated professionals.

A lot of the people here have pushed themselves. Needing to hustle is a big part of mental illness. Psychiatrists medicate people to be job ready. Psychologists advising people they're lazy if they can't work. Promoting progression is a part of hustle culture and can be toxic.

Don't mistake the community for people who wish to die primarily because of having low skilled jobs or no aspirations. Wanting to commit suicide due to situational elements (like your friend) is the minority on here. For the most part people here have had a long standing desire to die.

There are many people in their 40s, 50s and 60s who have lived very productive lives and have wanted to die for a huge part of their lives. Often people don't because they don't want to hurt and cause hurt to their families.

I'm happy that you have a good life without mental illness or crippling trauma. Everyone deserves that

 

[ShadowSleeper]

If you think you can help me I'll give it a try…50 days til i ctb. And I've managed to upset my 2 best friends by vaguely hinting at my plans…at least I can say I tried

 

[noxu77]

You say the meaning of life is progression. Progressing where and for what cause? You mentioned your friend was suicidal but is now happily in IT. There are many IT specialists here. There are also doctors, medical students, engineers and other educated professionals.

A lot of the people here have pushed themselves. Needing to hustle is a big part of mental illness. Psychiatrists medicate people to be job ready. Psychologists advising people they're lazy if they can't work. Promoting progression is a part of hustle culture and can be toxic.

Don't mistake the community for people who wish to die primarily because of having low skilled jobs or no aspirations. Wanting to commit suicide due to situational elements (like your friend) is the minority on here. For the most part people here have had a long standing desire to die.

There are many people in their 40s, 50s and 60s who have lived very productive lives and have wanted to die for a huge part of their lives. Often people don't because they don't want to hurt and cause hurt to their families.

I'm happy that you have a good life without mental illness or crippling trauma. Everyone deserves that

and hello to you as well ! ,

Firstly, I want to clarify that my perspective may not resonate with everyone, and I'm genuinely sorry if it doesn't offer the assistance you might need. My views on progression are oriented more towards a broader understanding of our existence in this world. We often perceive our current situation as the absolute reality, when there's so much more beyond it. Progression for me is the ability to make a positive impact despite the hardships we face.

I agree with you that mental health issues are at an all-time high, and one major reason could be the lack of freedom. Repeating the same routine endlessly in my opinion lead to depression as it might not provide the fulfilment one seeks. Freedom is like a breath of fresh air, it allows you to do what you want and find satisfaction in your actions.

Regarding your point about professionals, I believe most people want to and force this archetype on themselves "lone wolf" approach can be problematic. Although it's admirable to be independent, learning and growing in isolation can be challenging. Unfortunately, many individuals overestimate their abilities and fall into depression when they fail to meet their expectations. and for the people Believing that working for a long time is a purpose in itself can be misleading and potentially harmful.

I agree with your observation on psychiatrists, you're right in saying that the system seems to be designed to make people work-ready, which might not align with everyone's needs or desires but needs of the corps they work for.

The concept of hustle, in my understanding, goes beyond mere hard work. It's about executing a well-structured, meticulously planned strategy. The notion of instant success or a "get rich quick" mentality is unrealistic and often leads to disappointment with people thinking they did something wrong. Businesses take time, effort, strategy, and sometimes a bit of luck to succeed. It's not a gamble but a systematic process.

and less say you want to do a side hustles, not everyone is equipped or has the aptitude to turn their hobby or passion into a successful venture and most people get trapped here they let there emotions take control. This is where your community, network, or mentors come in. Take my friend "K," for example. He's a brilliant medical student but lacks understanding of business concepts. If it weren't for exchange of ideas and talks, it would've been impossible for him to comprehend business intricacies that i was explain as i dont have the knowledge of me i have the knowledge of many people (which we all share to get more smarter together). Our diverse experiences and views have significantly contributed to my financial literacy, something I may not have achieved on my own.

I empathize with those feeling like an outsider in their professional or personal circles. Feeling alienated can indeed lead to emotional distress. However, it's important to remember that money or a high-profile job doesn't determine your worth or happiness for me this is not what determines what you call a productive life.(subjective but for people that understand what I'm saying will know what I'm talking about)

As for individuals who have had traumatic experiences, it's not about dwelling on the past but rather and moving forward for yourself you cannot give the satisfaction to the person or even that caused you it that you still resonate with it . It's about finding the strength to take control of your life and shape it the way you want. To those who have felt they've exhausted all their options and are feeling helpless, I apologize if my words haven't been of help. and I'm sorry that I wasn't of help.

If you think you can help me I'll give it a try…50 days til i ctb. And I've managed to upset my 2 best friends by vaguely hinting at my plans…at least I can say I tried

what is the problem , what do you wish to fix it with (what you think will fix it but might be impossible ) ,how old are you i will show you what is the most likely outcome and how a person your age would fix it

 

[ShadowSleeper]

and hello to you as well ! ,

Firstly, I want to clarify that my perspective may not resonate with everyone, and I'm genuinely sorry if it doesn't offer the assistance you might need. My views on progression are oriented more towards a broader understanding of our existence in this world. We often perceive our current situation as the absolute reality, when there's so much more beyond it. Progression for me is the ability to make a positive impact despite the hardships we face.

I agree with you that mental health issues are at an all-time high, and one major reason could be the lack of freedom. Repeating the same routine endlessly in my opinion lead to depression as it might not provide the fulfilment one seeks. Freedom is like a breath of fresh air, it allows you to do what you want and find satisfaction in your actions.

Regarding your point about professionals, I believe most people want to and force this archetype on themselves "lone wolf" approach can be problematic. Although it's admirable to be independent, learning and growing in isolation can be challenging. Unfortunately, many individuals overestimate their abilities and fall into depression when they fail to meet their expectations. and for the people Believing that working for a long time is a purpose in itself can be misleading and potentially harmful.

I agree with your observation on psychiatrists, you're right in saying that the system seems to be designed to make people work-ready, which might not align with everyone's needs or desires but needs of the corps they work for.

The concept of hustle, in my understanding, goes beyond mere hard work. It's about executing a well-structured, meticulously planned strategy. The notion of instant success or a "get rich quick" mentality is unrealistic and often leads to disappointment with people thinking they did something wrong. Businesses take time, effort, strategy, and sometimes a bit of luck to succeed. It's not a gamble but a systematic process.

and less say you want to do a side hustles, not everyone is equipped or has the aptitude to turn their hobby or passion into a successful venture and most people get trapped here they let there emotions take control. This is where your community, network, or mentors come in. Take my friend "K," for example. He's a brilliant medical student but lacks understanding of business concepts. If it weren't for exchange of ideas and talks, it would've been impossible for him to comprehend business intricacies that i was explain as i dont have the knowledge of me i have the knowledge of many people (which we all share to get more smarter together). Our diverse experiences and views have significantly contributed to my financial literacy, something I may not have achieved on my own.

