Making N

[Mgsmid]

So I ordered all the supplies to make N at home. I'm confused about the malonic acid. The instructions aren't clear about how to add it. It says to put it into a steel cup and put the cup into the cookpot? I assume that means add it to the mix but I'm not sure. Anyone have any experience making N ?

 

[Rachel74]

So I ordered all the supplies to make N at home. I'm confused about the malonic acid. The instructions aren't clear about how to add it. It says to put it into a steel cup and put the cup into the cookpot? I assume that means add it to the mix but I'm not sure. Anyone have any experience making N ?

I didn't know you could make N. How are you doing and what are you using, would be amazing for us on here if this works.
Googled it and can't find anything to support this but then again I'm no scientist. Did read about barbiturate acid that is used in phenobarbital. Not sure if that's what you mean.

 

[Mgsmid]

There's a Amazon kindle book for 5 bucks. But it's only three pages long. And there's a post here online if you Google how to make " " so the description is poor but it seems easy to make I bought everything online for about 250 credit card of course

 

[GeorgeJL]

I don't know if this is two recipes or one. It's been a while since I got this information. While back there was someone on youtube that said he would help anyone make it for a fee. Unfortunately I don't have that information anymore. I'm sure there channel got taken down by now.

This is the recipe for it:

Equipment
-hotplate
-stainless steel cup
-small cooking pot
-thermometer
-clamp-stand
-filter
-stainless steel stir rod

Reagents
-26.7 g of clean metallic sodium
-400 g of anhydrous (dry) Ethanol
-32.7g of Urea, molecular biology grade, CH4N2O, FW=60 g/mol
-Solution of 100 g of 1-methyl butyl-ethyl malonic ester(Propanedioic acid)
-Water

PROCEDURE
1) A hotplate was rested on the base of a clampstand. A cooking pot containing 400 g of anhydrous (dry) ethanol (compare 400 g of anhydrous (dry) ethanol)is placed on the hotplate stirrer and 26.7g of clean metallic sodium (compare 26.7 g of clean metallic sodium) is dissolved in it.

2) Into the stainless steel cup there is placed a Solution of 100 g of 1-methyl butyl-ethyl malonic ester(Propanedioic acid). (compare 100 g of 1-methyl butyl-ethyl malonic ester and 37.2 g of dry urea is added.) The cup is then placed into the small cooking pot containing a mixture of the Ethanol and Sodium and secured with clamps to the clamp stand. The end of the thermometer is placed in the pot and positioned as close to the cup as possible.

3) It is warmed to a temperature of 170°C for 10 minutes to remove any residual moisture. Throughout the reaction the temperature of the mixture is kept at 170°C and stirring is done frequently.

4) 10.9 g of urea is added slowly, one scoop at a time and with good stirring. During this moisture (water) formed making the mixture damp. Over the course of 20 minutes the mixture gradually dries out and the amount of released gas lessens.

5) Another 10.9 g of urea is added and allowed to react for 35 minutes.

6) The last 10.9 g of urea is added and allowed to react for 30 minutes.

7) After adding the total amount of urea over 1h 25 min, the mixture is dry, contained yellow and off-yellow-to-white granules, and still damp with the water and alcohol. The product is then heated at a temperature of 280°C directly on the hotplate for 1h 20mins. During this process the mixture is stirred every 15 minutes and off-yellow-to-white granules became more prominent and as yellow ones lessened. The precipitated product is washed with cold water , filtered and heated again for about 40 minutes at a temperature of 127-130°C until all the water is removed and the white powder(Nembutal Sodium) is formed .

8) The Nembutal Sodium is allowed to cool and weighed. Yield is 23g. The product is 95-99% pure. You can also use a test kit to Check the purity

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Pentobarbitone. (Called Nembutal or Pentobarbital.) 26.7 g of clean metallic sodium are dissolved in 400 g of anhydrous (dry) ethanol. To this, a solution of 100 g of 1-methyl butyl-ethyl malonic ester and 37.2 g of dry urea is added. The mixture is heated for 4 to 6 hours in an autoclave, or refluxed for 20 to 40 hours. The alcohol is then removed by distillation. The residue is dissolved in water and this aqueous solution is acidified with hydrochloric acid. The precipitated product is filtered, washed with cold water, and recrystallized from boiling water. Yield: depends on your ability to exclude H2O from the beginning of the reaction, mp: 127-130°C.

