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Butterflyfree

Butterflyfree

Student
Oct 10, 2021
189
The time of the Elves is over. The ship is leaving the shore soon and I've got my ticket. I'm suffering so badly. The waiting is agony. I live alone, I have a dog and a cat and they are my absolute everything, I could not bear to leave them behind as they are older and have health issues they have been with me since their birth. I have no family and no one I could trust to leave them with. They would suffer being separated from each other and from me so I bought them tickets on the ship too. They will be boarding the same day as me. They will go first, then me a few hours later. I don't think it can get any better then that and it's my last gift to them for all they have given me. I am struggling badly and it's so hard to cope.
 
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FuneralCry

FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
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I'm sorry you are suffering so much. I understand it is hard to carry on when you cannot take anymore. I hope you find the peace you are looking for.
 
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Makko

Makko

Iä!
Jan 17, 2021
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You're fortunate that you've decided on how to handle the pet question. People often seem to get stuck on that.
 
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avoid_slow_death

avoid_slow_death

Ready to embrace the peaceful bliss of the void.
Feb 4, 2020
1,356
I'm so very sorry to hear you have to do this. Had a friend in a very similar situation several years back, so this hits home close.
 
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Crazy4u

Crazy4u

Enlightened
Sep 29, 2021
1,318
I'm so sorry you are suffering so much. I live alone too and I have a dog so I understand the struggle. I hope you all meet on the other side :heart:
 
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FTL.Wanderer

FTL.Wanderer

Enlightened
May 31, 2018
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I am struggling badly and it's so hard to cope.
Yours was a very difficult post to read. From one struggler to another, I hope you and your companions find a peaceful, painless way forward.
 
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Butterflyfree

Butterflyfree

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Oct 10, 2021
189
Maybe you have some words of
I'm so very sorry to hear you have to do this. Had a friend in a very similar situation several years back, so this h

I'm so very sorry to hear you have to do this. Had a friend in a very similar situation several years back, so this hits home close.
@avoid_slow_death Thank you. Maybe you have some words of comfort or wisdom on how I can get through this and cope better? I know it has to be done I just don't know how I'm going to get through it.
 
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hlynn95

hlynn95

Anxious Loner
Oct 2, 2021
44
Don't kill the poor animals! That's cruel! Leave them with family or bring em to a shelter :'(
 
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lifeisbutadream

Elementalist
Oct 4, 2018
809
Don't kill the poor animals! That's cruel! Leave them with family or bring em to a shelter :'(


He or she told the reason. This way they will all arrive in Heaven at the same time!
 
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Quiet Desperation

Lonely wanderer
Dec 7, 2020
204
Have you considered what killing your pets will do to you at a time when you will already be highly emotional, or if your own attempt fails?

I suggest at least thinking about a no fault surrender at a shelter or rescue. Worst case they would have a guaranteed peaceful exit by a professional without you having to put yourself and them through that. If your plans fall through that surrender could also possibly be reversed. If you don't like that, some rescue organizations have pet retirement homes that will guarantee a home for elderly or sick pets until their death for a fee.

I post this only because the fallout of an aborted attempt ruined my life and I would hate to see someone else suffer similarly. I wish you peace whatever you decide.
 
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toforigivelife

Arcanist
Jul 5, 2021
493
Don't kill the poor animals! That's cruel! Leave them with family or bring em to a shelter :'(
Have you considered what killing your pets will do to you at a time when you will already be highly emotional, or if your own attempt fails?

I suggest at least thinking about a no fault surrender at a shelter or rescue. Worst case they would have a guaranteed peaceful exit by a professional without you having to put yourself and them through that. If your plans fall through that surrender could also possibly be reversed. If you don't like that, some rescue organizations have pet retirement homes that will guarantee a home for elderly or sick pets until their death for a fee.

I post this only because the fallout of an aborted attempt ruined my life and I would hate to see someone else suffer similarly. I wish you peace whatever you decide.
Everyone has a choice as far as what they will do with their pets whether that person is has a physical illness that is going to result in death or whether they have made the decision to end their own lives.

Yes, bringing them to a shelter may provide them with a chance to have another home but a lot of animals, especially older ones, can languish for a long time while waiting to be adopted.

Butterflyfree has already stated that their cat and dog have lived the majority of their lives, have health issues and that separating them would traumatize them.

Being older animals who have lived together for so long and then being sent to shelter? That would be taking them from heaven and putting them in hell.