I empathize with those feeling like an outsider in their professional or personal circles. Feeling alienated can indeed lead to emotional distress. However, it's important to remember that money or a high-profile job doesn't determine your worth or happiness for me this is not what determines what you call a productive life.(subjective but for people that understand what I'm saying will know what I'm talking about)

As for individuals who have had traumatic experiences, it's not about dwelling on the past but rather and moving forward for yourself you cannot give the satisfaction to the person or even that caused you it that you still resonate with it . It's about finding the strength to take control of your life and shape it the way you want. To those who have felt they've exhausted all their options and are feeling helpless, I apologize if my words haven't been of help. and I'm sorry that I wasn't of help.

what is the problem , what do you wish to fix it with (what you think will fix it but might be impossible ) ,how old are you i will show you what is the most likely outcome and how a person your age would fix it

Stuck in an abusive marriage with 3 kids, one who has stage 4 cancer, I'm gunna be 30 in 50 days. Trying to get my real estate license but also battling with suicide and depression. I'm on my own in life no family and was moved away from all my friends so I have no one to help me but my internet/gaming friends. I feels stuck i can't pass my exam and even if I do I feel like I can't compete against a man who makes almost 100,000 a year. I don't want to fight the fight that comes with leaving an abusive marriage but I don't have the strength to keep on(it's been almost 9 years)

 

[noxu77]

Stuck in an abusive marriage with 3 kids, one who has stage 4 cancer, I'm gunna be 30 in 50 days. Trying to get my real estate license but also battling with suicide and depression. I'm on my own in life no family and was moved away from all my friends so I have no one to help me but my internet/gaming friends. I feels stuck i can't pass my exam and even if I do I feel like I can't compete against a man who makes almost 100,000 a year. I don't want to fight the fight that comes with leaving an abusive marriage but I don't have the strength to keep on(it's been almost 9 years)

are you from uk or America

 

[ShadowSleeper]

are you from uk or America

America

 

[The anhedonic one]

I've skydived, raced motorcycles, climbed mountains, taken most recreational drugs, and many more so-called exciting things.
YET NONE OF THEM Took away my crippling depression, abuse trauma, and existential crisis.
Many of us here are way beyond even wanting to get better.
Unless you have reached the absolute pit of despair, and are there to stay, then absolutely nothing in this world can ever help you.

Stuck in an abusive marriage with 3 kids, one who has stage 4 cancer, I'm gunna be 30 in 50 days. Trying to get my real estate license but also battling with suicide and depression. I'm on my own in life no family and was moved away from all my friends so I have no one to help me but my internet/gaming friends. I feels stuck i can't pass my exam and even if I do I feel like I can't compete against a man who makes almost 100,000 a year. I don't want to fight the fight that comes with leaving an abusive marriage but I don't have the strength to keep on(it's been almost 9 years)

So sorry you are going through this. I've been through similar things. It's brutal.

 

[SoftWorries]

"As for individuals who have had traumatic experiences, it's not about dwelling on the past but rather and moving forward for yourself-"

Do you see how this kind of advice actually blames the people that cannot get over their traumas?

Saying don't dwell on the past ignores the fact that people are experiencing triggers. Did you know that PTSD is a brain injury? It changes the structure of the brain to be much more frightened.

Flashbacks are like psychedelic experiences that you didn't ask to have. All of a sudden you're 'high' with pervasive images, sounds, memories all around. Your body is reacting in danger and you're filled with adrenalin.

You probably want to take a break and go somewhere to calm down but maybe you're surrounded by people who would think you're dwelling. So you sit there not getting any true understanding and start to drown in the suffering

"-you cannot give the satisfaction to the person or even that caused you it that you still resonate with it "
This kind of mindset that you must victor over your abuser and not 'give them the satisfaction' puts so much more extra pressure on people with trauma. Not only are they having these symptoms but instead of being able to deal with them devoid of thinking about those who've abused them they feel like their abusers are 'in their head' and that they're 'letting them win'.

This is the most common mindset of people who have suffered trauma. The things you've advised actually keep the traumatized person in the trauma cycle for that reason.

Here is another issue with that mindset: the abuser has already 'won'. Most abusers don't get any noticable punishment for their actions. A person might see their abuser as a product of a unhealthy society, one that they don't have the mental capacity to attempt to change even if it was possible.

This is especially true for people who have been serially abuse which is very common. The telltale signs of an abused individual attract more abusers to their roadshow. It's difficult to find trustworthy friends and people for the average person. For the traumatized and mentally ill it can be nearly impossible.

Trauma responses/trauma brain changes are not something people choose. It isn't due to lack of strength or because they dwell and let their abusers win. PTSD is actually a very normal state in nature. The majority of birds for instance have PTSD related brain changes.

I think perhaps you have the wrong idea of what it means to live with trauma. It's very close to having schizophrenia or other mental illnesses except it's had a catalyst. I think if you think of it that way you'll have a better understanding of why it's difficult to treat trauma.

For many people on here they're seeking MDMA, ketamine and psychedelic therapy as an attempt to save their lives or give them a life worth saving away from their mental illness

It isn't that I disagree with you. I think that having something to live for is the name of the game. I have a huge amount of passion for the things I care about. For the people I care about. It's what makes life worth living. But for me it's all done within the bad trip of mental illness

I think if you want to be an advocate against suicide you could read books concerning it. I'd suggest Acid Test: LSD, Ecstasy, and the Power to Heal by Tom Shroder. It has many descriptions of people recovering from long standing trauma including rape victims, soldiers, survivors of childhood abuse etc. From there there are tons of other books and resources that would better help you understand the experiences of those who live within trauma and the difficulty to heal

I think it's great that you want to be an advocate but being one means you've got to understand the people you're talking to

 

[The anhedonic one]

"As for individuals who have had traumatic experiences, it's not about dwelling on the past but rather and moving forward for yourself-"

Do you see how this kind of advice actually blames the people that cannot get over their traumas?

Saying don't dwell on the past ignores the fact that people are experiencing triggers. Did you know that PTSD is a brain injury? It changes the structure of the brain to be much more frightened.

Flashbacks are like psychedelic experiences that you didn't ask to have. All of a sudden you're 'high' with pervasive images, sounds, memories all around. Your body is reacting in danger and you're filled with adrenalin.