Cost
26.7 g of clean metallic sodium - Sodium metal 15g $24
400 g of anhydrous (dry) ethanol
100 g of 1-methyl butyl-ethyl malonic ester
37.2 g of dry urea
hydrochloric acid
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pressure 150 kpa, Temp 85 degree after an hour of

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[Rachel74]

I found two recipes for making it. They both differ. I have some notes too. I know a while back there was someone on youtube that said he would help anyone make it for a fee. Unfortunately I don't have that information anymore. I'm sure there channel got taken down by now.

This is the recipe for it:

Equipment
-hotplate
-stainless steel cup
-small cooking pot
-thermometer
-clamp-stand
-filter
-stainless steel stir rod

Reagents
-26.7 g of clean metallic sodium
-400 g of anhydrous (dry) Ethanol
-32.7g of Urea, molecular biology grade, CH4N2O, FW=60 g/mol
-Solution of 100 g of 1-methyl butyl-ethyl malonic ester(Propanedioic acid)
-Water

PROCEDURE
1) A hotplate was rested on the base of a clampstand. A cooking pot containing 400 g of anhydrous (dry) ethanol (compare 400 g of anhydrous (dry) ethanol)is placed on the hotplate stirrer and 26.7g of clean metallic sodium (compare 26.7 g of clean metallic sodium) is dissolved in it.

2) Into the stainless steel cup there is placed a Solution of 100 g of 1-methyl butyl-ethyl malonic ester(Propanedioic acid). (compare 100 g of 1-methyl butyl-ethyl malonic ester and 37.2 g of dry urea is added.) The cup is then placed into the small cooking pot containing a mixture of the Ethanol and Sodium and secured with clamps to the clamp stand. The end of the thermometer is placed in the pot and positioned as close to the cup as possible.

3) It is warmed to a temperature of 170°C for 10 minutes to remove any residual moisture. Throughout the reaction the temperature of the mixture is kept at 170°C and stirring is done frequently.

4) 10.9 g of urea is added slowly, one scoop at a time and with good stirring. During this moisture (water) formed making the mixture damp. Over the course of 20 minutes the mixture gradually dries out and the amount of released gas lessens.

5) Another 10.9 g of urea is added and allowed to react for 35 minutes.

6) The last 10.9 g of urea is added and allowed to react for 30 minutes.

7) After adding the total amount of urea over 1h 25 min, the mixture is dry, contained yellow and off-yellow-to-white granules, and still damp with the water and alcohol. The product is then heated at a temperature of 280°C directly on the hotplate for 1h 20mins. During this process the mixture is stirred every 15 minutes and off-yellow-to-white granules became more prominent and as yellow ones lessened. The precipitated product is washed with cold water , filtered and heated again for about 40 minutes at a temperature of 127-130°C until all the water is removed and the white powder(Nembutal Sodium) is formed .

8) The Nembutal Sodium is allowed to cool and weighed. Yield is 23g. The product is 95-99% pure. You can also use a test kit to Check the purity

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Pentobarbitone. (Called Nembutal or Pentobarbital.) 26.7 g of clean metallic sodium are dissolved in 400 g of anhydrous (dry) ethanol. To this, a solution of 100 g of 1-methyl butyl-ethyl malonic ester and 37.2 g of dry urea is added. The mixture is heated for 4 to 6 hours in an autoclave, or refluxed for 20 to 40 hours. The alcohol is then removed by distillation. The residue is dissolved in water and this aqueous solution is acidified with hydrochloric acid. The precipitated product is filtered, washed with cold water, and recrystallized from boiling water. Yield: depends on your ability to exclude H2O from the beginning of the reaction, mp: 127-130°C.

Cost
26.7 g of clean metallic sodium - Sodium metal 15g $24
400 g of anhydrous (dry) ethanol
100 g of 1-methyl butyl-ethyl malonic ester
37.2 g of dry urea
hydrochloric acid
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pressure 150 kpa, Temp 85 degree after an hour of

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Thank you

 

[Mgsmid]

If I just run it through a coffee filter , do you think that will work?

 

[NextBusLeaving]

Interesting!

 

[durba1]

How is it possible to get those ingredients?

 

[woxihuanni]

Hmm, I know that in Australia a bunch of people supposedly cooked N, but I also remember somebody saying it'd take a complicated lab to cook it and that's why it was not made underground in many countries to avoid customs problems. I admire you a lot for actually getting down to it.

