local train suicide

[lookin4areason]

so Thursday night a train in my town was stopped for several hours and all emergency personnel were on the scene of an accident involving a pedestrian. people in the local chats were saying it was a suicide, but the cops officially announced it as an accident. however, it really was a suicide. a relative of mine is a friend of a firefighter that was on the gruesome scene and it was a teenager that was laying on the tracks. his body ended up in 3 pieces and was a horrific scene. I haven't been able to stop thinking about it, like it affects me somehow and I don't really know why other than the fact that I understand it. and having lived with this for 30 years it's not something i'd wish upon anyone and it makes me sad, I even said a prayer for the kid. it's definitely not the method i'd choose, that is really a horrifying scene. but the intent I get. and a part of me is actually envious that he had the courage to do it, while I've been stuck for 30yrs with all these feelings and thoughts and plans but being a fucking coward to DO it. how fucked up is that that i'd be envious of such a sad situation?
I wonder if it's because of the recent situations with covid shit or if it's something he felt long before. may he now be at peace.

 

[theguineapigking]

I completely understand. As sad and horrible as that situation was, you kind of envy him, because you want what he got. It's not f'd up at all. It really isn't.

You're not a coward for not ending your life!!! Killing yourself is really hard. It takes immense courage, whether that be to kill yourself, or to continue living despite being in pain every day. You're strong. Don't feel bad. Death is very scary to many people, although exciting as well, because it could be an end to this pain. Ending your life is the biggest decision of your life, LITERALLY.

When I hear of people using sn on here, I get really jealous. I just kind of wish 'it could've been me'. If only I could do what that other person had the courage to do. So I definitely relate to you. I think most of us here can as well.
Remember that you're not alone in feeling that way. Many people envy those who took sn(and succeeded).

Best wishes man.

 

[mrbombastic]

Its obviously an extremely sad situation, for the both the boy and his family, but its completely normal that you would envy him.
I don't believe that you are coward, either. SI is extremely difficult to overcome, and I believe that to some degree it is helpful. SI makes us think before we act, about the consequences our actions will have on ourselves and others.

 

[TheGoodGuy]

That is why you don´t jump in front of the train you choose train decapitation if you use the train method there are several videos on the internet of people being cut in half and still alive untill they die from the injury, so cutting youself in half is just stupid way to go and so is jumping in front of the train but you said the teenager was in 3 peices so maybe he died instantly.

 

[mathieu]

I'm always envious when I hear of a suicide. Sad for their pain too.

 

[rhiino]

SI makes us think before we act, about the consequences our actions will have on ourselves and others.

I think SI makes us act before we think, act in order to survive, although we do not want that when we think about.

 

[Vault of Memories]

That is why you don´t jump in front of the train you choose train decapitation if you use the train method there are several videos on the internet of people being cut in half and still alive untill they die from the injury, so cutting youself in half is just stupid way to go and so is jumping in front of the train but you said the teenager was in 3 peices so maybe he died instantly.

Guess it's just my personal opinion, that I've seen not a lot of people seem to agree on, but I'd try to avoid the train method at all if necessary. No need for the driver to blame themselves. Of course I've seen a guy on here post about planning on doing suicide by driving into oncoming traffic which is far worse in comparison. Still as hypocritical as it may seem as I plan on taking my life, I don't want to come off as encouraging one to take theirs. However, if you do I'd recommend finding a different method.

 

[TheGoodGuy]

Guess it's just my personal opinion, that I've seen not a lot of people seem to agree on, but I'd try to avoid the train method at all if necessary. No need for the driver to blame themselves. Of course I've seen a guy on here post about planning on doing suicide by driving into oncoming traffic which is far worse in comparison. Still as hypocritical as it may seem as I plan on taking my life, I don't want to come off as encouraging one to take theirs. However, if you do I'd recommend finding a different method.

Train isn´t my chosen method either gun or partial but if I chose train I wouldn´t feel sorry for the driver because it´s the governments fault people need to result to such methods because euthanasia isn´t legal and most likely the train driver is a believer in politics and is a pro-lifer I am sure so is an accesory to keeping euthanasia banned.

 

[autumnal]

Train isn´t my chosen method either gun or partial but if I chose train I wouldn´t feel sorry for the driver because it´s the governments fault people need to result to such methods because euthanasia isn´t legal and most likely the train driver is a believer in politics and is a pro-lifer I am sure so is an accesory to keeping euthanasia banned.

That is some pretty selfish reasoning, as well as being completely illogical.

 

[TheGoodGuy]

That is some pretty selfish reasoning, as well as being completely illogical.

It´s only illogical to you because you don´t understand it.