You probably want to take a break and go somewhere to calm down but maybe you're surrounded by people who would think you're dwelling. So you sit there not getting any true understanding and start to drown in the suffering
"-you cannot give the satisfaction to the person or even that caused you it that you still resonate with it "
This kind of mindset that you must victor over your abuser and not 'give them the satisfaction' puts so much more extra pressure on people with trauma. Not only are they having these symptoms but instead of being able to deal with them devoid of thinking about the who've abused them they feel like their abusers are 'in their head' and that they're 'letting them win'.
This is the most common mindset of people who have suffered trauma. The things you've advised actually keep the traumatized person in the trauma cycle for that reason.

Here is another issue with that mindset: the abuser has already 'won '. Most abusers don't get any noticable punishment for their actions. A person might see their abuser as a product of a unhealthy society, one that they don't have the mental capacity to attempt to change even if it was possible.

This is especially true for people who have been serially abuse which is very common. The telltale signs of an abused individual attract more abusers to their roadshow. It's difficult to find trustworthy friends and people for the average person. For the traumatized and mentally ill it can be nearly impossible.

Trauma responses/trauma brain changes are not something people choose. It isn't due to lack of strength or because they dwell and let their abusers win. PTSD is actually a very normal state in nature. The majority of birds for instance have PTSD related brain changes.

I think perhaps you have the wrong idea of what it means to live with trauma. It's very close to having schizophrenia or other mental illnesses except it's had a catalyst. I think if you think of it that way you'll have a better understanding of why it's difficult to treat trauma.

For many people on here they're seeking MDMA, ketamine and psychedelic therapy as an attempt to save their lives or give them a life worth saving away from their mental illness

It isn't that I disagree with you. I think that having something to live for is the name of the game. I have a huge amount of passion for the things I care about. For the people I care about. It's what makes life worth living. But for me it's all done within the bad trip of mental illness

I think if you want to be an advocate against suicide you could read books concerning it. I'd suggest Acid Test: LSD, Ecstasy, and the Power to Heal by Tom Shroder. It has many descriptions of people recovering from long standing trauma including rape victims, soldiers, survivors of childhood abuse etc. From there there are tons of other books and resources that would better help you understand the experiences of those who live within trauma and the difficulty to heal

I think it's great that you want to be an advocate but being one means you've got to understand the people you're talking to

You've explained this brilliantly.
I went through narcissistic abuse from a very young age.

 

[SoftWorries]

You've explained this brilliantly.
I went through narcissistic abuse from a very young age.

I'm so sorry about that. I also went through narcissistic abuse since a very young age. I've only been two years outside of it now and I'm trying to find a place in the world apart from it

Sending you lots of love

 

[noxu77]

I've skydived, raced motorcycles, climbed mountains, taken most recreational drugs, and many more so-called exciting things.
YET NONE OF THEM Took away my crippling depression, abuse trauma, and existential crisis.
Many of us here are way beyond even wanting to get better.
Unless you have reached the absolute pit of despair, and are there to stay, then absolutely nothing in this world can ever help you.

So sorry you are going through this. I've been through similar things. It's brutal.

putting you life in danger forces a trigger of dopamine release you talking about wasting money to do things to forget about your current situation I'm talking about fixing the situation as a whole not avoiding it ,this isnt very related to the mans situation .

America

This will be blunt, but remember you're surviving, so let's give it a bit of a push. I'm not sure if you have another income source, or whether you're a man or a woman, but if your only income source is going to be real estate, that might not be the best idea. As an example, my biological father's friend started as a taxi driver. He used that as his base and then bought gyms, like Gold's Gym, by using a repossessing method. I won't go into details here unless you request it, but the point is he built his wealth slowly.

There are two things you need to adopt in your mind: things you can control and things you cannot. First, let's address things you can't control: you have three children, one of whom has stage 4 cancer. I'm sorry to hear that. Your age is increasing, and your family is distant.

Next, let's consider what you can control: your real estate license, your depression, and your marriage. (The way I help will depend on whether you're in the US or UK.) Concerning the people earning 100k, don't worry about them. You're starting small and building up, which is precisely how most successful people do it. (I'm getting my first property too.) I can assist you with utilizing loopholes in your area. Remember, you're only 30, so you have time. You wouldn't want to leave your children without a good role model, which you can be.

About the pain of leaving an abusive relationship, it's not something you can just do impulsively. You need to find a place to stay and manage your finances. Your situation seems relatively manageable with some hard work.

As for your depression, it's your body's way of telling you that your current environment is suboptimal, but you don't know how to fix it. You're feeling stuck, so we're going to need to work backwards. It's not that bad. I'm more in touch with UK legislation and rules loopholes. My mentor, who worked in America, knows a lot about loopholes there. He worked at Goldman Sachs and is a significant real estate investor.

Of course, you need to show love and compassion, but this, I believe, is the crux of your problem. If you can love yourself, you can love others, but first, we need to get out of the depression mindset. From there, you can grow significantly.

"As for individuals who have had traumatic experiences, it's not about dwelling on the past but rather and moving forward for yourself-"

Do you see how this kind of advice actually blames the people that cannot get over their traumas?

Saying don't dwell on the past ignores the fact that people are experiencing triggers. Did you know that PTSD is a brain injury? It changes the structure of the brain to be much more frightened.

Flashbacks are like psychedelic experiences that you didn't ask to have. All of a sudden you're 'high' with pervasive images, sounds, memories all around. Your body is reacting in danger and you're filled with adrenalin.

You probably want to take a break and go somewhere to calm down but maybe you're surrounded by people who would think you're dwelling. So you sit there not getting any true understanding and start to drown in the suffering

"-you cannot give the satisfaction to the person or even that caused you it that you still resonate with it "
This kind of mindset that you must victor over your abuser and not 'give them the satisfaction' puts so much more extra pressure on people with trauma. Not only are they having these symptoms but instead of being able to deal with them devoid of thinking about those who've abused them they feel like their abusers are 'in their head' and that they're 'letting them win'.

This is the most common mindset of people who have suffered trauma. The things you've advised actually keep the traumatized person in the trauma cycle for that reason.

Here is another issue with that mindset: the abuser has already 'won'. Most abusers don't get any noticable punishment for their actions. A person might see their abuser as a product of a unhealthy society, one that they don't have the mental capacity to attempt to change even if it was possible.

This is especially true for people who have been serially abuse which is very common. The telltale signs of an abused individual attract more abusers to their roadshow. It's difficult to find trustworthy friends and people for the average person. For the traumatized and mentally ill it can be nearly impossible.

Trauma responses/trauma brain changes are not something people choose. It isn't due to lack of strength or because they dwell and let their abusers win. PTSD is actually a very normal state in nature. The majority of birds for instance have PTSD related brain changes.

