TAW122
Emissary of the right to die.
- Aug 30, 2018
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There are various threads in the past on SaSu that talked about debunking popular Hollywood myths when it comes to method efficacy and what not. However, a recent thought I had as well as my personal stance on the matter, I thought I'd bring it up as a thread for discussion.
What do I mean by correcting mainstream bias on method efficacy? I'm referring to how most mainstream media and most normies (those who aren't on SaSu or even done their research and instead just accept whatever myth, Hollywood perception, or wrong information on the efficacy of various methods) take the information that is often incorrect and wrong and assume it to be true. There are times in my life where I overheard a conversation about people who talk about CTB or so, particularly when it comes to method discussion and knowing that I did not want to appear too knowledgeable for obvious reasons, I refrained from saying anything. Again, I wasn't a part of the conversation, but merely overheard the others' conversations or so.
One example was at a workplace lunch (at a former workplace, like over 5 years ago or so), I heard my workmates/coworkers talking about CTB, whether it is related to a movie or whether in real life and one of the persons in the conversation said "I wouldn't CTB via firearm, too afraid to mess it up and end up a vegetable", which technically is true if done wrong (either by the wrong caliber, wrong firearm, or even shot placement, and more), but I pretended not to hear that or even interact and just ate my food. I did not say much and mainly remained silent to avoid being helpful (and thus setting a target or red flag), but also I did not want to raise attention for social or even legal reasons (especially IRL) when discussing specifics about method efficacy, even if I knew it.
Another example was overhearing about people talking about how some people died as a result of OD'ing or what not (just in day to day conversations in public, not at a workplace but elsewhere), and that it was OTC medications that caused it. While not entirely wrong, it is still generally incorrect as someone who has done research and also been a part of SaSu along with being knowledgeable about method efficacy, I again do not speak up or try to correct them (for obvious reasons once again). I know that ODs in general have low success rate (unless talking about specific opioids and/or other substances, and even then, for reliability, it still requires planning, the right drug and right strength and quantity in order to be effective) and just quietly knew they were wrong. As a result, perhaps the "ignorance is bliss" on the topic of CTB methods and it's efficacies are probably for the best and maybe it's better for them, the normies to not know the real information?
So in conclusion, this thread is about whether or not it is better to educate or correct normies or those who are not well-versed in CTB method efficacies or held Hollywood related biases, prejudices, or myths about the methods in use. While I know I myself would choose to go the "ignorance is bliss" route (not out of spite but out of protection or safety for myself, avoiding liability both legally and socially, not to set off red flags, etc.), do you all feel similarly or the same?
What do I mean by correcting mainstream bias on method efficacy? I'm referring to how most mainstream media and most normies (those who aren't on SaSu or even done their research and instead just accept whatever myth, Hollywood perception, or wrong information on the efficacy of various methods) take the information that is often incorrect and wrong and assume it to be true. There are times in my life where I overheard a conversation about people who talk about CTB or so, particularly when it comes to method discussion and knowing that I did not want to appear too knowledgeable for obvious reasons, I refrained from saying anything. Again, I wasn't a part of the conversation, but merely overheard the others' conversations or so.
One example was at a workplace lunch (at a former workplace, like over 5 years ago or so), I heard my workmates/coworkers talking about CTB, whether it is related to a movie or whether in real life and one of the persons in the conversation said "I wouldn't CTB via firearm, too afraid to mess it up and end up a vegetable", which technically is true if done wrong (either by the wrong caliber, wrong firearm, or even shot placement, and more), but I pretended not to hear that or even interact and just ate my food. I did not say much and mainly remained silent to avoid being helpful (and thus setting a target or red flag), but also I did not want to raise attention for social or even legal reasons (especially IRL) when discussing specifics about method efficacy, even if I knew it.
Another example was overhearing about people talking about how some people died as a result of OD'ing or what not (just in day to day conversations in public, not at a workplace but elsewhere), and that it was OTC medications that caused it. While not entirely wrong, it is still generally incorrect as someone who has done research and also been a part of SaSu along with being knowledgeable about method efficacy, I again do not speak up or try to correct them (for obvious reasons once again). I know that ODs in general have low success rate (unless talking about specific opioids and/or other substances, and even then, for reliability, it still requires planning, the right drug and right strength and quantity in order to be effective) and just quietly knew they were wrong. As a result, perhaps the "ignorance is bliss" on the topic of CTB methods and it's efficacies are probably for the best and maybe it's better for them, the normies to not know the real information?
So in conclusion, this thread is about whether or not it is better to educate or correct normies or those who are not well-versed in CTB method efficacies or held Hollywood related biases, prejudices, or myths about the methods in use. While I know I myself would choose to go the "ignorance is bliss" route (not out of spite but out of protection or safety for myself, avoiding liability both legally and socially, not to set off red flags, etc.), do you all feel similarly or the same?