I never consented to euthanasia drugs and all other drugs for that manner are illegal it´s the sheep of society that does nothing about the problem and even praising their oppressors (the government) for well oppressing them and these sheep of society vote at least most adults do so they are just voting for who they want to oppress them for x amount of years we don´t have freedom we have what I call a plural dictatorship so instead of one dictator there are a couple hundred elected ones in congress who make laws to millions of people who never consented to them.

So in short I don´t care about the train driver or people who are going to find a suicidal persons body even gruesome ones like the train method or suicide jump because it´s these very people´s fault that they keep voting to keep us oppressed.

 

[FluffyDove]

I almost admire people who have the balls to go for methods like this, they are so brave, then I feel incredibly sad for them as they must have felt so desperate. I hope this person is at peace.

 

[Vault of Memories]

Train isn´t my chosen method either gun or partial but if I chose train I wouldn´t feel sorry for the driver because it´s the governments fault people need to result to such methods because euthanasia isn´t legal and most likely the train driver is a believer in politics and is a pro-lifer I am sure so is an accesory to keeping euthanasia banned.

It's the governments fault because you can't peacefully kill yourself with Nembutal, okay. Got it. Therefore you feel no sympathy for the train driver, because the government doesn't want people killing themselves and have some professionals that believe it or not actually want to help people suffering from suicidal thoughts.
So your thought process is that you don't give a shit if the train driver suffers extreme PTSD to the point of feeling who knows, maybe as shitty as you do?
Not only is you reasoning completely illogical, but the way you represented it by saying "I wouldn't feel sorry for the driver" and then blame you lack of sympathy on the government makes you come off as a complete ass.

Edit: Pretty sure I've had this argument with you before and it's so strange to me that people suffering to the point that they feel the need to take their lives can be so uncaring about causing life lasting trauma for others.

 

[TheGoodGuy]

Edit: Pretty sure I've had this argument with you before and it's so strange to me that people suffering to the point that they feel the need to take their lives can be so uncaring about causing life lasting trauma for others.

It´s because I am a misanthrope, humans are a decease to this planet, ruining it by mining, pollution and killing animals who they deem a nuisance to them and has even enslaved several species for their meat production and there is nothing more insane than to artificially impregnate an animal for the sole purpose of breeding it´s baby to eat later it is essentially the animal holocoast, they live in horrible conditions when they should be free, I have nothing against hunting since it´s the most natural thing ever the animal will also have lived a free life and die near instantly.

Humans also don´t see a problem with our insane behavior, they have put themselves on a pedestal and all other life is beneath them to be able to build the Utopia of the modern world and we have there are now too many humans for this world it´s not like everyone could go out and hunt there wouldn´t be enough yet people claim that there is enough room on the planet for more humans and yes but at the cost of more animal homes to be destroyed to make room for the "superior" species.

And what does all of this have to do with your post? That so the train driver might get PTSD but keep in mind that he, you and also myself are contributing to the aformentioned text, we are literally the monsters of this world and there are plenty documentaries to show our true nature so how can monsters who do all these horrible things be concerned that a train driver MIGHT get PTSD? Keep in mind we are all supporting the killing of forests/jungles and animals by purchasing their products if nobody bought them all the cruelty would stop people just don´t see how much impact they have on the world because all the cruelty is hidden away; you don´t see the palm oil in your products has destroyed jungles and therefore killed many animals in the process mostly known the Orangutang that is close to extinction or the meat in the grocery store was a living being confined in horrible conditions some even forcefed to grow larger i.e. torture no they are just a product to humans.

And it´s not like I don´t have compassion or empathy if you just look at my recent posts you will see that I have said several times that when a person says goodbye on here I say "I hope it will be painless" because I don´t like anyone to suffer, that is also why I am quick to say to people in these train threads to use train decapitation because it´s painless and from your point of view it would also be better for the driver instead of seeing a body explode in front of him, I think there are even rules about how they have to stay inside the train if they hit a person for the reason not to be traumatized so by my help by saying people should use train decapitation the driver won´t likely see anything of the gore only know what he did.

 

[Vault of Memories]

It´s because I am a misanthrope, humans are a decease to this planet, ruining it by mining, pollution and killing animals who they deem a nuisance to them and has even enslaved several species for their meat production and there is nothing more insane than to artificially impregnate an animal for the sole purpose of breeding it´s baby to eat later it is essentially the animal holocoast, they live in horrible conditions when they should be free, I have nothing against hunting since it´s the most natural thing ever the animal will also have lived a free life and die near instantly.

Humans also don´t see a problem with our insane behavior, they have put themselves on a pedestal and all other life is beneath them to be able to build the Utopia of the modern world and we have there are now too many humans for this world it´s not like everyone could go out and hunt there wouldn´t be enough yet people claim that there is enough room on the planet for more humans and yes but at the cost of more animal homes to be destroyed to make room for the "superior" species.

