Discussion Literal cost of a suicide?

[MeltingHeart]

in a documentary (uk) it just that every single suicide has a societal cost if £1.6 million, how on earth do they calculate such a figure?!

 

[Soulless_Angel]

What docu is that out of interest?

I am gonna guess they are talking about services as well as anything personal? I know if you attempt they bring out every fucking emergency service then can including fire crew, ambulance, police, in my case armed police, as well as coast guard, if air ambulance on stand by I guess it all adds up!

 

[Brick In The Wall]

in a documentary (uk) it just that every single suicide has a societal cost if £1.6 million, how on earth do they calculate such a figure?!

That's a bunch of sensationalist crap honestly. Maybe total cost per year collectively. But no way it's per person. Even with a loss of tax revenue I still can't see it.

 

[56709]

Most (97%) of that loss is 'lost productivity'

Costs of Suicide | Suicide Prevention Resource Center

www.sprc.org

Original article:
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/sltb.12225

 

[Meretlein]

That's a bunch of sensationalist crap honestly. Maybe total cost per year collectively. But no way it's per person. Even with a loss of tax revenue I still can't see it.

"The average cost of one suicide was $1,329,553.
More than 97 percent of this cost was due to lost productivity. "

Costs of Suicide | Suicide Prevention Resource Center

www.sprc.org

It seems like they have also calculated lost productivity of grieving families? They linked the details of how it was calculated in the link I shared but I don't have the time to read it and summarize.

 

[MeltingHeart]

"The average cost of one suicide was $1,329,553.
More than 97 percent of this cost was due to lost productivity. "

Costs of Suicide | Suicide Prevention Resource Center

www.sprc.org

It seems like they have also calculated lost productivity of grieving families? They linked the details of how it was calculated in the link I shared but I don't have the time to read it and summarize.

seems pretty messed up to even include that statistic as part of a suicide prevntn doc-getting the daughter of the guy to narrate that fact!-like- dont kill yrself-the government will lose money- oh ok then-ive suddenly decided i should live after all!-id hate for soceity to have to incur such charges. Surely long term chronically depressed people must cost 'soceity' more anyways...

 

[Brick In The Wall]

"The average cost of one suicide was $1,329,553.
More than 97 percent of this cost was due to lost productivity. "

Costs of Suicide | Suicide Prevention Resource Center

www.sprc.org

It seems like they have also calculated lost productivity of grieving families? They linked the details of how it was calculated in the link I shared but I don't have the time to read it and summarize.

Does it really matter though? Money is fake, those numbers are fake, the economy is fake. You can't place a value on a human life.

To me even 1 tree is worth more then all the money that could possibly be created out of it. If there's ever a global catastrophe and all the rich people leave the planet I can almost guarantee they'd fill their rocket ships with useless currency instead of something that could actually keep them alive.

 

[MissNietzsche]

Most (97%) of that loss is 'lost productivity'

Costs of Suicide | Suicide Prevention Resource Center

www.sprc.org

Original article:
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/sltb.12225

this pisses me off omg

 

[zherhk]

Basically when someone dies 'prematurely' they are losing income from taxes and stuff but they can't say that.

 

[DeepSleep]

Shit, this modern day slavery is ethically worse than Ancient Rome or Egypt.

As if one slave ran away from his master and they would punish 10 other slaves for that.

 

[a.h]

That's so fucked up documentary. Elderly and chronically people's (who can never work) death saves money. There is no tax money to gain from them ever. Most people in this world have lost family and kept on working with few days off at most from it.

But what was the point of the documentary? To take freedom from people with less reasoning and lock them up so that they can't escape the slavery for the government?

Anyways all people suffer more if society sees money as the most important thing in life which is the case in most cultures in these days.

 

[Moonicide]

• The average cost of one suicide was $1,329,553.
• More than 97 percent of this cost was due to lost productivity. The remaining 3 percent were costs associated with medical treatment.
• The total cost of suicides and suicide attempts was $93.5 billion.
• Every $1.00 spent on psychotherapeutic interventions and interventions that strengthened linkages among different care providers saved $2.50 in the cost of suicides.

That's is beyond upsetting and ridiculous.

 

[a.h]

That is so sick! There would most likely not be much productivity from many of those who ctb but it's counted from the age of the deceased as if they must work to pay taxes 40h/week at least to make money to others.