I think perhaps you have the wrong idea of what it means to live with trauma. It's very close to having schizophrenia or other mental illnesses except it's had a catalyst. I think if you think of it that way you'll have a better understanding of why it's difficult to treat trauma.

For many people on here they're seeking MDMA, ketamine and psychedelic therapy as an attempt to save their lives or give them a life worth saving away from their mental illness

It isn't that I disagree with you. I think that having something to live for is the name of the game. I have a huge amount of passion for the things I care about. For the people I care about. It's what makes life worth living. But for me it's all done within the bad trip of mental illness

I think if you want to be an advocate against suicide you could read books concerning it. I'd suggest Acid Test: LSD, Ecstasy, and the Power to Heal by Tom Shroder. It has many descriptions of people recovering from long standing trauma including rape victims, soldiers, survivors of childhood abuse etc. From there there are tons of other books and resources that would better help you understand the experiences of those who live within trauma and the difficulty to heal

I think it's great that you want to be an advocate but being one means you've got to understand the people you're talking to

I understand trauma's profound effect on people. My mother was raped by her father, and that trauma was suppressed for a very long time. I'm open to discussing it, as I'm the one who helped her move past it. Of course, it's a personal battle and it's up to the individual to want to fight. I acknowledge that not everyone will benefit from my help, and I assure you that I will read those recommended books to learn more. However, suicide isn't always the option, and that's the entire point of this thread. It's for people who harbor thoughts that maybe, just maybe, there are more options out there. I'm not here to impose my views on anyone; I respect anyone's wishes to 'catch the bus.' But I am here to help to the best of my ability. I'm here to offer the tools I have.im not here to offend anyone just to help.

 

[The anhedonic one]

I'm so sorry about that. I also went through narcissistic abuse since a very young age. I've only been two years outside of it now and I'm trying to find a place in the world apart from it

Sending you lots of love

Lots of love to you too.
So sorry you went through that

putting you life in danger forces a trigger of dopamine release you talking about wasting money to do things to forget about your current situation I'm talking about fixing the situation as a whole not avoiding it ,this isnt very related to the mans situation .

This will be blunt, but remember you're surviving, so let's give it a bit of a push. I'm not sure if you have another income source, or whether you're a man or a woman, but if your only income source is going to be real estate, that might not be the best idea. As an example, my biological father's friend started as a taxi driver. He used that as his base and then bought gyms, like Gold's Gym, by using a repossessing method. I won't go into details here unless you request it, but the point is he built his wealth slowly.

There are two things you need to adopt in your mind: things you can control and things you cannot. First, let's address things you can't control: you have three children, one of whom has stage 4 cancer. I'm sorry to hear that. Your age is increasing, and your family is distant.

Next, let's consider what you can control: your real estate license, your depression, and your marriage. (The way I help will depend on whether you're in the US or UK.) Concerning the people earning 100k, don't worry about them. You're starting small and building up, which is precisely how most successful people do it. (I'm getting my first property too.) I can assist you with utilizing loopholes in your area. Remember, you're only 30, so you have time. You wouldn't want to leave your children without a good role model, which you can be.

About the pain of leaving an abusive relationship, it's not something you can just do impulsively. You need to find a place to stay and manage your finances. Your situation seems relatively manageable with some hard work.

As for your depression, it's your body's way of telling you that your current environment is suboptimal, but you don't know how to fix it. You're feeling stuck, so we're going to need to work backwards. It's not that bad. I'm more in touch with UK legislation and rules loopholes. My mentor, who worked in America, knows a lot about loopholes there. He worked at Goldman Sachs and is a significant real estate investor.

Of course, you need to show love and compassion, but this, I believe, is the crux of your problem. If you can love yourself, you can love others, but first, we need to get out of the depression mindset. From there, you can grow significantly.

I understand trauma's profound effect on people. My mother was raped by her father, and that trauma was suppressed for a very long time. I'm open to discussing it, as I'm the one who helped her move past it. Of course, it's a personal battle and it's up to the individual to want to fight. I acknowledge that not everyone will benefit from my help, and I assure you that I will read those recommended books to learn more. However, suicide isn't always the option, and that's the entire point of this thread. It's for people who harbor thoughts that maybe, just maybe, there are more options out there. I'm not here to impose my views on anyone; I respect anyone's wishes to 'catch the bus.' But I am here to help to the best of my ability. I'm here to offer the tools I have.im not here to offend anyone just to help.

You are full of shit. How dare you pretend to know me, or know what's best for me. Stop ranting on about your stupid schemes. Take your stupid ass nonsense to a different forum. You are obviously not going through hell like most of us here. If you were, you wouldn't post such bullshit.

 

[noxu77]

Lots of love to you too.
So sorry you went through that

You are full of shit. How dare you pretend to know me, or know what's best for me. Stop ranting on about your stupid schemes. Take your stupid ass nonsense to a different forum. You are obviously not going through hell like most of us here. If you were, you wouldn't post such bullshit.

I didn't mean to offend you, but I have no context other than the information you've provided. I'm truly sorry if I gave the impression that I haven't experienced hardships in life. My parents are divorced, and my mother and I were homeless for quite some time. We had to live in hotels day by day because we didn't have a stable place to stay; some days, we even lived in our car. My biological father took everything from my mother, leaving us on the streets. I've seen my mother being abused; fragmented images of her in the hospital still haunt me. I, too, have trauma that I suppress, but I continue to move forward.

There are a lot of things I've experienced which I must acknowledge, but find difficult to fully comprehend. I've witnessed my mother being raped by her own father. I was almost killed in a fit of rage by my biological father when he tried to smash my head in with a brick; I still have the scar on my head. He also tried to kill my brother by choking him out in front of me. I've seen people sent to harm my mother because my foolish father owed money.

I apologize for making assumptions. I should never have done that. My intention is simply to help i never meant any harm i just dont want people to ctb too soon but some people make up their mind which is fine im ok with that but some people got time (my mother opened her own buisness and we grew from that got our life back on track removed toxicity which we have the luxury of doing )im just here if someone needs it not here to impose.

 

[The anhedonic one]

I didn't mean to offend you, but I have no context other than the information you've provided. I'm truly sorry if I gave the impression that I haven't experienced hardships in life. My parents are divorced, and my mother and I were homeless for quite some time. We had to live in hotels day by day because we didn't have a stable place to stay; some days, we even lived in our car. My biological father took everything from my mother, leaving us on the streets. I've seen my mother being abused; fragmented images of her in the hospital still haunt me. I, too, have trauma that I suppress, but I continue to move forward.