And what does all of this have to do with your post? That so the train driver might get PTSD but keep in mind that he, you and also myself are contributing to the aformentioned text, we are literally the monsters of this world and there are plenty documentaries to show our true nature so how can monsters who do all these horrible things be concerned that a train driver MIGHT get PTSD? Keep in mind we are all supporting the killing of forests/jungles and animals by purchasing their products if nobody bought them all the cruelty would stop people just don´t see how much impact they have on the world because all the cruelty is hidden away; you don´t see the palm oil in your products has destroyed jungles and therefore killed many animals in the process mostly known the Orangutang that is close to extinction or the meat in the grocery store was a living being confined in horrible conditions some even forcefed to grow larger i.e. torture no they are just a product to humans.

And it´s not like I don´t have compassion or empathy if you just look at my recent posts you will see that I have said several times that when a person says goodbye on here I say "I hope it will be painless" because I don´t like anyone to suffer, that is also why I am quick to say to people in these train threads to use train decapitation because it´s painless and from your point of view it would also be better for the driver instead of seeing a body explode in front of him, I think there are even rules about how they have to stay inside the train if they hit a person for the reason not to be traumatized so by my help by saying people should use train decapitation the driver won´t likely see anything of the gore only know what he did.

I'm assuming you meant humans are a disease and not decease, but if you truly are a misanthrope and understand the meaning than are you not satisfied when we decide to off ourselves? Some humans are sick, I agree on that and the lack of empathy you're showing towards this hypothetical train driver certainly says something about you. I don't know what kind of a shell you've been living in, but you use the term humans as if it's a personality. Look at us, we're arguing over morals, which you don't seem to obviously give a shit about. We may both be humans, but I'm nothing like you. The fact that you can just blame whatever fucked up shit you're for and then somehow form an irrelevant fallacy trying to blame it on the government shows the compassion you have.

 

[Alec]

The teenager sounds like an extremely brave person. I'm envious of him too, however fucked up that may be to be envious of something so gruesome. But it's not the gory part I want it's what comes after, what it brings, so it different than wanting the turnen todo being shredded into pieces. I'm so so so sorry for his pain and for the physical pain he had to go through to cross the line, I can't even imagine the terrifying thoughts racing through his head while trying to make himself do it. Such anguish, such profound pain. I'm so sorry, I don't think he deserved it. I wish we lived in the world where such misery didn't have a place. May he rest in piece, power, bravery. I hope he's ok wherever he is now and I hope he is feeling ok, or better than before.

I say "he" but that's only to help me write this, I don't know who the person is.

Nothing but love.

Love,
—Alec.

 

[autumnal]

It's the governments fault because you can't peacefully kill yourself with Nembutal, okay. Got it. Therefore you feel no sympathy for the train driver, because the government doesn't want people killing themselves and have some professionals that believe it or not actually want to help people suffering from suicidal thoughts.
So your thought process is that you don't give a shit if the train driver suffers extreme PTSD to the point of feeling who knows, maybe as shitty as you do?
Not only is you reasoning completely illogical, but the way you represented it by saying "I wouldn't feel sorry for the driver" and then blame you lack of sympathy on the government makes you come off as a complete ass.

Edit: Pretty sure I've had this argument with you before and it's so strange to me that people suffering to the point that they feel the need to take their lives can be so uncaring about causing life lasting trauma for others.

I think their self-label of 'misanthrope' is a vastly more polite word for describing @TheGoodGuy than I personally would have used, but I am mindful of the rules here. I'm going to assume their username is intended ironically.

I almost admire people who have the balls to go for methods like this, they are so brave, then I feel incredibly sad for them as they must have felt so desperate. I hope this person is at peace.

There is certainly bravery in terms of the facing the fear involved and the gruesomeness of the method. Not caring about the effect on the train driver, however, is the opposite of bravery and shows utter cowardice. Going even further and suggesting the train driver is somehow deserving of being traumatized is bordering on sociopathy, and please note that I use that here as a clinical term rather than as some kind of insult.

 

[Living sucks]

I am going to assume train drivers are given advance training, coping mechanisms and guidelines on Train suicides.
I'm not encouraging or saying it's ok... but it's a kinda common thing .. accidents also. And i hope if it happens that they are given mental health care after the fact. Like traumatized ems workers, military etc receive. (And I'm not saying it's good or bad care, not starting a debate on the kind of care).

 

[patheticpartner]

It´s only illogical to you because you don´t understand it.

I never consented to euthanasia drugs and all other drugs for that manner are illegal it´s the sheep of society that does nothing about the problem and even praising their oppressors (the government) for well oppressing them and these sheep of society vote at least most adults do so they are just voting for who they want to oppress them for x amount of years we don´t have freedom we have what I call a plural dictatorship so instead of one dictator there are a couple hundred elected ones in congress who make laws to millions of people who never consented to them.

