Help Lethal heroin injection to CTB?

[iOnceFeltAlive]

So I've been looking into using a lethal injection of heroin to CTB and I found a lot of useful information on the mega thread about it. I am currently registered on the empire market which I heard is pretty reliable. However I'm still not sure which vendors are legit, which vendors ship to the US and how much is a normal/realistic price per gram? I am trying to buy 2 grams to make sure I have enough. And does it have to be a certain type of heroin that is water soluble? Please pm me or reply to this thread if anyone knows more about this. Thank you in advance!

 

[autumnal]

So I've been looking into using a lethal injection of heroin to CTB and I found a lot of useful information on the mega thread about it. I am currently registered on the empire market which I heard is pretty reliable. However I'm still not sure which vendors are legit, which vendors ship to the US and how much is a normal/realistic price per gram? I am trying to buy 2 grams to make sure I have enough. And does it have to be a certain type of heroin that is water soluble? Please pm me or reply to this thread if anyone knows more about this. Thank you in advance!

Heroin isn't my area, but I can highly recommend this guide as a comprehensive introduction to preparation and injection technique:

• Getting Off Right Safety Manual [PDF]

 

[NoSuprises]

You can search by origin country to make sure you're only seeing domestic orders within the US, you can also search by vendor reliability rating. fF you are injecting then yes, it needs to be water-soluble.

 

[Cherrypea]

I've just posted asking the best drug to OD with and also use empire. Was wondering about ketamine so no actual advice. Am in UK but I find the vendors pretty reliable. You can look / ask on Dread for advice?

 

[Rocket1Rocket1]

Do you have experience with IV? If not you need to practice with saline first.

 

[JellyDreams]

Ive been looking at this too but even with H the need to get a vein withiut a lot of practice is very hard

Can you OD with snorting?

I read a member here did and some news 2 guys died in amsterdam snorting white heroin

 

[Rocket1Rocket1]

Can you OD with snorting?

I read a member here did and some news 2 guys died in amsterdam snorting white heroin

Don't depend on it. It is really unreliable to OD on snorting. They were (un)lucky? Also you don't know the circumstances. Did they use other substances like benzos or alcohol?

You probably will be floating away on a cloud of opiate high before you OD by snorting or injecting.

Plugging (up the bum) might be an option. Remember that 2/3's is being converted to morphine.

Spoiler: More info on plugging

Guide to "Per Rectal" Administration of Opiates (also known as Boofing or Plugging) [NSFW] -

Spoiler: More info on plugging 2

https://drugs-forum.com/threads/plugging-heroin-better-then-snorting.194701/

 

[Cherrypea]

I've taken blood from myself, it's not hard to find a vein. Although I am a nurse so have practiced on others I suppose.

 

[JellyDreams]

Don't depend on it. It is really unreliable to OD on snorting. They were (un)lucky? Also you don't know the circumstances. Did they use other substances like benzos or alcohol?

You probably will be floating away on a cloud of opiate high before you OD by snorting or injecting.

Plugging (up the bum) might be an option. Remember that 2/3's is being converted to morphine so you keep that in mind when you do the maths.

Spoiler: More info on plugging

Guide to "Per Rectal" Administration of Opiates (also known as Boofing or Plugging) [NSFW] -

Spoiler: More info on plugging 2

https://drugs-forum.com/threads/plugging-heroin-better-then-snorting.194701/

Plugging was my original plan , how much H would I need?

Can you really od with plugging? What about IM is that better or worse?

 

[Rocket1Rocket1]

Plugging was my original plan , how much H would I need?

Can you really od with plugging?

You can OD on plugging for sure.

From what I know know LD50 for heroin ranged between 30-60 mg/kg. This may vary depending on tolerance and use of other substances. Most/all H you buy on the street is cut and the percentages of H vary between 0 and 100%. You don't know what you are getting. More reliable sellers with higher purity's can be found on the DN. You should do your own research on this since I'm not a specialist on this matter.

I've taken blood from myself, it's not hard to find a vein. Although I am a nurse so have practiced on others I suppose.