There are a lot of things I've experienced which I must acknowledge, but find difficult to fully comprehend. I've witnessed my mother being raped by her own father. I was almost killed in a fit of rage by my biological father when he tried to smash my head in with a brick; I still have the scar on my head. He also tried to kill my brother by choking him out in front of me. I've seen people sent to harm my mother because my foolish father owed money.

I apologize for making assumptions. I should never have done that. My intention is simply to help i never meant any harm i just dont want people to ctb too soon but some people make up their mind which is fine im ok with that but some people got time (my mother opened her own buisness and we grew from that got our life back on track removed toxicity which we have the luxury of doing )im just here if someone needs it not here to impose.

I've been mentally broken by my narcissistic Mother. Ass raped by my evil stepfather. Had my life destroyed by my sociopathic wife.
Some of us are broken beyond repair. I'm sorry for ranting before but I hate it when people tell me I can get better.
IT IS NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN

 

[ShadowSleeper]

putting you life in danger forces a trigger of dopamine release you talking about wasting money to do things to forget about your current situation I'm talking about fixing the situation as a whole not avoiding it ,this isnt very related to the mans situation .

This will be blunt, but remember you're surviving, so let's give it a bit of a push. I'm not sure if you have another income source, or whether you're a man or a woman, but if your only income source is going to be real estate, that might not be the best idea. As an example, my biological father's friend started as a taxi driver. He used that as his base and then bought gyms, like Gold's Gym, by using a repossessing method. I won't go into details here unless you request it, but the point is he built his wealth slowly.

There are two things you need to adopt in your mind: things you can control and things you cannot. First, let's address things you can't control: you have three children, one of whom has stage 4 cancer. I'm sorry to hear that. Your age is increasing, and your family is distant.

Next, let's consider what you can control: your real estate license, your depression, and your marriage. (The way I help will depend on whether you're in the US or UK.) Concerning the people earning 100k, don't worry about them. You're starting small and building up, which is precisely how most successful people do it. (I'm getting my first property too.) I can assist you with utilizing loopholes in your area. Remember, you're only 30, so you have time. You wouldn't want to leave your children without a good role model, which you can be.

About the pain of leaving an abusive relationship, it's not something you can just do impulsively. You need to find a place to stay and manage your finances. Your situation seems relatively manageable with some hard work.

As for your depression, it's your body's way of telling you that your current environment is suboptimal, but you don't know how to fix it. You're feeling stuck, so we're going to need to work backwards. It's not that bad. I'm more in touch with UK legislation and rules loopholes. My mentor, who worked in America, knows a lot about loopholes there. He worked at Goldman Sachs and is a significant real estate investor.

Of course, you need to show love and compassion, but this, I believe, is the crux of your problem. If you can love yourself, you can love others, but first, we need to get out of the depression mindset. From there, you can grow significantly.

I understand trauma's profound effect on people. My mother was raped by her father, and that trauma was suppressed for a very long time. I'm open to discussing it, as I'm the one who helped her move past it. Of course, it's a personal battle and it's up to the individual to want to fight. I acknowledge that not everyone will benefit from my help, and I assure you that I will read those recommended books to learn more. However, suicide isn't always the option, and that's the entire point of this thread. It's for people who harbor thoughts that maybe, just maybe, there are more options out there. I'm not here to impose my views on anyone; I respect anyone's wishes to 'catch the bus.' But I am here to help to the best of my ability. I'm here to offer the tools I have.im not here to offend anyone just to help.

I know I'll probably have to do more than just real estate but I'm 30 with nothing more than a highschool diploma . I'm a woman I've been a homemaker and mother since I was 20 I probably ducked myself there but I've got no career or degree to build on. Thing is I don't want it to take year to be successful enough to leave. I don't want to lose custody of my kids leaving because my spouse makes more. And I know that it takes work to do this to leave to have freedom but I am struggling to keep fighting to get out and do what needs to be done and I'm still under the thumb of control

 

[SoftWorries]

putting you life in danger forces a trigger of dopamine release you talking about wasting money to do things to forget about your current situation I'm talking about fixing the situation as a whole not avoiding it ,this isnt very related to the mans situation .

This will be blunt, but remember you're surviving, so let's give it a bit of a push. I'm not sure if you have another income source, or whether you're a man or a woman, but if your only income source is going to be real estate, that might not be the best idea. As an example, my biological father's friend started as a taxi driver. He used that as his base and then bought gyms, like Gold's Gym, by using a repossessing method. I won't go into details here unless you request it, but the point is he built his wealth slowly.

There are two things you need to adopt in your mind: things you can control and things you cannot. First, let's address things you can't control: you have three children, one of whom has stage 4 cancer. I'm sorry to hear that. Your age is increasing, and your family is distant.

Next, let's consider what you can control: your real estate license, your depression, and your marriage. (The way I help will depend on whether you're in the US or UK.) Concerning the people earning 100k, don't worry about them. You're starting small and building up, which is precisely how most successful people do it. (I'm getting my first property too.) I can assist you with utilizing loopholes in your area. Remember, you're only 30, so you have time. You wouldn't want to leave your children without a good role model, which you can be.

About the pain of leaving an abusive relationship, it's not something you can just do impulsively. You need to find a place to stay and manage your finances. Your situation seems relatively manageable with some hard work.

As for your depression, it's your body's way of telling you that your current environment is suboptimal, but you don't know how to fix it. You're feeling stuck, so we're going to need to work backwards. It's not that bad. I'm more in touch with UK legislation and rules loopholes. My mentor, who worked in America, knows a lot about loopholes there. He worked at Goldman Sachs and is a significant real estate investor.

Of course, you need to show love and compassion, but this, I believe, is the crux of your problem. If you can love yourself, you can love others, but first, we need to get out of the depression mindset. From there, you can grow significantly.

I understand trauma's profound effect on people. My mother was raped by her father, and that trauma was suppressed for a very long time. I'm open to discussing it, as I'm the one who helped her move past it. Of course, it's a personal battle and it's up to the individual to want to fight. I acknowledge that not everyone will benefit from my help, and I assure you that I will read those recommended books to learn more. However, suicide isn't always the option, and that's the entire point of this thread. It's for people who harbor thoughts that maybe, just maybe, there are more options out there. I'm not here to impose my views on anyone; I respect anyone's wishes to 'catch the bus.' But I am here to help to the best of my ability. I'm here to offer the tools I have.im not here to offend anyone just to help.

You defend your ability to understand trauma but I posted your response to The anhedonic one into ChatGPT. Here was the response:

"While the person giving advice may have good intentions, there are several problematic aspects in their approach and advice for a depressed individual:

Oversimplification of depression: Depression is a complex mental health condition that cannot be solely attributed to an "suboptimal environment" or be fixed by "working backwards." It is a serious medical condition that often requires professional help, including therapy and, in some cases, medication.