So in short I don´t care about the train driver or people who are going to find a suicidal persons body even gruesome ones like the train method or suicide jump because it´s these very people´s fault that they keep voting to keep us oppressed.

That's your perogative, but personally I don't care if the person is a pro-life, repeat-offending, child molesting, rapist government worker. No one deserves to be scarred by being an involuntary witness and/or instrument to a random person's suicide. I also don't believe in suicide as a revenge or political tactic. I mean no disrespect, I just vehemently disagree with your position.

 

[I screwed up]

I see there are extreme views here both for and against the train suicide and its effects on drivers etc. But I am indifferent and rather prefer to think abt the poor soul who had to resort to such a painful & violent means to ctb. Just imagine his state of mind & of all those who resort to this method...hope they find the peace they looking for ... Also remember each if us here is not in the best place at the moment so we cannot be expected to think alike.

 

[Vault of Memories]

That's your perogative, but personally I don't care if the person is a pro-life, repeat-offending, child molesting, rapist government worker. No one deserves to be scarred by being an involuntary witness and/or instrument to a random person's suicide. I also don't believe in suicide as a revenge or political tactic. I mean no disrespect, I just vehemently disagree with your position.

Think we're on the same page. Though tbh, if the train driver was a child molester my views would be a bit different.

 

[InterstateFlowers]

Damn, that's tragic. I feel bad for everyone in that situation, it sucks to have to suffer after seeing that. It's hard to describe but I'm happy the kid achieved suicide but kind of depressing that the train driver and firefighter/paramedics/clean-up crew have to see that. I've never really thought about it before till I met this forum. Now that I'm thinking about it, train suicide isn't something I'd do no matter what because I don't want to hurt anyone involved. I'm already hurting my family by taking my life, it's just too cruel to me to hurt more people. I wouldn't stop someone from doing it, I'd just gently state my opinion and provide the help a person needs/wants.

It's the same thing with calling the police and asking them to pick up your body so your family doesn't see and shooting yourself while calling. My uncle is a retired police dispatcher who has PTSD and depression because of this. I know it's part of his job but it's just sad. I wish the government could provide paramedics/firefighters/police dispatchers free therapy because seeing horrible shit like that every day as part of your job is horrible no matter what but somebody has to do it. He told me the worst calls were the ones who shot themselves on the line and hearing them violently gurgling blood or moaning in pain.

If you're going to call the police so they can dispose of your body before your family finds out, tell them where you are and leave the call so police dispatch doesn't hear you shoot yourself. Typing it out, it sounds kind of cruel. But if you have humanity and empathy for your fellow human, it's the compassionate thing to do. At least, that's what I think.

 

[ForensicallyAware]

The thing to remember about railway suicide is that the person who does it may have been traveling by train anyway and decided to do it spur of the moment.

 

[ForensicallyAware]

Shocking announcement made by First Great Western after death on track

Passengers travelling on board a Great Western Train between Paddington in London and Plymouth were left stunned when a heartless announcement explaining how a suicide caused delays.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[StateOfMind]

That is why you don´t jump in front of the train you choose train decapitation if you use the train method there are several videos on the internet of people being cut in half and still alive untill they die from the injury, so cutting youself in half is just stupid way to go and so is jumping in front of the train but you said the teenager was in 3 peices so maybe he died instantly.

I don't know I feel like headbutting a train that's fast enough will also do the trick.

 

[rhiino]

But a blunt trauma is not reliable, you could always survive that.

 

[TheGoodGuy]

I don't know I feel like headbutting a train that's fast enough will also do the trick.

Still train decapitation is 100% effective no matter how slow the train goes where as with the headbutting you don´t know for sure the outcome, maybe the train will slow down, are you facing face first? If so you might only injury your frontal cortex essentially lobotomizing yourself, the train could also drag you under cutting you to pieces I have seen many videos of that happening.

I don´t get why people need to complicate methods so much when they can are just as successfull if not more another way.

 

[StateOfMind]

But a blunt trauma is not reliable, you could always survive that.

If the train is moving fast enough I don't see how that is possible.

 

[rhiino]

If it is fast enough, but then you have to be sure it is fast enough. Plus you might suffer a bit then. And you will splatter everywhere of course.

 

[Taraxias]

Usually trains when they arrive at train passing for cars they slow down pretty much and press the horn . if it as slow as i saw it some times headbutt cant secure death i think.

 

[ForensicallyAware]

On the London Underground it has become so common that some stations have put screens on the platforms
They have done this at Westminster Station which is the nearest to the Houses of Parliament