Butterflyfree is overwhelmed and having a difficult and very painful time coping, they've done the best they can for the pets whom they love and have made humane arrangements for a quick and peaceful ending.

Sometimes pets get the best they can get and the most of what they can get before life and circumstances interfere.

Kind of similar to living a human life.

There are people who cannot imagine putting their pets but sometimes circumstances call for and we could make the argument that putting pets in a shelter is a way of easing a person's own guilt because they don't want to deal with the challenge of doing the kinder, more humane thing.

Under these conditions I would also opt to have my pets sent over to the other side rather than worry about how long they would have to stay in scary, unfamiliar environment and wondering if the whoever adopts them would offer the same love and understanding that I did.

Butterflyfree, I'm sorry that your pain has brought you to this place. You do what you feel in your heart is the right thing to do.

I hope you are at peace with whatever decision you have made for yourself and I wish you peace and blessings.
 
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Quiet Desperation

Lonely wanderer
Dec 7, 2020
204
(attacking people who disagree)
You're free to have whatever opinion you want about murdering innocent animals, as is the OP. We're free to disagree and offer some thoughts about what that might actually do to someone who is already suffering.

If you don't like hearing that people disagree with you, bummer. Don't bother responding with more unpleasantness, I already ignored you.
 
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ChobaniFlipSmores

ChobaniFlipSmores

Hakuna matata?
Jul 28, 2021
174
Under these conditions I would also opt to have my pets sent over to the other side rather than worry about how long they would have to stay in scary, unfamiliar environment and wondering if the whoever adopts them would offer the same love and understanding that I did.
In my case I have a 12 year old dog that I asked a friend to take care of for me with the story that I can't take care of her (I had a sports injury and haven't been able to stand or walk for a few months) and they said that they could take care of her for as long as needed. They have been basically a second parent for her since she was a puppy. With that in mind my personal situation is different than OP's where it seems like there isn't an easy out.

That being said I'm struggling to understand the ethics behind killing your pets because leaving them in this world might put them in a situation where they are unhappy. Is this any different than a parent who has children, or maybe adult children who are unable to take care of themselves, who decides to kill them before committing suicide? If SS is fundamentally being pro choice, my feeling is that the choice aspect is about "your own choice to do with YOUR life." By killing another life you are taking away their ability to make a choice to continue living. Maybe my argument fails since you can't really ask a pet if they want to live or not, but how often is it that pets decide to stop living and commit suicide or give up on life (honest question, maybe it happens. I don't happen to know.).
 
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Butterflyfree

Butterflyfree

Student
Oct 10, 2021
189
Everyone has a choice as far as what they will do with their pets whether that person is has a physical illness that is going to result in death or whether they have made the decision to end their own lives.

Yes, bringing them to a shelter may provide them with a chance to have another home but a lot of animals, especially older ones, can languish for a long time while waiting to be adopted.

Butterflyfree has already stated that their cat and dog have lived the majority of their lives, have health issues and that separating them would traumatize them.

Being older animals who have lived together for so long and then being sent to shelter? That would be taking them from heaven and putting them in hell.

Butterflyfree is overwhelmed and having a difficult and very painful time coping, they've done the best they can for the pets whom they love and have made humane arrangements for a quick and peaceful ending.

Sometimes pets get the best they can get and the most of what they can get before life and circumstances interfere.

Kind of similar to living a human life.

There are people who cannot imagine putting their pets but sometimes circumstances call for and we could make the argument that putting pets in a shelter is a way of easing a person's own guilt because they don't want to deal with the challenge of doing the kinder, more humane thing.

Under these conditions I would also opt to have my pets sent over to the other side rather than worry about how long they would have to stay in scary, unfamiliar environment and wondering if the whoever adopts them would offer the same love and understanding that I did.

Butterflyfree, I'm sorry that your pain has brought you to this place. You do what you feel in your heart is the right thing to do.

I hope you are at peace with whatever decision you have made for yourself and I wish you peace and blessings.
@toforgivelife Thank you so much for your kind beautiful and true words.
In my case I have a 12 year old dog that I asked a friend to take care of for me with the story that I can't take care of her (I had a sports injury and haven't been able to stand or walk for a few months) and they said that they could take care of her for as long as needed. They have been basically a second parent for her since she was a puppy. With that in mind my personal situation is different than OP's where it seems like there isn't an easy out.