But the whole concept is so sickening. Makes me hate this world even more. People are just slaves to make others rich by taxes and if they don't like it they must be brainwashed and made scared to leave.

Though it's no surprise since most media is complete shit and does only damage to societies. It's just talking bad, lieing and bullying others publicly. It makes me be ashamed to be a human. And the accepted and supported torture of animals and people makes me truelly hate big part of the world population.

 

[DoNotLet2]

When suicide is so expensive, why don't they, I don't know, just help us? Maybe instead of paying 1,3kk the government should pay 1,3k for a therapy? It's really ridiculous.

 

[Elias]

I promise I won't suicide temporarily if they give me 1.6 million. Pinky promise.

 

[Alec]

Basically when someone dies 'prematurely' they are losing income from taxes and stuff but they can't say that.

That's exactly what they said but they just used different words to make it seem less horrible.

 

[Worthless_nobody]

That's all we are to the government and society is money and numbers. There are plenty of things that could be done to help us but they really don't care. As long as we are being "productive".....

 

[Quax]

In our so called modern world only money counts.... the individual, the human being isn't worth the dirt under the fingernails of the ruling elite.... in their eyes we have two duties....consuming and paying taxes... it's modern slavery.

 

[imstillhungry]

It's pretty fucked they think the 'cost' of a suicide is lost taxes and that bullshit. The cost of a suicide is the loss of a life, and the suffering of a family. Society is so fucked up

 

[dedalus1238900]

It done with actuaries who based on many ideas,. Not in just death but workplace injury lawsuits, the company didn't have proper safety measures you lose a hand by a saw; the jury or there might be fixed amounts will award you a specific amount of money your hand was worth. This is sadly the entire job of pensions and life insurance. They essentially calculate when you most likely will die. Then figure out how much of a premium to charge you investing your premiums inn stocks, bons etc. and their goal is to make more money investing and time value of money from your premiums than what they payout when you die making a profit.

 

[Final Escape]

I hope mine is more expensive than average in that case lol!

When suicide is so expensive, why don't they, I don't know, just help us? Maybe instead of paying 1,3kk the government should pay 1,3k for a therapy? It's really ridiculous.

Lol! Right, wouldn't it be cheaper to help people if it costs that much when they die prematurely or at any time they are potentially productive.

 

[Thisisjustadream]

How in the fuck does it cost a million$ for me to blow my brains out?

 

[Worndown]

This planet has too many people compared to jobs.
Death just frees up a position and potentially removes someone from the unemployment roll.

 

[Final Escape]

That's a bunch of sensationalist crap honestly. Maybe total cost per year collectively. But no way it's per person. Even with a loss of tax revenue I still can't see it.

There's no way lol! Something is being left out of this statistic.

 

[Quax]

They don't help us because they do a simple estimation... they assume that most of the suicidal beings won't ever be productive again.... so following their Ideology it makes no sense to invest into those. That means minimizing their loss... simple as that, it is.

 

[BlueWidow]

seems pretty messed up to even include that statistic as part of a suicide prevntn doc-getting the daughter of the guy to narrate that fact!-like- dont kill yrself-the government will lose money- oh ok then-ive suddenly decided i should live after all!-id hate for soceity to have to incur such charges. Surely long term chronically depressed people must cost 'soceity' more anyways...

I was thinking the same thing. Why does every single thing have to come down to money in our society? >eye roll<

 

[EndItQuickly]

Most (97%) of that loss is 'lost productivity'

Costs of Suicide | Suicide Prevention Resource Center

www.sprc.org

Original article:
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/sltb.12225

"Loss of productivity"

Damn just another example why I want to leave this world

 

[Fragile]

so this is all we are worth in their minds, only numbers and little money signs with no right to take them away from the value of the country.

this is sickening.

 

[LegaliseIt!]

lol ! If I showed up at Statistics Canada HQ, and said," I want to contribute x$ to defray the cost of my suicide. Can I work here for x number of hours?", my mad, wrinkly old ass would be in handcuffs before you could say,"Gross! Domestic Product"

 

[DoNotLet2]

The most funny thing (for those who like black humor) is the fact that money isn't actually a thing. It's just an intermediary (I guess this is the word). It has to make exchanges easier. Money doesn't exist. It is just a number "I've worked that much so I deserve things worth that much".