I'm kinda jealous but even if I could IV I would go with plugging. Overcoming SI with a needle in my arm would be so hard for me. Of course this is personal.

 

[JellyDreams]

You can OD on plugging for sure.

From what I know know LD50 for heroin ranged between 30-60 mg/kg. This may vary depending on tolerance and use of other substances. Most/all H you buy on the street is cut and the percentages of H vary between 0 and 100%. You don't know what you are getting. More reliable sellers with higher purity's can be found on the DN. You should do your own research on this since I'm not a specialist on this matter.



I'm kinda jealous but even if I could IV I would go with plugging. Overcoming SI with a needle in my arm would be so hard for me. Of course this is personal.

I been looking for ODs with plugging and found nothing , maybe because its an underused method? Are you sure?

What about IM? I can do.that , is it better or worse?

 

[Rocket1Rocket1]

been looking for ODs with plugging and found nothing , maybe because its an underused method? Are you sure?

I'm sure. 2/3's is converted to morphine so 10 mg plugging equals to 3mg pure H. There is little info on it because it isn't a widely used method. Maybe because of the taboo? I don't know tbh. Fact is people get high this way. The info you do need is available tho. I suggest looking into the spoiler links I posted earlier and using the search function on this website. There is some info on it.


Intramuscular could work theoretically but I don't have knowledge about this to inform you.


Btw we are going off topic here. The topic starter had a question about IV and questions about the DN.

 

[NoSuprises]

From what I know LD50 for heroin ranged between 30-60 mg/kg.

So at 75kg I'd need over 4.5 grams of pure heroin in order to ensure that I successfully died from an overdose? That seems like an incredibly large amount.

 

[Rocket1Rocket1]

So at 75kg I'd need over 4.5 grams of pure heroin in order to ensure that I successfully died from an overdose? That seems like an incredibly large amount.

This is if you go with the plugging method. I wasn't clear about that. 2/3's is converted to morphine. That leaves you with 750/1500 mg that is being absorbed as H if you are 75 kg and plug it.

 

[iOnceFeltAlive]

Thanks for all the replies but no one really answered my other question about how much should it cost? On empire market there's a huge window in price between vendors.

 

[NoSuprises]

This is if you go with the plugging method. I wasn't clear about that. 2/3's is converted to morphine. That leaves you with 750/1500 mg that is being absorbed as H if you are 75 kg and plug it.

Ah apologies, I didn't realise that you were talking about specifically about plugging.

Thanks for all the replies but no one really answered my other question about how much should it cost? On empire market there's a huge window in price between vendors.

It will depend on the type of heroin and quality. There isn't really a single answer. Just filter by the most reliable vendors with a high number of sales and go from there,.

 

[Kotochan]

injecting isn't all that difficult, but maybe my veins are just easy.

 

[Aap]

The conversion is a bit more complicated, as morphine (and consequently Heroin) has some strange properties depending on taken IV, orally once, orally over several days, etc. you are correct that generally 2/3 of anything plugged will go through the hepatic circulation (and why around 2/3 or plugged heroin is converted to morphine).

the LD50 or heroin is likely MUCH lower than reported, but LD50 values in humans are sometimes impossible to determine. LDlo values are sometimes all that can be found. There is obviously HUGE variability due to tol3rance development. It is almost a moot point, as obtaining pure heroin is nigh impossible, save for diversion from U.K. hospitals. Anything acquired on the secondary market is of unknown purity.

in the US, where heroin is not used medically, IV morphine was once used alone for cardiothoracic surgery. for most patients, 2-3mg/kg was sufficient to allow for surgical anesthesia (and subsequently required mechanical ventilation).

 

[iOnceFeltAlive]

Does anyone know if it's possible to shoot into a vein in your hand? That seems like the most visible vein for me. Or any vein really?

 

[Aap]

If you are asking this, the probability of complications is high.

 

[Cherrypea]

You can inject into your hand but the veins are generally smaller more fragile. Also it's more painful.

Does anyone know if it's possible to shoot into a vein in your hand? That seems like the most visible vein for me. Or any vein really?