Blaming the individual: The person seems to imply that the individual's depression is their fault or a result of their inability to love themselves. This blame can further contribute to feelings of guilt and self-blame, which are unhelpful and can worsen the person's mental health.

Minimizing the challenges faced: The person acknowledges the difficulties the individual is dealing with, such as having a child with stage 4 cancer and a distant family, but fails to acknowledge the significant impact these challenges can have on the person's mental health. This lack of empathy can invalidate the person's experiences and emotions.

Oversimplification of leaving an abusive relationship: Leaving an abusive relationship is not as simple as finding a place to stay and managing finances. It involves complex dynamics, safety concerns, and emotional trauma. It is essential to approach this topic with sensitivity and provide resources for professional support and guidance.

Promoting questionable methods: The person mentions utilizing "loopholes" without specifying what these entail. It is crucial to be cautious when dealing with legal matters and to seek advice from qualified professionals rather than relying on potentially risky or unethical tactics.

Assuming success based on one individual's story: The person shares a success story of someone who built wealth slowly, starting as a taxi driver. While this can be inspiring, it is not a guaranteed path to success for everyone. Each individual's circumstances and opportunities differ, and it's important to consider a holistic approach tailored to the person's specific situation.

In summary, the issues with this person's advice include oversimplification of depression, blaming the individual, minimizing challenges, oversimplification of leaving an abusive relationship, promoting questionable methods, and assuming success based on one story. It is crucial for individuals dealing with depression to seek professional help and support from qualified mental health professionals."

So like, if AI can tell that this ain't it... This just ain't it OP. You're not helping anyone with your platitudes

 

[noxu77]

I know I'll probably have to do more than just real estate but I'm 30 with nothing more than a highschool diploma . I'm a woman I've been a homemaker and mother since I was 20 I probably ducked myself there but I've got no career or degree to build on. Thing is I don't want it to take year to be successful enough to leave. I don't want to lose custody of my kids leaving because my spouse makes more. And I know that it takes work to do this to leave to have freedom but I am struggling to keep fighting to get out and do what needs to be done and I'm still under the thumb of control

Alright, I actually have quite a bit of advice for you, but let's delve a bit deeper. Do you have any work experience at all? It doesn't matter how long ago it was or even if you think it's not relevant; any experience can be helpful. If you don't want this transition to take a year, we might need to use a more aggressive method to break into the market. This could be similar to what the taxi driver I mentioned earlier did.

If you're comfortable discussing it, could you tell me more about the abuse you're experiencing? You absolutely don't have to answer if you don't want to, but it could help me formulate a more specific plan tailored to your situation. I aim to help you integrate this plan into your life discreetly, which will be beneficial. Regarding the financial aspect of getting into real estate, we can consider different routes. These might include investment or house buying strategies. and "funny" tax related things

 

[SoftWorries]

IF YOU ARE SET IN YOUR WAYS I RESPECT YOUR DECISION BUT IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOU COULD SPARE MOMENTS TO READ THEN PLEASE DO.

Hey there. I'm not here to persuade anyone or to impose my views I'm not your father, but I'd like to share a different perspective on life, I've also been at a point where I felt swallowed by darkness and helplessness. I've battled with depression i felt like a outcast like no one understands but thats not the truth ,truth was i didnt want anyone to understand so I understand how formidable and relentless it can seem. However, I want you to know that I've also discovered that things can change, situations evolve.

If you're feeling trapped, like you've run out of options and life has lost its meaning, I totally get where you're coming from. The personal struggles, be it family problems, financial woes, environmental stressors, or just the feeling of being caught in the torrent of life without a way to steer your course, can all contribute to that hopeless feeling.

But here's a thought - do you really know what life's all about and what it has to offer? A lot of folks on here talk about how life is meaningless and you only live once. But if we only have one life and we're all gonna die at some point, why not push ourselves and see what happens? If you're in so much pain, why not live a little longer, do things that push you outside of your comfort zone, and see how you respond?

I get it, it might seem weird or even cruel to some of you. But the reality is, I suspect that many here haven't fully experienced the broader world outside their immediate environment. There are young people on this forum who surely haven't seen much of it. And for the older ones among us, you understand have you ever paused to wonder how others have achieved their dreams while you feel stuck in your current state? hopeless.

Now, let me give you a little about my life and those of the people I'm fortunate to work with. I'm currently studying for medicine, my brother who working at Blackrock, a friend 'A' who's in IT, and 'N', in banking (banker).and "S" a American friend who works with us outside of UK in the us (construction) Our academic journeys varied, but we've each found our paths. My family are in- construction, real estate, the import/export trade, and the lorry trade, my mentor, who made his fortune starting up companies and trading in foreign exchange. He co-founded a successful FinTech firm and commanded multi-million-dollar deals, not all of us are academically gifted and life is tolerating of that if you know how to move around in it .(we are still young !)

One of my closest friends (autistic) was a man who was once on the verge of 'catching the bus.' (was a extreme introvert didn't know what was the meaning of life also took hella medication to zombify him ). I was fortunate to have the opportunity to guide him, and it wasn't an overnight change. It was a slow, painstaking process. But he managed to find passion in life again, and now he's doing well in the IT industry. working together with us

I'm offering to help guide those of you who want it, to help you understand what life can be and how you can get back on track. You might be surprised at what you find once you start exploring and opening up to new experiences.

For me, the meaning of life is progression - to live as fully as possible and allow others the same opportunity. If, after a fulfilling life, you still decide to 'catch the bus's if they are still dissatisfied , that's your choice. But don't end it because you oblivious to the outer sections .

If anyone wants to talk feel free to.(im still new so it will take me some time to talk ) i can understand and promise you to tell do the best i can to help , ( i was there in a dark place too once its not very great)(this is also for people who dont wanna take the dumb therapy route) For the rest of you, I respect that your choice is your own. if you want to CTB its your choice to do so ! but dont be scared to change your mind you aren't a coward if you change it !

Here is the ChatGPT response to your original post:

"While it's commendable that you want to share your perspective and offer support to those who may be struggling, there are a few issues with the approach and language used in your message:

Assumptions and generalizations: You make assumptions about the experiences and perspectives of the people you're addressing. You assume that they haven't experienced the broader world or achieved their dreams, which may not be accurate for everyone. It's important to approach conversations with empathy and without making assumptions about others' circumstances.

Oversimplification of mental health struggles: Depression and other mental health conditions are complex and not easily overcome by simply pushing oneself outside of their comfort zone or trying new experiences. It's important to acknowledge the complexity of mental health and the need for professional help, such as therapy or medication, for many individuals.