Especially when I cannot even find it in me to cook breakfast.

 

[Meretlein]

I don't know if this is two recipes or one. It's been a while since I got this information. While back there was someone on youtube that said he would help anyone make it for a fee. Unfortunately I don't have that information anymore. I'm sure there channel got taken down by now.

This is the recipe for it:

Equipment
-hotplate
-stainless steel cup
-small cooking pot
-thermometer
-clamp-stand
-filter
-stainless steel stir rod

Reagents
-26.7 g of clean metallic sodium
-400 g of anhydrous (dry) Ethanol
-32.7g of Urea, molecular biology grade, CH4N2O, FW=60 g/mol
-Solution of 100 g of 1-methyl butyl-ethyl malonic ester(Propanedioic acid)
-Water

PROCEDURE
1) A hotplate was rested on the base of a clampstand. A cooking pot containing 400 g of anhydrous (dry) ethanol (compare 400 g of anhydrous (dry) ethanol)is placed on the hotplate stirrer and 26.7g of clean metallic sodium (compare 26.7 g of clean metallic sodium) is dissolved in it.

2) Into the stainless steel cup there is placed a Solution of 100 g of 1-methyl butyl-ethyl malonic ester(Propanedioic acid). (compare 100 g of 1-methyl butyl-ethyl malonic ester and 37.2 g of dry urea is added.) The cup is then placed into the small cooking pot containing a mixture of the Ethanol and Sodium and secured with clamps to the clamp stand. The end of the thermometer is placed in the pot and positioned as close to the cup as possible.

3) It is warmed to a temperature of 170°C for 10 minutes to remove any residual moisture. Throughout the reaction the temperature of the mixture is kept at 170°C and stirring is done frequently.

4) 10.9 g of urea is added slowly, one scoop at a time and with good stirring. During this moisture (water) formed making the mixture damp. Over the course of 20 minutes the mixture gradually dries out and the amount of released gas lessens.

5) Another 10.9 g of urea is added and allowed to react for 35 minutes.

6) The last 10.9 g of urea is added and allowed to react for 30 minutes.

7) After adding the total amount of urea over 1h 25 min, the mixture is dry, contained yellow and off-yellow-to-white granules, and still damp with the water and alcohol. The product is then heated at a temperature of 280°C directly on the hotplate for 1h 20mins. During this process the mixture is stirred every 15 minutes and off-yellow-to-white granules became more prominent and as yellow ones lessened. The precipitated product is washed with cold water , filtered and heated again for about 40 minutes at a temperature of 127-130°C until all the water is removed and the white powder(Nembutal Sodium) is formed .

8) The Nembutal Sodium is allowed to cool and weighed. Yield is 23g. The product is 95-99% pure. You can also use a test kit to Check the purity

------------------------------------------

Pentobarbitone. (Called Nembutal or Pentobarbital.) 26.7 g of clean metallic sodium are dissolved in 400 g of anhydrous (dry) ethanol. To this, a solution of 100 g of 1-methyl butyl-ethyl malonic ester and 37.2 g of dry urea is added. The mixture is heated for 4 to 6 hours in an autoclave, or refluxed for 20 to 40 hours. The alcohol is then removed by distillation. The residue is dissolved in water and this aqueous solution is acidified with hydrochloric acid. The precipitated product is filtered, washed with cold water, and recrystallized from boiling water. Yield: depends on your ability to exclude H2O from the beginning of the reaction, mp: 127-130°C.

Cost
26.7 g of clean metallic sodium - Sodium metal 15g $24
400 g of anhydrous (dry) ethanol
100 g of 1-methyl butyl-ethyl malonic ester
37.2 g of dry urea
hydrochloric acid
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

pressure 150 kpa, Temp 85 degree after an hour of

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People should be aware that this recipe requires a reflux flask (or autoclave) for the reaction to take place. I don't know if it that can be substituted with kitchen supplies. If it can be, you would be getting some low quality N.

 

[gingerplum]

People should be aware that this recipe requires a reflux flask (or autoclave) for the reaction to take place. I don't know if it that can be substituted with kitchen supplies. If it can be, you would be getting some low quality N.

People should be aware that this is a recipe requiring a technical skill level that would impress Walter fucking White. I can't imagine even attempting this, unless you feel competent with organic-level chemistry lab skills. Hats off to anyone who attempts this, but I'm skeptical about rates of success.