That being said I'm struggling to understand the ethics behind killing your pets because leaving them in this world might put them in a situation where they are unhappy. Is this any different than a parent who has children, or maybe adult children who are unable to take care of themselves, who decides to kill them before committing suicide? If SS is fundamentally being pro choice, my feeling is that the choice aspect is about "your own choice to do with YOUR life." By killing another life you are taking away their ability to make a choice to continue living. Maybe my argument fails since you can't really ask a pet if they want to live or not, but how often is it that pets decide to stop living and commit suicide or give up on life (honest question, maybe it happens. I don't happen to know.).
@ChobaniFlipSmores I don't have any friends or family that could take care of them and keep them together. They would suffer and I am doing my best to protect them from that. I know them best. I know if they could speak they would tell me it's what they want. They would never want to be separated from me or from each other.
 
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toforigivelife

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Jul 5, 2021
493
@toforgivelife Thank you so much for your kind beautiful and true words.

@ChobaniFlipSmores I don't have any friends or family that could take care of them and keep them together. They would suffer and I am doing my best to protect them from that. I know them best. I know if they could speak they would tell me it's what they want. They would never want to be separated from me or from each other.
This is not an easy issue for you.

And I'm sure if you had friends you could trust and looked upon your cat and dog as if they were their own pets then the two of them would have a new home.

You're dealing with your circumstances and you have two senior pets who were able to enjoy the majority of their years being cared for by someone who loved them and treated them with love and kindness.

I wish we could say that for all of the pets out there.

You have nothing to be ashamed of or feel badly about. Please don't let people compare themselves to you, everyone's situation is different, or shame or guilt you.

Wishing you the best Butterflyfree. I truly am.
 
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A_miStake_of_NATURE

A_miStake_of_NATURE

I wish no one had to CTB..........
Aug 14, 2020
703
I'm not supporting killing the animals in any way. It's none of my business. But to me it's the same as having kids. We decide to bring children into this world, the same we we decide to make certain animals our pets. We're responsible for them. Not every action must be supported.
But like I said, none of my business.
Deciding for them that killing them is what's best for them is something else. I don't care what people here is gonna think of me. It's cruel, whatever your situation is
 
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Butterflyfree

Butterflyfree

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Oct 10, 2021
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Everyone has a choice as far as what they will do with their pets whether that person is has a physical illness that is going to result in death or whether they have made the decision to end their own lives.

Yes, bringing them to a shelter may provide them with a chance to have another home but a lot of animals, especially older ones, can languish for a long time while waiting to be adopted.

Butterflyfree has already stated that their cat and dog have lived the majority of their lives, have health issues and that separating them would traumatize them.

Being older animals who have lived together for so long and then being sent to shelter? That would be taking them from heaven and putting them in hell.

Butterflyfree is overwhelmed and having a difficult and very painful time coping, they've done the best they can for the pets whom they love and have made humane arrangements for a quick and peaceful ending.

Sometimes pets get the best they can get and the most of what they can get before life and circumstances interfere.

Kind of similar to living a human life.

There are people who cannot imagine putting their pets but sometimes circumstances call for and we could make the argument that putting pets in a shelter is a way of easing a person's own guilt because they don't want to deal with the challenge of doing the kinder, more humane thing.

Under these conditions I would also opt to have my pets sent over to the other side rather than worry about how long they would have to stay in scary, unfamiliar environment and wondering if the whoever adopts them would offer the same love and understanding that I did.

Butterflyfree, I'm sorry that your pain has brought you to this place. You do what you feel in your heart is the right thing to do.

I hope you are at peace with whatever decision you have made for yourself and I wish you peace and blessings.
@Quiet Desperation It is agony the blackest darkest pit of hell I've ever been in.
 
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toforigivelife

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Jul 5, 2021
493
@Quiet Desperation It is agony the blackest darkest pit of hell I've ever been in.
Oh, I'm so sorry my friend. So very sorry.

You keep making the choices that are right for you. I don't mean this as a put down or in a negative, just in a truthful way, you are legitimately unwell.

I'm sorry it has come to this for you and if I could I'd make everything better.

But I absolutely respect your desire and your right to end your suffering.

As I said, I wish you peace and blessings in whatever choice you make. If you decide to transition I wish you a safe journey and hope you find the love and the healing that you need and deserve.
 
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Butterflyfree

Butterflyfree

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Please, anyone feel free to private message me. Thank you.
 

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