Minimizing the impact of personal struggles: While encouraging people to explore and find meaning in life is positive, it's crucial to recognize that each person's struggles and challenges are unique. Saying things like "why not live a little longer" or "don't end it because you're oblivious to the outer sections" can come across as dismissive or invalidating of their pain and emotions.

Lack of awareness of individual circumstances: You mention your own experiences and the success stories of people you know, but it's important to remember that everyone's circumstances and opportunities are different. Not everyone has access to the same resources, support systems, or opportunities, so it's not always as simple as "finding passion in life again" or "getting back on track."

In summary, it's important to approach discussions about mental health and life struggles with empathy, understanding, and a recognition of the complexities involved. Encouraging open dialogue and offering support is valuable, but it's essential to be mindful of the language used and avoid oversimplifications or dismissals of others' experiences."

As an IT lover maybe you could check with ChatGPT if you're providing any help before you write on here.

 

[noxu77]

You defend your ability to understand trauma but I posted your response to The anhedonic one into ChatGPT. Here was the response:

"While the person giving advice may have good intentions, there are several problematic aspects in their approach and advice for a depressed individual:

Oversimplification of depression: Depression is a complex mental health condition that cannot be solely attributed to an "suboptimal environment" or be fixed by "working backwards." It is a serious medical condition that often requires professional help, including therapy and, in some cases, medication.

Blaming the individual: The person seems to imply that the individual's depression is their fault or a result of their inability to love themselves. This blame can further contribute to feelings of guilt and self-blame, which are unhelpful and can worsen the person's mental health.

Minimizing the challenges faced: The person acknowledges the difficulties the individual is dealing with, such as having a child with stage 4 cancer and a distant family, but fails to acknowledge the significant impact these challenges can have on the person's mental health. This lack of empathy can invalidate the person's experiences and emotions.

Oversimplification of leaving an abusive relationship: Leaving an abusive relationship is not as simple as finding a place to stay and managing finances. It involves complex dynamics, safety concerns, and emotional trauma. It is essential to approach this topic with sensitivity and provide resources for professional support and guidance.

Promoting questionable methods: The person mentions utilizing "loopholes" without specifying what these entail. It is crucial to be cautious when dealing with legal matters and to seek advice from qualified professionals rather than relying on potentially risky or unethical tactics.

Assuming success based on one individual's story: The person shares a success story of someone who built wealth slowly, starting as a taxi driver. While this can be inspiring, it is not a guaranteed path to success for everyone. Each individual's circumstances and opportunities differ, and it's important to consider a holistic approach tailored to the person's specific situation.

In summary, the issues with this person's advice include oversimplification of depression, blaming the individual, minimizing challenges, oversimplification of leaving an abusive relationship, promoting questionable methods, and assuming success based on one story. It is crucial for individuals dealing with depression to seek professional help and support from qualified mental health professionals."

So like, if AI can tell that this ain't it... This just ain't it OP. You're not helping anyone with your platitudes

I appreciate your response and your perspective on the advice I provided. I understand now how my words might have been perceived as oversimplifying the complexities of depression and the challenges faced by the individual. This certainly wasn't my intention, and I appreciate your input to help me improve.

Depression is indeed a complex and serious mental health condition and I agree that professional help is often necessary. My intention wasn't to blame the individual but rather to suggest ways to approach their situation. I understand that my choice of words might have implied blame and I apologize for any misunderstanding.

I realize I may have under-emphasized the significant impact of the challenges faced. It's important to validate and recognize the individual's experiences and emotions, and I'll strive to do this more effectively in the future.

When discussing leaving an abusive relationship, you're correct that it involves complex dynamics, safety concerns, and emotional trauma. My aim was to provide a starting point for planning and not to downplay the enormity of the task.

Concerning the "loopholes" I mentioned, I used this term to refer to legal strategies for investment or saving money, but I understand how it might seem ambiguous or questionable.

Regarding the success story, I agree that one person's path isn't guaranteed to work for everyone. It was meant as an example, not a roadmap I'm just here to relay information if required by someone

I'm learning and will be more sensitive in the future. I'm thankful you called me out .

 

[ShadowSleeper]

Alright, I actually have quite a bit of advice for you, but let's delve a bit deeper. Do you have any work experience at all? It doesn't matter how long ago it was or even if you think it's not relevant; any experience can be helpful. If you don't want this transition to take a year, we might need to use a more aggressive method to break into the market. This could be similar to what the taxi driver I mentioned earlier did.

If you're comfortable discussing it, could you tell me more about the abuse you're experiencing? You absolutely don't have to answer if you don't want to, but it could help me formulate a more specific plan tailored to your situation. I aim to help you integrate this plan into your life discreetly, which will be beneficial. Regarding the financial aspect of getting into real estate, we can consider different routes. These might include investment or house buying strategies. and "funny" tax related things

The only jobs I ever worked were as a teen. I worked at a gas station, a restaurant, as a quality inspector in automotive industry, and housekeeping in a hotel. It's something but none of those jobs pay well..

 

[noxu77]

Here is the ChatGPT response to your original post:

Here is the ChatGPT response to your original post:

"While it's commendable that you want to share your perspective and offer support to those who may be struggling, there are a few issues with the approach and language used in your message:

Assumptions and generalizations: You make assumptions about the experiences and perspectives of the people you're addressing. You assume that they haven't experienced the broader world or achieved their dreams, which may not be accurate for everyone. It's important to approach conversations with empathy and without making assumptions about others' circumstances.

Oversimplification of mental health struggles: Depression and other mental health conditions are complex and not easily overcome by simply pushing oneself outside of their comfort zone or trying new experiences. It's important to acknowledge the complexity of mental health and the need for professional help, such as therapy or medication, for many individuals.

Minimizing the impact of personal struggles: While encouraging people to explore and find meaning in life is positive, it's crucial to recognize that each person's struggles and challenges are unique. Saying things like "why not live a little longer" or "don't end it because you're oblivious to the outer sections" can come across as dismissive or invalidating of their pain and emotions.

Lack of awareness of individual circumstances: You mention your own experiences and the success stories of people you know, but it's important to remember that everyone's circumstances and opportunities are different. Not everyone has access to the same resources, support systems, or opportunities, so it's not always as simple as "finding passion in life again" or "getting back on track."

In summary, it's important to approach discussions about mental health and life struggles with empathy, understanding, and a recognition of the complexities involved. Encouraging open dialogue and offering support is valuable, but it's essential to be mindful of the language used and avoid oversimplifications or dismissals of others' experiences."

As an IT lover maybe you could check with ChatGPT if you're providing any help before you write on here.

Thanks for the reply. I see where you're coming from and I totally agree ,talking about mental health needs to be done carefully . I've been through depression myself and only wanted to share my own experiences, not dismiss or simplify anyone else's. I'll be more careful with my words next time. I'm all for understanding each other's individual situations and complexities. Apologies if I missed the mark before.

 

[ShadowSleeper]

Thanks for the reply. I see where you're coming from and I totally agree ,talking about mental health needs to be done carefully . I've been through depression myself and only wanted to share my own experiences, not dismiss or simplify anyone else's. I'll be more careful with my words next time. I'm all for understanding each other's individual situations and complexities. Apologies if I missed the mark before.

We are human. I'm not taking anything personally. Anything you have said to me is still nicer than what I've dealt with from some people

 

[noxu77]

The only jobs I ever worked were as a teen. I worked at a gas station, a restaurant, as a quality inspector in automotive industry, and housekeeping in a hotel. It's something but none of those jobs pay well..

The only jobs I ever worked were as a teen. I worked at a gas station, a restaurant, as a quality inspector in automotive industry, and housekeeping in a hotel. It's something but none of those jobs pay well..

How do you feel about healthcare, such as working in nursing homes? My mother worked at Guardian Angel and has substantial experience in that field she was even asked to open up her own nursing home. She was earning about £300 per night, which is roughly $410. you most likely wont make that much but more like 200 per night I can help you get into that field. She can even provide a reference for you, and we can say we've known you for years, so there's no need to worry. To save the money you earn, I can teach you some strategies. I can even help create your CV or guide you to a place where you can make it as professional as possible, leveraging everything you have. or something else up to you. ill help you evade taxes if you want

 

[ShadowSleeper]

How do you feel about healthcare, such as working in nursing homes? My mother worked at Guardian Angel and has substantial experience in that field. She was earning about £300 per night, which is roughly $410. I can help you get into that field. She can even provide a reference for you, and we can say we've known you for years, so there's no need to worry. To save the money you earn, I can teach you some strategies. I can even help create your CV or guide you to a place where you can make it as professional as possible, leveraging everything you have. or something else up to you.

Don't you have to have certification for that? I think I could do it tho. I love listening to old peoples stories and I think I would do well in a field of caring for others. I just can't stick people with needles and stuff. I mean if you think you could actually help me that would be great because the real thing holding me back in life is financial. Most people by my age have a career or have been in college and about to start one I'm going in the world at 30 doing what I should have after I turned 18

 

[noxu77]

Don't you have to have certification for that? I think I could do it tho. I love listening to old peoples stories and I think I would do well in a field of caring for others. I just can't stick people with needles and stuff. I mean if you think you could actually help me that would be great because the real thing holding me back in life is financial. Most people by my age have a career or have been in college and about to start one I'm going in the world at 30 doing what I should have after I turned 18

My mother also started kind of old too, and yes, you do. They usually require you to complete some courses, which take about a week online, before you are allowed to work. It's free, of course. If you want to pursue it, I can ask my mother to create an ref for you. I can also try to get the business to endorse you as a reference. However, since the branch here is different, we will have to see. Having a reference is a good start.

 

[ShadowSleeper]

Well your mother is a very strong woman. Thing is I can't leave til I get to where I can financially. So I'm trying to build up myself while constantly being put down and told I can't survive. My spouse is emotionally/mentally abusive to me..and that's part of why I am where I am psychologically.

my mother started kind of old too , and yes you do they normally make you do some courses etc take about a week online then you are allowed to work . free ofc

 

[noxu77]

Well your mother is a very strong woman. Thing is I can't leave til I get to where I can financially. So I'm trying to build up myself while constantly being put down and told I can't survive. My spouse is emotionally/mentally abusive to me..and that's part of why I am where I am psychologically.

Yeah, they are weak people who prey on others. People like that wouldn't even come close to making the same contribution as those who are willing to get up and work hard. Anyway, you will need a temporary job, right? It doesn't have to pay a lot; we just need to get everything set up. If you don't have a laptop or something, you can go to a library when you're free and work on it secretly. if you cant , I think we can figure out a way for you to work from home if you can't leave. I can try to rent you a computer for that purpose, but I'll need to look into it. You don't have to tell me where you live; just let me know the area where you want to pick it up and a time frame . I cashed out around £3k from my investments, so I can probably rent it for 1 to 2 months. and it doesnt matter what job like fast food ect oh yea a trick my mother did was gain a ego

I can't message you as you have to have a certain amount of posts here to DM people, but I would be interested in talking to you about your methods for guiding people and beliefs on life's fulfillment.

sure what would you like to know and just a general grasp on what i do is i help people go into one of those fields real estate ,construction ,import -export ,lorry's (rare you need to be different breed to do this) and since i and my family really don't like the government you could say we lower our tax liability and i willing to teach you how i just give you a plan i would do in your situation and you can just follow it i also give you ways save and compound what you make into more for you to do everything you want to ! only thing i need to know is your age range ( so i can get a more tailored response using family members of the save age range ) and for beliefs i would need to know you first as my friend i talked with him for a long time to help him find his which im willing to do ! i dont give up on people just a enquiry do you have snap ,discord , Instagram or anything like that ?. if you want to still talk here im willing to !

 

[ShadowSleeper]

Yeah, they are weak people who prey on others. People like that wouldn't even come close to making the same contribution as those who are willing to get up and work hard. Anyway, you will need a temporary job, right? It doesn't have to pay a lot; we just need to get everything set up. If you don't have a laptop or something, you can go to a library when you're free and work on it secretly. if you cant , I think we can figure out a way for you to work from home if you can't leave. I can try to rent you a computer for that purpose, but I'll need to look into it. You don't have to tell me where you live; just let me know the area where you want to pick it up and a time frame . I cashed out around £3k from my investments, so I can probably rent it for 1 to 2 months. and it doesnt matter what job like fast food ect

sure what would you like to know and just a general grasp on what i do is i help people go into one of those fields real estate ,construction ,import -export ,lorry's (rare you need to be different breed to do this) and since i and my family really don't like the government you could say we lower our tax liability and i willing to teach you how i just give you a plan i would do in your situation and you can just follow it i also give you ways save and compound what you make into more for you to do everything you want to ! only thing i need to know is your age range ( so i can get a more tailored response using family members of the save age range ) and for beliefs i would need to know you first as my friend i talked with him for a long time to help him find his which im willing to do ! i dont give up on people just a enquiry do you have snap ,discord , Instagram or anything like that ?. if you want to still talk here im willing to !

I do have a computer. I think we should probably continue all this privately tho as I'm not really wanting to put too much more info about me out here just now…I guess u can PM me? Idk if I can do that but I do have discord